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@henryarguelles5 said:

@vuviper: Fine...but the rules are morals off, to the death...so what he wanted to do is irrelevant to what he actually can do. As to the Martians healing ability...since when is the Hulk a slouch in that department? His healing ability is so extreme it's broken...and with his rage increasing all his powers, he's more than a match for a White Martian...which means the Flash will his hands full.

Exactly since Morals are off, there is no reason for Flash to hold back him IMPs like he normally does. And I brought up martian healing to explain why he was back in the fight later in the arc, I wasn't comparing it to the Hulks, but I'm pretty sure J'onn has regenerated from worse than Hulk. A white martian isn't a match for a Bloodlusted Flash, so even if Hulk was a match for a white martian (which he isn't) it wouldn't say anything about beating Flash.

@Godabed said:

@Almighty_Darkseid:

Despero was beaten by aquaman.... aquaman...

You know this isn't true right?

@buttersdaman000 said:

@vuviper said:
Ehhh...I wouldnt really put Superman Blue above Pre-DCnU Superman. He did have more powers but if your read the comics, he was mostly only doing things that any other Superman can do in more creative ways. For example, he created a force field to stop some falling debris. Furthermore, I dont think his physical attributes are as high as they were with Pre-DCnU Superman either.

Not pre-DCnU superman in general, but this was even before Death of Superman.

@Lady_Liberty said:

A battle with Mr. Majestic that he doesn't win in a stomp so brutal it makes me remember his battle cry "Are you insane?!?" ?

Awesome work ShadowKing!

I am still going to back Mr. Majestic, simply because he is smart enough to figure out what he needs to do, which is to re-write Amazo's programming, and he has already shown he is able to do that.

Even if he doesn't do that, he may well be physically a match for Amazo, due to his strength and skill. With the speed of Flash Amazo is faster, but not by enough to blitz in my opinion.

That could depend entirely on what incarnation of Amazo is being used. The recent Justice League Amazo blitzed flash (As he's faster than Supes, Flash, and WW combined) so he'd have no problem blitzing Majestic.

Also if Majestic let's Amazo fight him as long as he did Eradicator before realizing that he should probably switch tactics, he'd likely already be too damaged.

@Almighty_Darkseid said:

@_Punk_ said:

@Almighty_Darkseid: The whole recurring theme in DD is that he dies THEN revives. Do you even read the comics? And why make a battle if your going to argue one side?

he never dies, thought thats the thing... the only true time that he did die is when he was fighting imperiex... and im just stating facts... not taking any side...

That's not true it's been stated on Panel that he died in his fight with Superman and the justice league in Death of Superman. That's why when Doomsday became intelligent he was afraid of Superman in Doomsday Rex

@jeanroygrant said:

Zeus does what he did to Hulk, to Doomsday.

Doomsday does what he did to Darkseid, to Zeus.

More seriously though, weren't you the one that said Thor stalemated Zeus for months? Doomsday is stronger than Thor is.

@Buckshot said:

@KalTheHokage_2007 said:

I'll play devil's advocate. Mr Majestic. Genius-Level Intellect will give him an enormous edge, but then again Amazo has Batman's equally amazing intellect.

I'm not entirely sure that this is the best way to back Majestic. For one, you'd have to say something about what he'd do with his intellect. For example he could rewrite Amazo's programming with his laser vision, or trick him into absorbing Majestic's own powers and then busting his power-dampening pills on Amazo and taking advantage of the split second of confusion when those abilities go away before Amazo switches back to what he has stored, or something along those lines. And for two, I don't think I'd call Batman's mind an equal to Majestic's.

Good examples

@King Saturn said:

good battle... going with The Eradicator here.
this version of the Eradicator gave Superman fits... I think the same will happen with Superman Blue.

Thanks

Blue Superman was probably stronger than that Superman and his competingenergy manipulation powers should leave him vulnerable to the kinds of attacks Eradicator used. (how do you have two lines without the space?)

Eradicator vs Superman Blue

• Fight takes place on the JLA moon base
• Victory by KO/incapacitation/or death of the opponent
• Fight to the best of their abilities without violating their character

@Uno_Oscuro said:

@vuviper said:

@80sBaby said:

@vuviper: Sentry never fought WorldBreaker Hulk, only WW Hulk. WB Hulk didn't make an appearance until after Rick Jones was stabbed by Miek.

That's what I couldn't remember, I knew he was worldbreaker at the end of WWHulk but I didn't remember if Sentry fought him at all in that state. Thanks

@Uno_Oscuro: I don't have a problem with that statement. We were just talking about his durability though. In terms of him taking out WW before she can do damage to him I don't think so. She is the more skilled fighter and would get more hits in that he does.

I guess its one of those agree to disagree things. I think we are both pretty set in our decisions, but I'm glad we kept the debate mature.

OK. I still believe Hulk win, but it's because he has his healing

@80sBaby said:

@vuviper: It doesn't really doesn't matter when. It was explicitly stated that WW Hulk was holding back so he was never bloodlusted. WB is the same Hulk and WWH, just at a higher level of anger/power. The OP says "bloodlusted" and a bloodlusted WWH = WB Hulk power-levels.

I'm saying just because he's blood lusted doesn't mean he enters the World Breaker state, as you said it is about what anger level he's at