Wyldsong

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I'll be picking this one up tomorrow.

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@ssj_god: The speed is honestly a big gap, as is the durability. It just really depends on if her strikes can do enough damage to take him down before she wears herself out, giving him the chance to do something.

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@ratava: I still agree that it is impressive, but I still have no clue what strength level to classify that at=)

Personally, I am not debating against anyone in this thread, I was just here dropping intel on Cage to try and answer a question or two=)

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@ssj_god said:

@wyldsong:

well .. pierpat posted a scan of her punch above

It looks impressive, but I really don't what strength level to classify that at=)

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#5  Edited By Wyldsong

@sophia89: I'll stay on, but just remove my name from Spider-Man and Scarlet Spider. You can add me for Spider-Girl (May "Mayday" Parker from MC2 continuity).

Under Dark Horse, you can add me for Ghost. Image, put me down for Savage Dragon and Pitt. Under Other Publishers you can add me to:

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And I will add others as I think of them, but that should be enough for now. Thank you kindly.

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#6  Edited By Wyldsong
@nyas said:

@wolverine08: Thanks :D

I'm trying to provide the feats so we can debate this rationally.

And I agree that was a very nicely laid out post, and I got some good answers to the questions I had. Thank you for taking the time to show some scans, and give me something to differentiate the actual source material from the anime showings that everyone else is posting.

For the chi blocking, I am really torn on what to say. Since we are talking as chi equaling chakra, then Danny's personal chi, there is no arguing it being affected. The Shou Lao chi though is something from an external source, has been taken away and reabsorbed, so I personally wouldn't be sold on it being blocked, and not even flowing like normal chi. Not to mention, Danny can absorb chi and various energies, so any chi projection on Neji's part might be detrimental. As well, with Danny's showings of punching aside magic attacks, so forth and so on as shown and discussed earlier (not to mention the protection from explosive forces it offers), I see no reason why he couldn't deal with larger attacks.

Not sure if I posted it, but remember that Danny has enhanced senses, as shown when he heard girl sweat:

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This can also bee seen with dodging automatic gunfire from multiple angles, and dodging Sue Richards invisible staff by sensing the air currents it made, so forth and so on. As well, considering how fast an average bullet travels, and the fact that they are harder to dodge the closer you are, and Danny has dodged automatic gunfire from multiple shooters at multiple angles at close ranges, and done so fairly casually, I haven't seen where speed is too much of an issue.

I think at this point, based on what I have seen, and what I know, I am just going to go with @jashro44s assessment from earlier, and call it a day:

I can see either character winning. Iron fist is fast enough to catch sniper bullets while poisoned, has shown micro second reaction speed before, dodged a pistol after it was fired at basically point blank, etc. Neji was fast enough to keep up with KN0 Naruto (all though he isn't as fast considering Naruto did vanish in front of him at one point IIRC). I am not quite sure if Naruto was fighting him the same way he was fighting sasuke though (I find it weird he'd blitz sasuke but Neji could keep up), all though that could be because Naruto was enraged when he fought sasuke....I mean he was angry in his fight with Neji but not in the same way and not as much IMO. He did also beat Lee who could open the primary Lotus as well though which is also impressive.

I think Danny can counter Neji's rotation by punching the ground underneath him which would cause Neji to trip up. Danny's area of affect is very powerful (sinking helicarriers, blowing up trains, destroying temples,etc). However the OP has said chi and chakra are the same thing so if Neji can connect with a chakra point attack Iron Fist would lose his counter and all Neji has to do is spam the rotation technique and he'd win. However hitting chakra points is the same thing as hitting pressure points which aren't easy to do in combat when you're fighting someone who can match your speed and is probably as skilled (I kind of feel like Danny is more skilled but thats hard to say for sure..Neji was trained by Guy and he does have some good technical showings).

I am leaning more towards Danny at the moment.

Thanks for the breakdowns, and the intel. You have been exceedingly informative.

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@homicidalmaniac said:

@wyldsong said:

Team 2 for an exceedingly slim majority after a long drawn out battle.

Peter go *pew *pew with his webs and team 1 wins ;).

Lol, I wish I could agree my friend, but Danny's chi can handle a web spam if it can bust up a helicarrier and take out a train=)

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@jashro44: That was about what I was thinking from discussions I have seen. Blanket chi restriction on Danny just limits him far too much, and her speed feats are just too much for him to deal with without chi from what I have seen.

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@cosmicallyaware1: Sorry bro, been off the site for a few days. Looks like you got things up and running though=)

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@reaverlation: No problem. That is one of the flaws of Danny's use on many battle threads, is that people like to restrict his chi use against superhuman opponents. If anything is restricted for the sake of killing "one shot" arguments, then it needs to be his Shou Lao chi, not his chi altogether.