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Amazons STOMP the Dora Milaje

OP states DCEU 20 amazons Vs 20 MCU dora Milaje. with STANDARD GEAR!

The key word is STANDARD GEAR.

Dora Milaje standard Gear throughout BLACK PANTHER movie was a spear (probably Vibranium). Nothing more. They would need to fight close combat with Amazons. Which would result in a win for the Amazons

I know this post is 5 years old. But its silly.

Its like saying

A SIBERIAN TIGER vs a HOUSE CAT

the Siberian tiger is at the same strength, size and speed level as the house cat. Battles are won by KO or death.

SEE HOW STUPID POSTS LIKE THIS ARE?

@supermanforever:

thats logic is so bad i dont even know were to begin.

The logic is so BAD blah blah blah..

It took all gods including Zeus who was more powerfull than Ares and green lanterns and all men, amazons, atlanteans to make steppenwolf retreat.

Really?

You do notice in the JL movie Steppenwolf came with an Army of Parademons and other advanced TECH right?

Had he came alone he would have been bitchslapped instantly by anyone of the GODS

He DID NOT single handed do anything impressive in the first invasion with the old gods and he did nothing in the second invasion.

One on One with DCEU Ares Steppenwolf would lose based on the feats I saw in Wonder Woman and JL.

Hell if Wonder Woman was on Theymiscara when Steppenwolf arrived he would not even have gotten the first box. Steppenwolf is nothing without his ARMY SPACESHIPS and advanced TECH.

Darkseid could have pulled it off but not Steppenwolf.... not with the feats he displayed in the movie.

@hutchy1345:

Just because you can do more things doesn't make you stronger!

Specifically comparing DCEU ARES to Steppenwolf in the DCEU, ARES should be able do STOMP Steppenwolf because the things he can do specifically give him the ability to defeat Steppenwolf.

Steppenwolf showed no real ability. He was not stronger or faster than Wonder Woman. Wonder Woman could probably have SOLOed him if steppenwolf did not have the Parademons with him.

Hell if Wonder Woman was on Themysciara when Steppenwolf arrived he would have failed in the beginning.

GUYS read the OP This is DCEU ARES vs DCEU Steppenwolf

DCEU ARES was WAY more powerful than DCEU Steppenwolf.

DCEU ARES would STOMP Steppenwolf.

DCEU ARES had

• Flight
• Superstrength
• Lightingbolts
• Teleportation
• Matter Manipulation
• Weapon Summoning
• Combat Abilitys

DCEU Steppenwolf

• Strength
• Jumping abilities
• and an magic AX

Saying Steppenwolf wins because Diana beat Ares and could not beat Steppenwolf just speaks to how bad and inconsistant the writing of Wonder Woman in JL movie was.

Wonder Woman, Flash, Cyborg (if he understood his powers) could stomp Steppenwolf individuallyin the DCEU.

Aquaman could stalemate him in the water. probably even Win.

Listen I like superman (a little, his power makes him boring and stupid outside a movie version in my opinion) and I DO NOT believe he is immoral I was also trying to make a point with your comparison of him with Wonder Woman since anything can be justified depending of point of view. However I don't think YOU can determine if Superman is more moral than anyone because of the "GREY" area which you agree we get into when we do such things.

and also

“With great power comes great responsibility.”

Is not a cliche its a moral pronouncment which has been used by leaders though-out history and was pretty much the basis and Justification of Lex Luthers and others hatred of Superman in BvS.

@ilikecoffee:

Superman has defeated stronger foes and has done more than Diana. He's also more altruistic and moral than she is. He's the better super hero. Not only is he morally superior to Diana, but he's also more powerful than she is. He has more impressive feats under his belt than she does both in the comics and in the movies.

I am not going to repeat your whole post but its full of logical fallacies.

But I will address this point.

if you agree with the following premise like all comicbook fans do With great power comes great responsibility.

Then

The argument can be made that superman is the most IMMORAL superhero of them all.

BECAUSE

He is powerful enough to hear, react to and prevent most of the worst crimes on this planet. He does not need to eat or sleep or even breath. He has the ability to do what batman does only on a global scale and yet he does none of those things.

Any person who can easily prevent heinous crimes and does not is pretty much immoral

This Theme was all over BvS and I though it was great but of course critics and the audiences missed the point.

I have such a problem with superman as a character. I liked him in Man of Steel and BvS.... but the way Justice League made him... It seems we are going to get the old BS over powered superman back.

@jphulk26:

Lastly I think we should mention why it was a commercial mistake to go this direction as well. Let them know this should have been their Hulk VS Thor moment and that they squandered it and give them examples from the comics of why this battle between a Warrior and a powerhouse should have been much more epic and would have ultimately raised the critical perception of the movie.

Highly Agree

And I don't know about you but I was fine with Wonder Woman losing for Superman's grand comeback, but it would have been cool to see Wonder Woman really give Supes a run for his money, completely unarmed because she didn't want to kill him.

Under the circumstances Wonder Woman "HAD" to lose.

However, and this is my personal observation, I wish Wonder Woman was not even there for Supermans grand comeback. She arrives only minutes after the event....

Wonder Woman confronts Superman and says the "Dont make me do this" line..... and Supermans Eyes begin to glow or Somthing else threatening

and just then Lois Arrives snapping superman out of it.

That would totally bring MASSIVE SPECULATION and INTEREST as to who would have won had they fought. Something like that would PAY Dividends in a later movie and be done correctly without the STORY handy capping any of them in a HAD to lose situation like this one did.

That is just my opinion. and of course. What is Done is Done.

I think your ideas of letting DC know the situation is a good one.

@orangebat:

Batman was talking about muscle memory

With all due respect you did not answer my question. Why would Batman bring up "muscle memory" if it has no relevance to Wonder Woman's combat speed Vs Superman? Why would he make the comparison between and distinction between Usain Bolt and Bruce Lee asking who is faster. Batman was clearly suggesting Wonder Woman is faster than superman when it comes to combat. Even in The sacrifice Story ARC Superman literally missed 95% of his haymakers while Wonder Woman landed all of her punches and kicks.

So no, based on her own movie, she's not in Superman's power league.

What is a "power league" how are you defining it? the only way this makes sense is if you put it into some kind of context.

If you are trying to say Superman is stronger than Wonder Woman I dont think anyone would really argue that. Atleast I don't.

if you are trying to say in a combat situation Wonder Woman is out of Supermans league? Then I completely disagree. Superman can lift 5 quitillion tons and push a planet ETC. Wonder Woman does not need to do any of that in order to go toe to toe with superman as evidenced in like 40 years of comic history

There is no fight competition in the history of the world that even uses RAW STRENGTH as a measure of how good a fighter is going to be. Weight is used for obvious reasons and speed and technique are used.

The winner of a strong man contest does not automatically make him the most powerful fighter in the world

You know, I just watched the movie's battle scenes on YouTube again, especially the Ares one. Wonder Woman can barely lift anything heavier than a tank most of the film, gets knocked on her ass by an explosion, which also wrecks her hearing and defeats Ares by using her gauntlet-smashing deus ex machina magic, which was supposed to be one of Ares' weaknesses and which Superman prevents her from using in the film. She's also not at all that fast when you compare her to other non-humans in the film.

You are Cherry picking from 3 different directors interpretation. Zack Patty and Joss. which is not useful.

In General

Wonder Woman is about BATTLE, SKILLS, TACTICS and TRAINING. Why are you focused on her durability,strength and raw speed? Wonder Woman simply needs to be is strong, fast and durable ENOUGH. To utilize her battle skills against beings like Superman which she consistently does in comics and even in the Justice League Movie (although I dont like how they handled it)

You say Wonder Woman is on Spidermans "Level" whatever that mean. Meanwhile she is able to headbutt and get headbutted by Superman full force and get right back up in seconds unharmed. She is able to take Doomsdays heat vision and Full force Punch and just smile about it. What do you think would happen to Spiderman?

@jphulk26:

Is this film trying to tell me Faora from Man Of Steel or even a scientist from the ship, infact any Krytonian, is as fast as Flash, can one shot Darkseid's uncle and main general, can rip apart all the Gods, Zeus, the Atlantian's, Green Lanterns who were all struggling with Steppenwolf, can basically wreck WW's shit.

Yup you nailed it exactly. I personally think MoS and BvS pegged supermans strength exactly where it needs to be for a shared universe. I love how Faora was an actual threat to Superman because she was a better fighter. I like the fact that a missle temporarily knocked her out because she was also suffering from the atmosphere sickness. That scene gave me so much faith in Zack Syders ability to balance supermans powers with the rest of the DCEU.

That was undone in Justice league

If Superman was a standalone outside of the DCEU then they can go crazy with his powers. Justice League movie made superman into a deus ex machina.

I saw the movie again I liked it better second time but they messed that part up.