Webstad

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" @Akwa said:

But that is you beliving out of self-preservation. It is not real faith. "

Do you honestly think anyone believes in god just because he possibly made us? All Christians are trying to stay out of hell. "

" @Akwa: What makes God such an illogical concept?The fact that we can't see him?The fact that we can't touch him?That fact that whenever someone throws out the occasional "gimme,gimme" prayer and doesn't get what they want?If those are the reasons why people don't believe in God,then those are some narrow minded people. "

" @Vance Astro said:

"@Akwa said:

Yes. And yet I have yet to find any real rational proof of God's existance. "

Religion is based on faith not evidence. "

Exactly.And the attitude of faith is a horrible attitude to take. It slows down scientific progress because people would just assume that God made it like that rather than look at it scientifcally to find out how it works. The very concept of faith is against scientific principle.

Take the question, how did the universe begin. A scientific and rational minded man might say something along the lines of,

"I don't know but I'm sure it can be scientifically proven. We should investigate it further."

A faith minded man would probably say something along the lines of,

"I don't need to investigate it because I know that a big invisible man made it. How do I know? I have no real proof, just some words taken from a fairly dubious book. But that is enough."Of course, they won't put it like that. But that's the essence of it. "

" @Akwa said:

Yes. And yet I have yet to find any real rational proof of God's existance. "

Religion is based on faith not evidence. "

" @Webstad: But you know if we all lived the way we wanted to,there'd be absolute chaos. "

" @Webstad said:

" @Vance Astro said:

" @Webstad said:

" That says a lot about the bible if the people it was written for won't even follow it... "

Well it was written before anyone who is alive now was even a fetus.You have know their will be different interpretations and things like that. "

That's the main problem with religious texts: there will always be different interpretations. Hence all the similarities between Judaism, Christianity, and Islam. They are all different interpretations of essentially the same thing. "

It's sad we don't know exactly what are purpose of existing is or what God wants us to do and if he does exist.We don't know any of this for certain.It's really mind blowing that there could possibly be someone out their watching over us and he is leaving it up to our judgement to decide whether we believe in him or not,although we've never seen him. "

" @Webstad said:

" That says a lot about the bible if the people it was written for won't even follow it... "

Well it was written before anyone who is alive now was even a fetus.You have know their will be different interpretations and things like that. "

That says a lot about the bible if the people it was written for won't even follow it...

" @Webstad: That sort of thought never made sense to me. "

I'm of the opinion that when we die that's it. There's nothing more. Out conscience vanishes, along with our perspective, memories, and everything that has ever been attached to our own personal lifeforce. All that remains is our rotting corpse. It kinda makes you want to make the most of your life, to try harder, because when it's over that's it. There is no more.