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Darkseid telekinetically crushes Zatanna's windpipe or dissolves her voice box before she's even able to utter a backwards spell.

@AllStarSuperman said:

@valencourt said:

@AllStarSuperman: No. Jean Grey atomises every member of the Heroes without even having to move. It's over. Absolutely NONE of those characters you just mentioned that could kill Jean have ever demonstrated being able to affect people from 500 feet away with their powers. The biggest chance they have in that area would be Ted with radiation but that would affect his teammates much quicker than Jean and Jean could easily K'O him or vapourise him alongside every one of his teammates before the radiation even reaches her and the X-Men. Heroes have no chance at victory.

really then why didnt she kill wolverine that easy? peter sylar and claire would livedue to healing factor. read the op i said ted could control radiation. with teds power peter could have blown up NY so it could definetly reac 500 ft

Because he was the only one that could get through to Jean as she was possessed by the Phoenix at the time. He was managing to get Jean to fight the Phoenix, therefore she was only attempting to vapourise him at an incredibly weak level. Eventually, she took back control of her own body and allowed him to kill her. This really doesn't retcon the fact that Jean can and has vapourised an entire army's worth of people within seconds.

No, they wouldn't live. They've demonstrated the fact that their healing factors don't work if something has interrupted their brains - and if they were being vapourised by Jean then they really wouldn't have a brain after it and their healing factors would not be able to grow them an entirely new body in time.

Ted's radiation, even if used by Peter, wouldn't be able to harm Jean in time for her to stop atomising the entire enemy team with a single thought.

I don't see why you continue to argue with this.

@AllStarSuperman: No. Jean Grey atomises every member of the Heroes without even having to move. It's over. Absolutely NONE of those characters you just mentioned that could kill Jean have ever demonstrated being able to affect people from 500 feet away with their powers. The biggest chance they have in that area would be Ted with radiation but that would affect his teammates much quicker than Jean and Jean could easily K'O him or vapourise him alongside every one of his teammates before the radiation even reaches her and the X-Men. Heroes have no chance at victory.

@AllStarSuperman: I edited my post before to add some more information but I'll just paste it here as well.

Just took another look at the OP and saw they are 500 feet apart. This just reinforces the X-men's victory. IIRC, Sylar and Peter have never demonstrated the ability to mimic someone's powers from such a large distance away. Maya has never been able to poison someone from such a large distance away and Matt has never demonstrated entering someone's mind from such a large distance away. Jean, however, was able to telepathically contact Scott and attract him to his impending death at Alkali Lake, which is a lot more than 500 feet away from where he is. She'd be able to shut down every one of the Heroes' minds from where she stood.

Anyway, all it takes for Maya to be eliminated is a ranged attack (Storm with a lightning bolt, Iceman with an ice blast or shard.) Or even close-combat as Mystique and Wolverine would most likely be immune to the poison. She really isn't that much of a factor here.

I'm still not convinced that either of these attacks could be carried out faster than Jean making a single thought. That's literally all it takes, but for some reason you refuse to acknowledge this.

I assumed there was prep time because there usually is in battles like these, but even without it, Heroes still get trumped.

@Storm Calling said:

@AllStarSuperman: Good point, can't believe I missed that in the OP about Maya. However, I still don't believe it'll be as effective against the other X-men. There is a delay in the poisons taking effect and anyone with a range power could easily deal with her. Syler has been able to point a gun at her chest and could have pulled the trigger in the time frame it would have taken her to kill him. All she'll do is be putting a bulls-eye on her head with her attack.

Co-signed. Really wouldn't matter if she had control over her powers or not. She could be easily taken out.

@AllStarSuperman What I don't understand is why you keep assuming Maya has time to be poisoning the X-Men or how Ando has time to be supercharging his teammates and how Peter and Sylar have the time to be copying everyone's powers or how Matt has the time to be trying to penetrate Charles and Jean's minds when A) Jean can vapourise every Heroes member at once with a thought, and B) Charles can mentally freeze every Heroes member with a thought. Heroes do not have time on their hands when they have the likes of Charles Xavier and Jean Grey, two of the most powerful telepaths known to Marvel (even in their movie counterparts), as enemies - not to mention the fact they have prep time. All it takes is a sentence from either member and its a done deal.

Edit: Just took another look at the OP and saw they are 500 feet apart. This just reinforces the X-men's victory. IIRC, Sylar and Peter have never demonstrated the ability to mimic someone's powers from such a large distance away. Maya has never been able to poison someone from such a large distance away and Matt has never demonstrated entering someone's mind from such a large distance away. Jean, however, was able to telepathically contact Scott and attract him to his impending death at Alkali Lake, which is a lot more than 500 feet away from where he is. She'd be able to shut down every one of the Heroes' minds from where she stood.

@DaAwesome2 said:

@valencourt:

Lucy Lawless? LOL..Wonder Woman is supposed to be hot. Lucy Lawless (even on Xena) was never even close to being considered hot.

Still, she's one of the best candidates in terms of character. It's her typecast to be strong, independent and powerful women. I'd rather her be Wonder Woman than someone like Megan Fox (as mentioned before) just because Megan is deemed as "hot".

Bump because I'd like to see people's answers.

My top 5s:

Marvel:

• 1. Kitty Pryde
• 2. Elektra
• 3. Molly Hayes
• 4. Hela
• 5. M

DC:

• 1. Wonder Woman
• 2. Poison Ivy
• 3. Supergirl
• 4. Harley Quinn
• 5. Catwoman

Buffy Summers is also one of my most beloved female fictional characters but not because of the comics so I omitted her.

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