Man, I'd love it if this actually happened. Dude was fantastic in Gladiator - he could portray the right pitch between Luthor's arrogance and insecurity.
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1a. Lvenger never said that Superman lost - he said he was dominated throughout the entire fight. Superman only won the battle through extenuating circumstances. More to the point - he was obviously desperate and out of options when he finally decides to BFR Doomsday. Hell, Doomsday broke Supes' freaking arm in this encounter. It's strongly-implied that DD would have won had Superman not used the Mother Box.
1b. You can cut it however you want - but the fact still remains that Doomsday was capable of one-shotting beings like MMH and Orion - both of whom are physical powerhouses. I'm not making any comparisons to Superman: all I'm saying is that it's extremely notable. And how did Doomsday show lower energy durability when he got killed by Imperiex-Prime? Isn't this the same guy who channels the power of the Big Bang?
2. Again, not in this incarnation. You could argue that DD has fought these particular enemies before, but he is actually capable of developing new countermeasures and powers without death. Look at him breathing fire against MMH - sure he's fought J'onn before, but he never died and regrew to have that specific power. It literally manifested mid-battle. Or even his fight with Radiant - where he manifested a new energy field on the spot, despite never having done so. Or even his final fight with Supes in H/P: where he became resistant to ultrasonics and even extended his bones and grew poisons to penetrate Superman's skin. He grew ranged attacks to beat flyers and repelled Waverider's energy, etc etc...
Compare that to DoS Doomsday - who very clearly showed no such ability to adapt on-the-fly.
3. Ugh, wall-of-text. I'm leaving this to you @lvenger
4. I'm genuinely curious as to why you think Thor can single-handedly solo the most powerful incarnation of Doomsday. The Justice League themselves claimed that they couldn't take him down. This version of Doomsday has never been actually beaten outside of Imperiex Prime, has shown to be able to tank continuous hits from a desperate and Mother Box-amped Superman. He tanked Supes and Waverider attacking him at full-power, this DD was basically impervious to physical harm.
I won't be able to reply soon, as I'll be away for a few days, but I can't say I agree with your stance. You're saying that Thor doesn't even need the Uncanny Avengers - that he can beat H/P Doomsday all by himself?
Question: what does morals-on imply for either Deadpool or Crossbones? The conditions state that Death is a legit way to win the fight after all.
I'm inclined to go with Deadpool due to the physicals/healing-factor advantage.
Technically Wonder Man, Scarlet Witch and Rogue are dead, I'd say Doomsday could take the rest
Lol, this made me laugh. Kinda absurd - the death rate of the team.
I'd give it to H/P Doomsday. Dude was ridiculous. Orion+Martian Manhunter couldn't last longer than a minute against him, Radiant and Waverider's attacks both backfired, Doomsday could adapt on the fly. Even DS' Omega beams didn't work on him, and he thrashed DS (though some argue it was a mere avatar). Superman amped with a Mother Box couldn't beat him and had to BFR him in the end.
Apparently he beat the JLA in the span of two pages, I don't think that the Uncanny team can put him down once faster than DS can bring the pain, even morals-off.
1.Based on that Orion is levels below Post-Blue Superman, considering that Post-Blue Superman won with DD and even HP couldn't beat pre-Blue Superman (while it isn't something really bad, considering that Superman had mother box, just DD never won with Superman).
2.Radiant won first battle. He lost the second one, because DD evolved past his power. He never met Thor, so he couldn't evolve past magical lightnings for example.
3.Waverider BFR worked fine on him.
4.Why would You put Darkseid's OB above Thor's lightnings?
I think you may be misinterpreting my post - I'm not using ABC Logic to draw comparisons, I'm simply listing H/P Doomsday's notable feats.
1. For their HP fight, Superman himself realizes that he can't beat DD (even with amps from the Mother Box and Waverider's energy), and then only proceeds to BFR Doomsday. I think it's fair to say that Doomsday could potentially have beaten Supes if the battle went on. This incarnation of Doomsday has only been killed by Imperiex-Prime, he has never been beaten otherwise before. He defeated the JLA, one-shotting Orion and J'onn.
2. Radiant beat an older incarnation of Doomsday years ago in Doomsday Year One. H/P Doomsday is a lot tougher, and beat him by adapting to his energy form - altering his energy and killing him. He might have already adapted to Radiant's specific energy attack before, but DD still adapted to Radiant's actual energy form. This incarnation can adapt on the fly: he evolved to Oan energy from the Guardians, evolved to breathe fire and resist TP against MMH.
3. I never said it didn't? To note: BFR isn't a valid option in this battle, because the conditions clearly state at least one death must be made to win. I was referring to Doomsday adapting to Waverider's attack:
4. Did I now? Again, all I did was list DD's various feats, I never explicitly put Darkseid's OB over Thor's lightning.
Fear itself wasn't terrible
It really was. What's the point of an event if nothing significant happens?
For....fun? I don't know, I can understand the perspective of 'well nothing changed!". I get that. But at the same time, I'm glad that I can sit down and enjoy a fun, attractive comic-book that's just epic action. Everything like Buck's death and Cap's shield went back to the status quo, but after stuff like Civil War and Dark Reign, I could live with that.
Me personally, I don't need something significant to happen in every event. Sometimes I just want a fun story with good action and art - and I'm satisfied.
He's inconsistent. One moment he's writing a horrible Thor and X-Men run, next he's writing an incredible Iron Fist and Hawkeye run. When he's good, he's good. When he's bad, he's bad.
This more or less sums it up. The most of Invincible Iron Man? Great. Invincible Iron Man 'Unfixable' arc? Horrible.
I always get the feeling that there are books that Fraction spends a lot of effort on, and then those that he just craps out for the sake of doing it (X-Men springs to mind).