willpayton

This user has not updated recently.

22502 0 4 144
Forum Posts Wiki Points Following Followers

willpayton's forum posts

Avatar image for willpayton
willpayton

22502

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

144

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

Avatar image for willpayton
willpayton

22502

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

144

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

Superman and Doomsday stomp. Mismatch. Hulk is vastly out of his league and Thor is too slow to do much against either Superman or DD.

This should be locked for spite.

Avatar image for willpayton
willpayton

22502

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

144

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

@willpayton: @cyborgzod: What feats does Powergirl or Supergirl have to prove they're on Hulk's level? He is never at a lower strength level then them. Hulk's durability blows Supergirl and Powergirl's durability out of the water. Everything you have stated is nothing Hulk hasn't countered before. Having a thread were a bunch of Hulk haters claim Powergirl can beat him doesn't mean anything. Both of you lack proper knowledge of Hulk.

Lets take Supergirl. Her superspeed is at the level of Superman, who is at a proven nanosecond (at least) reaction/combat speed level. That means that he can react to things moving at or faster than the speed of light. So as far as combat speed, she makes him look like a statue.

Strength: comparable to Superman, who is capable of pulling the Earth

Durability... Supergirl has easily destroyed a moon by flying at near the speed of light. It didnt know her out, didnt hurt her, she just tanked the hit and destroyed the moon like it was nothing.

No Caption Provided
No Caption Provided

Avatar image for willpayton
willpayton

22502

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

144

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

It was requested that I post this scan here, so here it is. @grandwonder

No Caption Provided

Avatar image for willpayton
willpayton

22502

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

144

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

@20damon said:

@willpayton: I'm just going to ask straight out. What is the matter with you? Are you so incredibly upset that a fictional character that you support of a forum full of nerds like you and me, might lose to the strongest version of one of the strongest non-entity characters in any comic that you're going to spew out threads that have nothing to do with the debate at hand? I don't CARE about the other threads, i haven't debated in there and haven't even looked. I don't CARE if Hulk loses to someone. I debate when i believe i am right. I've been shown to be wrong about fights, including Hulk fights, by scans, feats and LOGIC, not insane PIS calling on every feat. That's desperation, not debate. I've got NO problems with any character i like losing a battle because that's how they're written and if they were omnipotent and invincible, they wouldn't be fun.

You should seriously take a look at what you're doing here and how you look while doing it if you want anyone to take you seriously. I don't debate for a character unless i BELIEVE i am right. You argued that 1 superman would defeat 10 Worldbreakers. That's so unrealistic that you actually got LAUGHED at and thread got locked.. AGAIN, because it was a gross mismatch. You should take a look in the mirror and ask yourself why you debate here, is it because you want to know the limits if the characters you support and like, or because you must ensure that they not take a loss?

Anyways, i refuse to waste more time on you.

Your problem is that you cant see past your own bias. And, right here you cant even be bothered to check on your own accusations before you make them. Actually, for your information, I never either made a thread or claimed that 1 Superman could defeat 10 World-Breaker Hulks. The thread you're talking about is 1 Superman vs 10 Savage Hulks... big, big difference:

http://www.comicvine.com/forums/battles-7/1-vs-10-superman-vs-hulk-1710144/

Now maybe the truth is not important to you, in which case continue "not wasting time on me"... which is fine with me. But, if you're going to respond to this you can begin with an apology.

Avatar image for willpayton
willpayton

22502

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

144

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

@20damon said:

@willpayton: Why are you bringing up threads for different characters?

I'm giving you a chance to prove that you mean what you say. That's all. =) Or, do you only believe it when it goes your way?

Avatar image for willpayton
willpayton

22502

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

144

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

@20damon said:
@willpayton said:
@20damon said:

@termiteone4ever: @grandwonder: @willpayton: Sorry buds, I've already countered all your points. Count the votes, they say everything that is needed to say ;)

I will grant you this... of all the Hulks, WB Hulk is the one that can give Wonder Woman a good fight. Usually I think he loses badly against people like Kryptonians because of his general lack of versatility and speed, but at least this version has excellent energy projection. I think that's where the argument is to be made that he can beat WW... in his gamma energy bursts. It's just that he still suffers from a lack of speed. Yeah, I know and granted many times that he's faster than people think and fast by the standards of street levelers, but you also have to understand that people like Wonder Woman and Superman make top-tier street levelers look like statues when they're using their superspeed.

I mean, imagine you're fighting someone who's 2x as fast as you. That'd be a tough fight right? Now imagine that person is 10x as fast as you. You'd lose badly, no matter how strong you are, right? Now, imagine they're 100x as fast. You're a statue! You stand no chance, at all. That's what we're talking about here... only probably more like WW being anywhere from 1,000x to 100,000x as fast as Hulk.

Scans have been presented regarding speed, overwhelming power and all. Votes are based on evidence presented unless the opposing debaters present evidence for people to change their minds. The votes are in and they are an overwhelming majority in Hulk's favor. ;)

Here's the Power Girl vs Hulk thread:

http://www.comicvine.com/forums/battles-7/power-girl-vs-hulk-649720/

I'll look forward to you posting there admitting that Hulk loses to Power Girl. I mean, the votes are in and they are overwhelming majority in Power Girl's favor, yes?

And while you're at it:

http://www.comicvine.com/forums/battles-7/hulk-vs-supergirl-606003/

Avatar image for willpayton
willpayton

22502

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

144

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

@20damon said:
@willpayton said:
@20damon said:

@termiteone4ever: @grandwonder: @willpayton: Sorry buds, I've already countered all your points. Count the votes, they say everything that is needed to say ;)

I will grant you this... of all the Hulks, WB Hulk is the one that can give Wonder Woman a good fight. Usually I think he loses badly against people like Kryptonians because of his general lack of versatility and speed, but at least this version has excellent energy projection. I think that's where the argument is to be made that he can beat WW... in his gamma energy bursts. It's just that he still suffers from a lack of speed. Yeah, I know and granted many times that he's faster than people think and fast by the standards of street levelers, but you also have to understand that people like Wonder Woman and Superman make top-tier street levelers look like statues when they're using their superspeed.

I mean, imagine you're fighting someone who's 2x as fast as you. That'd be a tough fight right? Now imagine that person is 10x as fast as you. You'd lose badly, no matter how strong you are, right? Now, imagine they're 100x as fast. You're a statue! You stand no chance, at all. That's what we're talking about here... only probably more like WW being anywhere from 1,000x to 100,000x as fast as Hulk.

Scans have been presented regarding speed, overwhelming power and all. Votes are based on evidence presented unless the opposing debaters present evidence for people to change their minds. The votes are in and they are an overwhelming majority in Hulk's favor. ;)

And the votes are in for WW vs Savage Hulk and Hulk lost badly. Similarly votes are in for Power Girl vs Hulk and again Hulk lost badly. Same thing for Supergirl vs Hulk. In fact, any version always loses badly including WWHulk.

The problem is you Hulk fans refuse to acknowledge this and always say he wins, even when he obviously doesnt. This is just the truth.

Avatar image for willpayton
willpayton

22502

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

144

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#9  Edited By willpayton

@20damon said:

@termiteone4ever: @grandwonder: @willpayton: Sorry buds, I've already countered all your points. Count the votes, they say everything that is needed to say ;)

I will grant you this... of all the Hulks, WB Hulk is the one that can give Wonder Woman a good fight. Usually I think he loses badly against people like Kryptonians because of his general lack of versatility and speed, but at least this version has excellent energy projection. I think that's where the argument is to be made that he can beat WW... in his gamma energy bursts. It's just that he still suffers from a lack of speed. Yeah, I know and granted many times that he's faster than people think and fast by the standards of street levelers, but you also have to understand that people like Wonder Woman and Superman make top-tier street levelers look like statues when they're using their superspeed.

I mean, imagine you're fighting someone who's 2x as fast as you. That'd be a tough fight right? Now imagine that person is 10x as fast as you. You'd lose badly, no matter how strong you are, right? Now, imagine they're 100x as fast. You're a statue! You stand no chance, at all. That's what we're talking about here... only probably more like WW being anywhere from 1,000x to 100,000x as fast as Hulk. Then you give her a weapon that's capable of instantly disabling him and turning him back to Banner... and WB Hulk has big, big problems. His only chance is that the gamma energy takes her out before she can use the lasso on him. And, given the feats and scans of her durability... that's doubtful. Yes, WB Hulk has a chance to win, but it's not a slam dunk for him... and that's the optimistic assessment.

Avatar image for willpayton
willpayton

22502

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

144

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0