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Depends on how you feel Thing matches up to Badrock, who held a Powerplex down that was amped to the level to potentially kill Mark...and he did it with one hand commenting Powerplex's attacks barely tickled:

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@kaijuking: Just a heads-up, info dump coming your way in a day or so on this=)

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@kaijuking: I will try to remember to revisit this topic in a few days, and while I'm not saying Dragon would win...he has rocked, drawn blood from, and gone toe to toe with foes that could be equated to Supreme levels.

The evil Invincible fight was off panel, all we see was Dragon was one of the few left standing, and there is little else to go off of there. To be fair to Dragon my friend, an off panel fight in a book that is not his own, isn't a really good measuring stick for a fight between him and Mark=)

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Sorry for any typos,.the vine is being buggy, making it hard to go back and fix...

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@destinyman75: =)

This really depends on Mean Supreme's era. During the OG Liefeld era, this is where he had the showing against Gladiator, in a pretty even battle, and Glad's feigned death to finally end the fight. Supreme at this point is roughly on par physically with Glad's at full confidence, and is essentially a combo of Superman and Hunter-Prey Doomsday with his ability to adapt his powers on the fly in mid combat. This era is probably the closest fight for Surfer, and one he can take as long as he isn't doing the CIS bit, which he is famous for. Still, with Supreme's adaptive powers, he could feasibly take this as well. So, I am at about 50/50. As a head's up, Supreme at this era could time travel.

Now, there is the Moore Era of Supreme, but I will leave this version be, since the pictured is Mean Supreme, but Larsen's work ties Mean Supreme to that of the Moore Era. Mean Supreme temporarily takes the title as the most powerful Supreme after being released from imprisonment by the other Supreme's (there are many). This puts him in the ranges of Silver Age Supes and so on, so he is pretty freaking powerful. He beats down Suprema, who did things like lift the weight of the universe temporarily and more. Couple insane physicals with adaptive powers, including energy absorption to further amp his powers...I edge in favor of Mean Supreme.

Now, in the Larsen era, there was a reality revision, which Mean Supreme was caught in, and his powers were reduced to that of Invincible character power levels. That said, he eventually moves up to roughly solo planet buster after absorbing a ton of energy attacks. This one, as long as Surfer doesn't fall for the CIS bit and give him time to adapt and amp up, he could feasibly take fairly easily.

Finally, there is a little known final version of Supreme. Sally aka Suprema aka Moore Supreme's sister, actually takes on the mantle of Supreme after Supreme's death in Supreme Blue Rose. She honestly had a very limited run before Liefeld lost the rights to Youngblood and Supreme in a BS legal issue. Last we saw, she was able to tank a star going nova point blank (sitting in the star had no effect on her beforehand), though it did knock her out for a bit, and she had the speed to embarrass speedsters capable of vibrating through walls and so on. She wasn't at the levels she was in during the OG Moore run, but was somewhere above the Invincible levels they were all changed to after the reality revision. Really, without more of a run, she is a bit lacking for feats in this power range...and she isn't the Supreme being discussed, so I will just leave it be=)

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@destinyman75: Image version hung with Spawn and Glory...so possibly. As for Marvel, I really don't know enough to say=)

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I dont know why but this match has potential. Blackheart for now. Where is @wyldsong when you need him lol.

Well...I am running through a backlog of tags...but we can discuss=)

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@thevoidofdeath: Lol...30 days late, but thanks for the mention my friend=)