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Whenever there is a new event in Marvel I make one of these blogs to kind of give my opinions on what I think will happen during the event and here what other people have to say about it.It's more or less a prediction thread for people to get out their ideas about what they believe will happen based on what we've seen in the previous events.Here are the other ones....  
 
Dark Reign Theory Blog
http://www.comicvine.com/myvine/vance_astro/dark-reign-theory/87-37786/  
Dark Reign Theory Thread
http://www.comicvine.com/forums/gen-discussion/1/dark-reign-theory/377769/?     
Skrull Theory\Secret Invasion Blog 
http://www.comicvine.com/myvine/vance_astro/skrull-thoery/87-29858/  
 
So now I will make my first predictions. 
 
Dark Avengers 
A.They will replace Ares.I think Ares will leave the team and join the Secret Warriors so he can be with his son.Plus Siege will go into Asgard and I don't think Ares wants to be against Thor. 
B.Thor vs. Sentry (World War Hulk style).I think there is going to be an instance that comes down to a showdown.None of the Dark Avengers can really take Thor.I think Norman will send Sentry at him and Thor will ultimately get the win but it will be an epic fight. 
 
New Avengers\Mighty Avengers\Avenger Resistance\Young Avengers 
A.The Avengers whom are beyond the law and aren't legally able to be Avengers will be one team.Cuts will be made. 
B.The Mighty & New Avengers will get new Rosters.
C.The Avengers Resistance which is essentially the New Warriors anyway...will just be the New Warriors. 
D.The Young Avengers will have the Vision as a member a new Member but also gain a new member.My guess would be Thor Girl.She's not going to work for Osborn.  
 
 
This is all I have so far.Anyone else got any input?
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@TheGuy said:
" @Vance Astro: I thought he didn't go through with it? "
@Vance Astro said:
".I didn't know the Thing was getting married :) "
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I think the Mighty and New Avengers will be like the Avengers (Mighty) and West Coast Avengers (New) after Seige, and people saying Thor shouldn't be on the Avengers should probably not even read Seige then because it's about Cap, Iron Man, and Thor coming back together and saving the world as the The Avengers, like in the good old days when the bad guys went to jail and the good guys went home.

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@Vance Astro said:
" I just got caught up with Fantastic Four.I didn't know the Thing was getting married :) "
You liked the MoD storyline?
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@Morpheus_ said:
" @Vance Astro said:
" I just got caught up with Fantastic Four.I didn't know the Thing was getting married :) "
You liked the MoD storyline? "
Actually no.I expected more from it.
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Something that was confirmed and I read somewhere is that ther's going to be an Avengers Academy after SIEGE...
 
As in the initiative will become a huge school for super powered people...

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@Vance Astro said:
" @Morpheus_ said:
" @Vance Astro said:
" I just got caught up with Fantastic Four.I didn't know the Thing was getting married :) "
You liked the MoD storyline? "
Actually no.I expected more from it. "
I liked it, until the very last issue. Reed drinking it out with Ben was fun, though.
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@Morpheus_ said:
" @Vance Astro said:
" @Morpheus_ said:
" @Vance Astro said:
" I just got caught up with Fantastic Four.I didn't know the Thing was getting married :) "
You liked the MoD storyline? "
Actually no.I expected more from it. "
I liked it, until the very last issue. Reed drinking it out with Ben was fun, though. "
I think the arc before that was alot better.It made me realize just how bad ass Doom is.
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Steve carries a gun now. :) 

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@Vance Astro said:
" @Morpheus_ said:
" @Vance Astro said:
" @Morpheus_ said:
" @Vance Astro said:
" I just got caught up with Fantastic Four.I didn't know the Thing was getting married :) "
You liked the MoD storyline? "
Actually no.I expected more from it. "
I liked it, until the very last issue. Reed drinking it out with Ben was fun, though. "
I think the arc before that was alot better.It made me realize just how bad ass Doom is. "
I just read the MoD from Millar's run, but as I said before, I wish to read all of it.
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@King Quisling said:
" Steve carries a gun now. :)  "
SURPRISE SURPRISE ...
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@Vance Astro: Gomer Pyle? :D
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@War Killer said:
 people saying Thor shouldn't be on the Avengers should probably not even read Seige then because it's about Cap, Iron Man, and Thor coming back together and saving the world as the The Avengers, like in the good old days when the bad guys went to jail and the good guys went home. "
Why shouldn't we read Siege? Having Thor in a team just isn't no fun at all unlike when he fights solo. They are coming back together, but it might just be a one time big time thing.
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I think that after siege, New & Mighty Avengers join as one Team starting with Avengers #600.  Written by Brian Bendis. Art by Chris Pacheco.
Here's my line-up idea:  
Avengers:
Captain America (Steve Rodgers)  
Thor 
Iron Man 
Hawkeye (Clint Barton)  
Mockingbird 
Ms. Marvel 
Spider-Woman 
Captain Marvel (Noh-Var) 
Wasp (Hank Pym) 
Quicksilver 
Hercules 
Amadeus Cho 
Jocasta  
Tigra 
Guantlet
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@Navek said:
" I think that after siege, New & Mighty Avengers join as one Team starting with Avengers #600.  Written by Brian Bendis. Art by Chris Pacheco.Here's my line-up idea:  Avengers:Captain America (Steve Rodgers)  Thor Iron Man Hawkeye (Clint Barton)  Mockingbird Ms. Marvel Spider-Woman Captain Marvel (Noh-Var) Wasp (Hank Pym) Quicksilver Hercules Amadeus Cho Jocasta  Tigra Guantlet "
I don't think they CAN do that at this point.Marvel makes alot of money off of their Avengers books.
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@Vance Astro: Yup. There can't ever be just one Avengers book. They might have a "main" Avengers line up and then a secondary team. But there will always be multiple books. Too much money they  would lose out on. Unless it came out multiple times a month like Amazing Spider-Man.
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@Nobody said:
" @Vance Astro: Yup. There can't ever be just one Avengers book. They might have a "main" Avengers line up and then a secondary team. But there will always be multiple books. Too much money they  would lose out on. Unless it came out multiple times a month like Amazing Spider-Man. "
There is no point of trying to do that anyway.There should always be two Avengers teams at least.There is too many potential Avengers,someone will end up getting the shaft if they aren't an Avenger.
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What Noh-Varr said to Sentry during their fight has me thinking now....

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@Vance Astro said:
" What Noh-Varr said to Sentry during their fight has me thinking now.... "
That he is insane and a criminal?
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i tink it'll come down to thor and osborn's mystery bodyguard in the end and the battle will destroy asgard or something 

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My guess is that Norman's Secret Weapon is Thanos. If so, Captain Marvel(Noh-Varr) will battle him and this will set up for the new rivalry between Captain Marvel and Thanos, much like Mar-Vell and Thanos.

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@Nobody: that'd be cool but how would osborn control thanos/bring him back to life ?
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@glforthewin said:
" @Nobody: that'd be cool but how would osborn control thanos/bring him back to life ? "
Bendis's horrible writing.
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@Nobody: lol. that actually makes alot of  sense
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 He's on the teaser poster, so I don't see why not.
 He's on the teaser poster, so I don't see why not.
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@Nobody said:
" @Vance Astro said:
" What Noh-Varr said to Sentry during their fight has me thinking now.... "
That he is insane and a criminal? "
No.Remember when he says "You are used to being manipulated.I can help you if you let me?" I think Noh-Varr will try and get Sentry to realize what he's doing is wrong.Sentry hates to do something wrong.All he ever wanted to do was be the greatest superhero.If Noh-Varr can convince him Norman is a criminal maybe we will see a difference in Sentry.Maybe Noh-Varr will be destroy the Dark Avengers from the inside out.Maybe Noh-Varr will coach Sentry into switching sides.
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I hope Thanos doesn't return in Siege...I really do.

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@Vance Astro said:
" @Nobody said:
" @Vance Astro said:
" What Noh-Varr said to Sentry during their fight has me thinking now.... "
That he is insane and a criminal? "
No.Remember when he says "You are used to being manipulated.I can help you if you let me?" I think Noh-Varr will try and get Sentry to realize what he's doing is wrong.Sentry hates to do something wrong.All he ever wanted to do was be the greatest superhero.If Noh-Varr can convince him Norman is a criminal maybe we will see a difference in Sentry.Maybe Noh-Varr will be destroy the Dark Avengers from the inside out.Maybe Noh-Varr will coach Sentry into switching sides. "
Possibly. I would like to see Sentry do something besides being manipulated.
 
@Vance Astro said:
" I hope Thanos doesn't return in Siege...I really do. "

I don't really either. But just based off who is on the teaser poster I've narrowed it to Mephisto, Thanos, and Beyonder. And with the way they set up Noh-Varr, its the one that makes the most sense.
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@Nobody said:
" @Vance Astro said:
" @Nobody said:
" @Vance Astro said:
" What Noh-Varr said to Sentry during their fight has me thinking now.... "
That he is insane and a criminal? "
No.Remember when he says "You are used to being manipulated.I can help you if you let me?" I think Noh-Varr will try and get Sentry to realize what he's doing is wrong.Sentry hates to do something wrong.All he ever wanted to do was be the greatest superhero.If Noh-Varr can convince him Norman is a criminal maybe we will see a difference in Sentry.Maybe Noh-Varr will be destroy the Dark Avengers from the inside out.Maybe Noh-Varr will coach Sentry into switching sides. "
Possibly. I would like to see Sentry do something besides being manipulated.

Dark Avengers #14 will apparently be that time.
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@Vance Astro said:
" I hope Thanos doesn't return in Siege...I really do. "
The feeling is mutual, and quite frankly, this would be something abnormal in comparison to Thanos' range of interest.
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If they are going to bring Thanos back they should have done it in War of the Kings.Don't go bringing this douchebag back during an Asgardian event.

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@Vance Astro said:
" If they are going to bring Thanos back they should have done it in War of the Kings.Don't go bringing this douchebag back during an Asgardian event. "
How about not bringing him back at all that sounds good to me
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None of the other choices are much better than Thanos though.

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@Nobody said:
" None of the other choices are much better than Thanos though. "
Why can't it be Wanda or Nate?
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@Nobody said:
" None of the other choices are much better than Thanos though. "
Nate or Mephisto would be cool in my book
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In all actuality it could be nobody shown on that poster.

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@Son_of_Magnus said:
" @Nobody said:
" None of the other choices are much better than Thanos though. "
Nate or Mephisto would be cool in my book "
It won't be Nate. Norman had his Secret Weapon at the beginning of Dark Reign, and he didn't meet Nate till almost the end of it. Mephisto makes about as much sense as Thanos.
 
@Vance Astro said:
" In all actuality it could be nobody shown on that poster. "

Hopefully.
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@Nobody: Ya but he is better IMO
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@Nobody said:
" @Son_of_Magnus said:
" @Nobody said:
" None of the other choices are much better than Thanos though. "
Nate or Mephisto would be cool in my book "
It won't be Nate. Norman had his Secret Weapon at the beginning of Dark Reign, and he didn't meet Nate till almost the end of it. Mephisto makes about as much sense as Thanos.

It could be Mephisto.I think he makes more sense than Thanos.
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@Vance Astro said:
" @Nobody said:
" None of the other choices are much better than Thanos though. "
Why can't it be Wanda or Nate? "
1. Wanda: Loki has been running around as Wanda with the Mighty Avengers. Don't you think Norman would have done something about his Secret Weapon running around with the enemy?
2. Nate: Didn't meet till after Dark Reign started.
3. Molecule Man: Didn't meet till after Dark Reign started.
4. Odin: Already told Thor that  he was fine with staying dead, and knew Thor wouldn't bring him back. Why would he change his mind suddenly?
5. Mephisto: Possible.
6. Beyonder: Possible.
7. Thanos: Possible.
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@Vance Astro said:
" @Nobody said:
" @Son_of_Magnus said:
" @Nobody said:
" None of the other choices are much better than Thanos though. "
Nate or Mephisto would be cool in my book "
It won't be Nate. Norman had his Secret Weapon at the beginning of Dark Reign, and he didn't meet Nate till almost the end of it. Mephisto makes about as much sense as Thanos.

It could be Mephisto.I think he makes more sense than Thanos. "
The only reason Thanos seems like the likely choice between Beyonder, Mephisto, and Thanos is if they wanted to set up the rivalry between Captain Marvel and Thanos.
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@Nobody said:
The only reason Thanos seems like the likely choice between Beyonder, Mephisto, and Thanos is if they wanted to set up the rivalry between Captain Marvel and Thanos. "
As in Noh-Varr..Captain Marvel? 
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I'm just wondering where Hank Pym fits into Siege. I'll admit he's always been one of my favorite Avengers and he's been doing well with his own Avengers team. I know the big story of Siege is Cap, Thor and Iron Man getting back together but Hank deserves to be heavily involved too. Specially with whatever they Avengers are up to after this event.
 
As for some of my theories I'm thinking Bucky will stay as Cap and maybe Steve will be tasked with rebuilding SHIELD and maybe running the Avengers Academy. Clint and Bobbi could take over the Dark Avengers and use them to work with and try to rehabilitate some criminals like Constrictor and such kinda like the Thunderbolts. Thor and Iron Man could replace them on New Avengers and give them some more firepower I just hope Hank gets to keep the Mighty Avengers. And Thor-Girl joining the Young Avengers, I'd love that and have been hoping for that since the start.

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@PrinceIMC: I just hope Hank has a part at all right now he is with The Inhumans WTF?
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@Vance Astro said:

" @Nobody said:

The only reason Thanos seems like the likely choice between Beyonder, Mephisto, and Thanos is if they wanted to set up the rivalry between Captain Marvel and Thanos. "
As in Noh-Varr..Captain Marvel?  "
 @Nobody said:

" My guess is that Norman's Secret Weapon is Thanos. If so, Captain Marvel(Noh-Varr) will battle him and this will set up for the new rivalry between Captain Marvel and Thanos, much like Mar-Vell and Thanos. "

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@Nobody said:
" @Vance Astro said:

" @Nobody said:

The only reason Thanos seems like the likely choice between Beyonder, Mephisto, and Thanos is if they wanted to set up the rivalry between Captain Marvel and Thanos. "
As in Noh-Varr..Captain Marvel?  "
 @Nobody said:

" My guess is that Norman's Secret Weapon is Thanos. If so, Captain Marvel(Noh-Varr) will battle him and this will set up for the new rivalry between Captain Marvel and Thanos, much like Mar-Vell and Thanos. "

"
Why would they do that during Siege?
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@PrinceIMC said:
" I'm just wondering where Hank Pym fits into Siege. I'll admit he's always been one of my favorite Avengers and he's been doing well with his own Avengers team. I know the big story of Siege is Cap, Thor and Iron Man getting back together but Hank deserves to be heavily involved too. Specially with whatever they Avengers are up to after this event.  As for some of my theories I'm thinking Bucky will stay as Cap and maybe Steve will be tasked with rebuilding SHIELD and maybe running the Avengers Academy. Clint and Bobbi could take over the Dark Avengers and use them to work with and try to rehabilitate some criminals like Constrictor and such kinda like the Thunderbolts. Thor and Iron Man could replace them on New Avengers and give them some more firepower I just hope Hank gets to keep the Mighty Avengers. And Thor-Girl joining the Young Avengers, I'd love that and have been hoping for that since the start. "
He's an Avenger.They all fit.
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@Vance Astro: Because Siege is the set up for the Marvel Universe after Dark Reign.
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@Nobody said:
" @Vance Astro: Because Siege is the set up for the Marvel Universe after Dark Reign. "
It's also mainly focused on Asgard....
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@Vance Astro said:
" @Nobody said:
" @Vance Astro: Because Siege is the set up for the Marvel Universe after Dark Reign. "
It's also mainly focused on Asgard.... "
Only as a location. Most the people appearing in it are not Asgardians. And Noh-Varr is already stated as appearing during Siege.
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@Nobody said:
 Most the people appearing in it are not Asgardians. And Noh-Varr is already stated as appearing during Siege. "
I'm aware of that.The focus of the event is Asgard though.I know Noh-Varr will be in Siege but I doubt they will make such a huge move just to make him relevant during an event he may and should have a minimal role in.