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#1 Posted by VeganDiet (1086 posts) - - Show Bio

SP//DR BETTER GET AN ONGOING, OR AT THE VERY LEAST A MINI-SERIES!

DAT ART.....DAT ART!!!!!!!

Agreed. Really, really liked this.

#2 Posted by VeganDiet (1086 posts) - - Show Bio

@vegandiet said:

They can place their swords up before the attack is fired.

You're right. It's insane to think a being made of electricity fires bolts of electricity that look and behave just like electricity. I'm done with this conversation as you're being unbelievably thick. Call it agreeing to disagree if you like. I'll call it being secure in the fact that I'm right and that you're being a crazy person.

They can. But that rarely ever happens. I guess we should assume no street levellers can deflect bullets.

Hide behind your lame insults. My proof is more valid. You have nothing but what it looks like... *clap clap clap*

Never said that. But hey, put words in my mouth if you like. It's a better debate tactic than pretending electricity isn't electricity for some reason.

Your proof is that some omniscient narrator didn't come down from the sky and say: "Hey, in this movie electricity moves as fast as electricity." Your proof doesn't exist. You saying the attack is slower than electricity is based on literally nothing. At no point in the movie are we led to believe that the electric attacks being fired are any slower than electricity normally is. You don't like the feat. Fine. Whine about it, but it still absolutely happened. Unless you can come up with something better than: "We're never told how fast the attacks are" then, you're wrong.

#3 Edited by VeganDiet (1086 posts) - - Show Bio

@monsterstomp said:

@vegandiet said:

As I said, aim dodging. And other street levelers aim dodging lightning/lasers doesn't suddenly retroactively edit the footage of Spider-man explicitly dodging lightning after it was fired. Plug your ears, go "la la la" all you like. You're still wrong.

That's an inconsistency in his reaction speed, then. One that Spider-man didn't show as he was capable of dodging lightning repeatedly throughout this movie.

Your proof is that other people have dodged lightning, therefore Spider-man didn't? Your "proof" trumps nothing. You're being ridiculous and are transparently lowballing a feat for basically no reason. Spider-man dodged lightning. Dislike it all you like, but it clearly, and repeatedly, happened.

Oh my goodness. How is it aim dodging if some street levellers deflected lasers with their swords? In which deflecting things with a sword is better than dodging. The street levellers I'm referring to weren't aim dodging. Ignorant much?

My proof is that the speed of Electro's attacks are unquantifiable. You don't even have any other proof besides the way it looks. Agree to disagree would be the best solution here, I think...

They can place their swords up before the attack is fired.

You're right. It's insane to think a being made of electricity is firing bolts of electricity, especially when they look and behave exactly like bolts of electricity. A spade's a spade and a duck's a duck. I don't know why you can't see that.

I'm done with this conversation as you're being unbelievably thick. Call it agreeing to disagree if you like. I'll call it being secure in the fact that I'm right and that you're being a crazy person.

#4 Edited by VeganDiet (1086 posts) - - Show Bio

@monsterstomp said:

@vegandiet said:

Your argument that doesn't affect Spider-man clearly dodging lightning after it was fired? The one that is completely irrelevant to the conversation? The one I already answered? Okay.

How was it irrelevant? In the real world, lasers move as fast as light. In comics, street levellers dodge and deflect them. Doesn't mean they can react at light speed. Therefore it is unquantifiable in speed.

Its applicable here. In the real world lightning travels at near Mach 400. In comics street levellers dodge and deflect them, yes, Ultimate Cap has reacted to it. Doesn't mean they can react at lightning speeds. Therefore it is unquantifiable in speed unless stated otherwise.

There is my proof. Trumps taking everything at face value...

As I said, aim dodging. And other street levelers aim dodging lightning/lasers doesn't suddenly retroactively edit the footage of Spider-man explicitly dodging lightning after it was fired. Plug your ears, go "la la la" all you like. You're still wrong.

That's an inconsistency in his reaction speed, then. One that Spider-man didn't show as he was capable of dodging lightning repeatedly throughout this movie.

Your proof is that other people have dodged lightning, therefore Spider-man didn't? Your "proof" trumps nothing. You're being ridiculous and are transparently lowballing a feat for basically no reason. Spider-man dodged lightning. Dislike it all you like, but it clearly, and repeatedly, happened.

#5 Edited by VeganDiet (1086 posts) - - Show Bio

@vegandiet said:

Someone who was turned into literal living electricity. Someone who could travel through electrical outlets. You can pretend that what you said wasn't completely ridiculous, but it was.

Yes. The basis for my argument is that electricity is probably still electricity.

1. An inconsistent feat for his travel speed. It has nothing to do with Spider-man's ability to dodge lightning.

2. Feats that he replicated over and over during the movie.

Saying lightning isn't lightning shows borderline insanity and a transparent attempt to lowball a good feat.

Peace.

Keep dodging my laser argument.

Your argument that doesn't affect Spider-man clearly dodging lightning after it was fired? The one that is completely irrelevant to the conversation? The one I already answered? Okay.

#6 Posted by VeganDiet (1086 posts) - - Show Bio

@vegandiet said:

-I don't know. Are you seriously suggesting a being of living electricity is firing blasts that aren't made of electricity? What are they made of then? And Spider-man reacts to those blasts in the comics constantly. Even without Spider sense sometimes.

-If it looks like a duck, acts like a duck, and is fired by a person literally made out of ducks, I think it's safe to assume it's a freakin duck. Seriously, the basis for your argument is "We're never told that the thing that looks like lightning, acts like lightning, and is fired by a man who is literally living lightning is actually lightning, so we can't really know?" I feel pretty safe in declaring you wrong.

I never said it wasn't electricity, the fact that those blasts are powered by someone who was bitten by a swam of radioactive electric eels has me doubting that it moves as fast as electricity. He shoots electricity from his hands, dude. Nothing suggests it can travel as fast as electricity. And if we go back to my laser argument that you still continue to ignore, that means street levellers can react faster than light if we're taking it at face value.

And the basis of your argument is blindly taking it all at face value: Fine...

1. When his blasts hit the stage and are travelling up the side railing, the electricity should be moving 2/3 of light speed and it shouldn't have been seen. Spider-Man makes it to the top of the stage pretty much before or as the electricity finishes its course.

2. Spider-Man's "electricity timing" high end feats have been negated when being tagged by slower people.

Taking feats at face value is poor judgment and shows ignorance.

Peace.

Someone who was turned into literal living electricity. Someone who could travel through electrical outlets. You can pretend that what you said wasn't completely ridiculous, but it was.

Yes. The basis for my argument is that electricity is probably still electricity.

1. An inconsistent feat for his travel speed. It has nothing to do with Spider-man's ability to dodge lightning.

2. Feats that he replicated over and over during the movie.

Saying lightning isn't lightning shows borderline insanity and a transparent attempt to lowball a good feat.

Peace.

#7 Posted by VeganDiet (1086 posts) - - Show Bio

@vegandiet said:

@monsterstomp said:

@vegandiet said:

Yes. And usually it is assumed they are aim dodging. There is video evidence that ASM Spidey can dodge lightning after it is fired, as he does so in the clip.

Aim dodging? Street levellers have deflected lasers with their swords...

Electro's abilities are powered by unknown means, it isn't lightning. There is no reason to suggest that his blasts travel as fast as lightning.

It looks like lightning. It behaves like lightning. It is fired by a guy who is literally made of lightning. All evidence for it being lightning.

Do you have evidence that it's not lightning?

- Looks can be deceiving, friend. Lightning travels at like Mach 400. You aren't seriously suggesting Spider-Man can react to that? After the laser argument I put up and you ignored?

- The fact that the speed of his blasts aren't told?

-I don't know. Are you seriously suggesting a being of living electricity is firing blasts that aren't made of electricity? What are they made of then? And Spider-man reacts to those blasts in the comics constantly. Even without Spider sense sometimes.

-If it looks like a duck, acts like a duck, and is fired by a person literally made out of ducks, I think it's safe to assume it's a freakin duck. Seriously, the basis for your argument is "We're never told that the thing that looks like lightning, acts like lightning, and is fired by a man who is literally living lightning is actually lightning, so we can't really know?" I feel pretty safe in declaring you wrong.

#8 Posted by VeganDiet (1086 posts) - - Show Bio

@vegandiet said:

Yes. And usually it is assumed they are aim dodging. There is video evidence that ASM Spidey can dodge lightning after it is fired, as he does so in the clip.

Aim dodging? Street levellers have deflected lasers with their swords...

Electro's abilities are powered by unknown means, it isn't lightning. There is no reason to suggest that his blasts travel as fast as lightning.

It looks like lightning. It behaves like lightning. It is fired by a guy who is literally made of lightning. All evidence for it being lightning.

Do you have evidence that it's not lightning?

#9 Posted by VeganDiet (1086 posts) - - Show Bio

@vegandiet said:

@monsterstomp said:

@vegandiet said:

@monsterstomp: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rxwG0vyWsWk

2.)6:45 or so. He absolutely dodges lightning after it's fired.

It isn't lightning, so it shouldn't be assumed it travels as fast as lightning. And I did say Spider-Man is almost always in motion when he's dodging the blasts.

You're telling me that Electro, the guy that is living electricity, doesn't fire bolts of electricity, otherwise known as lightning? Ridiculous.

Street levellers react to lasers all the time in fiction. Doesn't mean they can react FTL.

Yes. And usually it is assumed they are aim dodging. There is video evidence that ASM Spidey can dodge lightning after it is fired, as he does so in the clip.

#10 Posted by VeganDiet (1086 posts) - - Show Bio

@vegandiet said:

@monsterstomp: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rxwG0vyWsWk

2.)6:45 or so. He absolutely dodges lightning after it's fired.

It isn't lightning, so it shouldn't be assumed it travels as fast as lightning. And I did say Spider-Man is almost always in motion when he's dodging the blasts.

You're telling me that Electro, the guy that is living electricity, doesn't fire bolts of electricity, otherwise known as lightning? Ridiculous.