viewtifullogan

Well my life i calling me back lol, its been really fun picking all your guys brains so i will leave this post, and for the next to come along with my final words.

A fight to incapacitate would go to spider-man, what nightcrawler does to spider man just would not be enough to keep him down and spiderman would knock old blue out.

A fight to the death i have to give up to nightcrawler, nightcrawler would touch spiderman and well thats all it would take teleported limb special.

thanks again all

...BAMF

Buckshot says:

"I've seen him do it to robots, and that's another discussion we've had. Show him doing it to an organic being. Robots come in parts, humans don't. And still, you have to prove Nightcrawler can even hit Spider-Man. And I never said Spider-Man *would* take NC's head off. I said he *could* to demonstrate the difference in strength. He could also just flick NC in the head and knock him out. The guy has knocked over a train car with a flick, he could take NC out of the fight with a light hit like he usually uses when he fights and holds back. You're the one talking about people acting out of character (NC taking people's heads off), not me.
Post Edited:2008-03-02 19:39:20"

and i quote "On the other hand, one hit from Spider-Man could actually take Nightcrawler's head off if he really wanted it to." i guess i should have put if he really wanted to after my statement. You made a hypothetical statement so i did as well so it was not the first to go out of character. Also hello the two trying to woop weach other is not really in character.

Also you question all my info but yet you make claims like he can flick over a train cart which seem totally unrealistic to me where did you come up with that one. The hulk could not even flick over a train a flick with that force would just put a big hole in the side off it.

Also NC could just launch projectiles at spidey. With NC being able to teleport in at the same speed he left he could teleport straight up free fall down teleport and grab a object(any thing smaller then a car his limit) and teleport it in point blank even spidey will have troubles dodgeing car sized object going 160mph point blank and trying to avoid NC ripping of his limbs.
Post Edited:2008-03-02 19:55:25

Buckshot says:

"Too bad Nightcrawler can't touch Spider-Man. If you believe that's wrong, prove it. Additionally (though less important) Nightcrawler hasn't teleported people's body parts off in 616. We did this before and no one provided examples of him doing it. He's done it to Deadpool in an alternate universe, but no one brought up him doing it to a person in 616. Might be a mental thing that he won't allow himself to do it since that would kill his enemy, but whatever the reason, it's not something he does."

NC has to orion, a sentinel from the future, his code against killing stops him from teleporting body parts off people. He can selectively chose what he teleports he does not have to take the entirety of what he is touching. and spiderman does not puch peopel heads off either lol.
Post Edited:2008-03-02 19:33:34

Buckshot says:

"viewtifullogan says:

"we have established that but the thing is spiderman will react but just not fast enough to dodge a punch that has already begun to be thrown teleported within a inch of him."

First of all, he can dodge things from that close. He's easily dodged multiple bullets that he didn't know about until they were very close to his head. He's also dodged bullets without his spider sense at all, meaning he wasn't warned beforehand but was still fast and agile enough to get out of the way. He's dodged Venom too, someone who's as fast or faster than him, punching at close range and doesn't set off the spider sense.

But also, say he couldn't. What is Nightcrawler's fist going to do to him? He's taken hits from people who are a lot stronger than Nightcrawler. I can distinctly recall him taking a hit from someone who had their strength amped to close to his level (so that's more than 10 tons and closer to 20) and he rolled with it so he wouldn't hurt them. He said if he'd taken the hit straight up, it would have broken the other guy's arm.

Nightcrawler's punch isn't going to phase Spider-Man, and that's if he lands a solid hit, something he won't be able to do anyway. On the other hand, one hit from Spider-Man could actually take Nightcrawler's head off if he really wanted it to."

back at you friend 1 punch from spiderman and off goes nightcralwers head you are right but 1 finger from NC and bamf off goes spiderman head.

Zenma i have seen the pic but please read all the post and you will know its old news and not exactly the same thing here.

Gambler says:

"Spiderman's spidersense reacts on its own. He doesn't need to think about moving, or what direction to move. It does it automatically. Its pure instinct."

fair enough, but the distance moved in that short amount of time his spider sense has to move his body wouldn't be enough to move him out of range. i know if is just instinct he is limited by his own body and attributes, which neither have to potenial to move that fast. spiderman is fast but he is not in the category of speedster.

Zenma says:

"viewtifullogan says:

"Zenma says:

"spider-man can react pretty fast faster than nightcrawler's reactions"

its not about who has the better reaction time in this instance."

well if nightcrawler teleports behibd spider-man, spider-man will sense it and react"

we have established that but the thing is spiderman will react but just not fast enough to dodge a punch that has already begun to be thrown teleported within a inch of him.

Zenma says:

"spider-man can react pretty fast faster than nightcrawler's reactions"

its not about who has the better reaction time in this instance.

very valid point but what do you mean by "react". just knowing he was there, was this a fighting instance. spiderman will react but will it be fast enough to avoid NC, i know there is a very small delay but spider man can only move a few inches at best in that short amount of time. i feel NC would connect.
Post Edited:2008-03-02 19:05:29

lol i knew someone was looking for some pic.

anyway this pic can work both ways the bullet was only half way there but he BARLEY dodges and if that bullet was as big as NC fist it probably would have made contact.

but props on finding that pic so fast.
Post Edited:2008-03-02 18:42:17