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#1 Posted by Vaeternus (4014 posts) - 5 hours, 59 minutes ago - Show Bio

@ nick, again all youre doing is repeating yourself...it doesn't matter if shao kahn was amped or not, point is he has given those characters trouble who are FAR more powerful then bane again...

And yes i do follow the new 52, you're wrong non of it is canon to the new 52. The only thing that is canon is the gl stories which even some of them were changed. Batman, Superman, rest of the jl etc is not the same renditions as previously. You seem to have difficulty grasping this fact. I buy jl daily, read superman and batman. It's not the same continuity....its a reboot of dcu since the new 52.

Point is i proved my case already with vids, you know theres no scans for mk its a game so stop asking. Youve failed to provide any scans, proof of my request bane defeating anyone on shao kahn's level of power or someone of great magical power....batman does not count hes a human.

#2 Edited by Vaeternus (4014 posts) - 7 hours, 31 minutes ago - Show Bio

nick, Batman doesn't have greater strength feats then Shao Kahn, especially since the new 52 retconned everything before....Batman if anything has shown to be weaker currently. Shao Kahn again took a punch through the chest and survived, gave Raiden trouble, killed Shang instantly, killed KL who is easily on par with Batman at least...Shao Kahn isn't irrelevant you're making up an excuse for every legit, canon feat I post as usual due to your personal bias. Everyone who follows MK and DC knows Shao Kahn murks Bane.

@ Isaac,

Right...the effect. I'm referring to the source of the power. Speed of a phaser vs. a thought tk punch I don't see very comparable considering Kahn's weapon didn't miss or can't I should say, it's not like he projected an energy ball(which he can do but didn't clearly there in the video) He merely raised his hands and put Sonya and Cage on their butts(while koing them) not sure what relevance my latter point has to do with other characters entirely. We're pretty much talking Shao Kahn vs. Bane here, nobody else.

Well, as others have pointed out aside from myself despite who they are or how many names they have. They're still correct there. First the other topic(a topic clearly which you don't post in given your track record) yes I can check out profiles too ;) Who's insulting you or antagonizing? I'm merely stating the truth, had I NOT posted in this topic I would bet 1 million bucks you wouldn't have showed up here, now whether you admit that or not is irrelevant point is be it others, myself or mods know it to be true regardless given your patterns. At least nick is some what consistent with hating on MK characters, but I'm pretty sure you were attracted to it due to me posting alone. Just admit it already. How is me stating that you play DS an insult exactly? I'm just saying since you follow that series and clearly not MK, why are you even posting I may ask? Again, it's because I'm in here...if you say so, translate the facts and your patterns however you'd like. I call it how it is, nothing stupid about me observing the fact that you're following me clearly. You may not make it "so obvious" to the mods but I've been around long enough to realize when someone is stalking, following or lurking someone else especially online. I've had experience with real stalkers so I assure you, you're not fooling anyone.

You're right, age is irrelevant online but does factor in a lot. That being said, I've had adults try to stalk me, follow me or cyber stalk me elsewhere...of course they failed or I had to deal with them but didn't change the fact that they still did such. One of them being older them me few years back(before the entire site realized the guy was a powertrip psycho) he banned those who disagreed with him at the drop of the hat...

lol Shao Kahn doesn't need to be "flash" but nor is Bane so your point does you no credit here, I've posted vids, explained Shao Kahn's feats, abilities...he does not NEED to be "uber fast" to defeat Bane...who is nothing but a human brute with juice/venom to rely on. That is nothing compared to centuries of magic and fighting skills. Also, your analogy is pretty poor considering that Bane is not the Hulk...so there's no way in hell Bane is hurting Shao Kahn. The only way that's happening is if Kahn is removed from his power and it's just H2H, otherwise as I'm sure you can read the O.P. said "all powers apply to all" meaning Shao Kahn can practically blink and kill Bane...All he has to do is K.O. Bane, or knock him down then steal his soul. The end.

Batman stated Bane was faster and stronger then HIM, that's not saying much considering Bruce is a mere mortal(do you forget this speaking of basic knowledge?) If he was faster then say Superman or Flash, then you'd have a point but he's not...and Batman isn't nearly as impressive as I told nick in the new 52. Surely you'll agree to that at least compared to pre 52. You act as if Shao Kahn punches in slow motion...the vid you see where he's slow, was AFTER he was defeated and practically dying at that point by the EG's...

#3 Posted by Vaeternus (4014 posts) - 7 hours, 57 minutes ago - Show Bio

@joewell:

Shao Kahn's feats(some of which) aren't in video on on panels it's just known via his bio or said by Raiden in previous MK games. So what I'll do is list the obvious ones then give you vids of some of his other feats via MK9. I already gave nick a few, he just never wants to accept it.

-MK2 and Mk3 confirm Shao Kahn clearly has taken over and conquered other worlds Zaterra(Reptile's former world, Edenia(Kitana's former world) He won 9 MK tournaments, the one he lost was the 10th. Raiden years ago asked the Elder Gods to give Earthrealm a chance to defend itself, so they said ok and put forth the rules of Mortal Kombat in place....Outworld/Kahn's world of power won 9 of them, the rule is they have to win 10 Mortal Kombats to do such. Liu Kang prevented Shao Kahn from legitamately invading by defeating Shang Tsung and then later Shao Kahn in the second MK tournament. So during Mk 3, Kahn tried getting in via invading and sidestepping the rules of the Elder Gods and merge the realms that way....of course this was before the EG's realized what Kahn was doing and instantly killed him for breaking their will..

-In the future as you see in the beginning of MK9's cutscenes of the future(before it's changed), you see Kahn kill Blaze, gain power and kill everyone, kills Raiden and was vastly amped sure...and merged the realms with a thought but consider this he killed Blaze to do it...you just didn't see it but it happened.

Instantly healed Shang Tsung and gave him back his youth(but you don't see this he just confirms it saying such in the storyline) but here he also amps Sindel by killing Shang Tsung via transferring Shang's power/soul into Sindel's body instantly...

At the end of the game he also as you can watch above in the video I posted earlier, Shao Kahn entering Earthrealm(before Raiden and the EG 's kill him) he K.O.'s Sonya and Cage easily using his magic. Snaps KL's neck...earlier and survives a punch through the chest from Liu Kang. He stats he's not so easily killed and Quan-Chi merely accerated his healing with his powers but Kahn still survived the blow himself(he just appeared dead but wasn't)

I've posted them already just watch my previous posts .

Video of Kahn KOing Cage and Sonya watch above ^ it's posted.

Video of Kahn killing Shang Tsung instantly while amping Sindel my second video, just go to both vids at the mentioned time ;)

@Lady Shadow, if anything Ras would have better luck vs. Goro...Shao Kahn however would murder him and Bane.

#4 Posted by Vaeternus (4014 posts) - 8 hours, 46 minutes ago - Show Bio

Just noticed the O.P. stated no prep for Batman, meaning he will die here.

I agree, 3 of them at once is too much for Bats unless he has prep which still. He really has no answer for Freddy's mind domination once Batman sleeps, then in that time Myers and Jason can kill him in real time while he's battling Freddy...

#5 Posted by Vaeternus (4014 posts) - 8 hours, 49 minutes ago - Show Bio

@_______ lol it's what they do, It's really a pity though that you can't block your profile from certain people since that's the only way you can see where and when you post(not sure if I should laugh or be creeped out by that) I agree though, I think some folks need to get out more lol.

@ nick hero22, lol in other words you have no counter argument? lol no I'm not, how am I flip flopping? I've been trying to explain the same point to you this entire thread. You're the one that has no evidence behind your claim. Please provide proof of Bane taking out someone on Shao Kahn's level utilizing powerful magic. Scans, films anything even....there is no version of Bane to do such. Bane was K.O.ed by Bats and Azrael...two humans yet Kahn survived a punch through the chest by Liu Kang. Not only is Kahn shown to be more durable then Bane but he's simply MORE powerful, period.

#6 Posted by Vaeternus (4014 posts) - 9 hours, 16 minutes ago - Show Bio

1.You keep repeating yourself, I already explained this twice now. Watch the video at the end, there's your facts....do you need me to explain what TK is?

2. Ok, clearly you're not aware of what tel·e·ki·ne·sis is so I'll help you out by providing the definition of the word...

/ˌteləkiˈnēsis/
Noun

The supposed ability to move objects at a distance by mental power or other nonphysical means.

3. Again, I never said Shao Kahn gave Ermac TK, I said he was the one who MADE Ermac, binded and fused the souls of Edenia into one being loyal to him via his Magic. Due to that, Ermac had powerful TK as a result from Kahn's fusion of the souls into one being known as Ermac...

4. You asked for feats in general, doesn't matter if Shao Kahn was amped or not....Bane WITHOUT venom is nothing...even with it he gets defeated by mortals with toys on a daily basis.....what can he do against a being practically made of magic? Oh yeah, nothing.

Posting Shang's bio trailer only further proves my point...

#7 Edited by Vaeternus (4014 posts) - 9 hours, 39 minutes ago - Show Bio

Oh making weapons out of thin air via magic? Not needing a dumb serum that needs to go through his entire body via tubes that can easily be broken....by humans.

Injustice is canon within it's own universe, MKDC is not canon however...you missed the point of me bringing that up anyway. Bane is in there from two different DCU's and slow as hell in both...and in general, not to mention far less powerful then Shao Kahn.

1. Yes he did, and again I already stated such....he would also give Raiden trouble in OW but to be fair Raiden loses his powers so....Onaga is stronger, bigger then Kahn yet Kahn defeated him and poisoned him...He's proven to give Shinnok issues when he's on the same playing field as him, Shinnok is just more powerful and smarter mind you. In MK9 in case you're unware the canon outcome was Shao Kahn KILLING Blaze and taking his power to do whatever he wanted and thus killed everyone, became invincible and merged every realm....thus why Raiden sent himself a message through time in the past to change the future of armageddon...

2. Nope I'm basing it on fact, you're just ignoring it as usual and calling pure facts "false information"

3.I never said Kahn had the same abilities as Ermac, I said Shao Kahn created him via his magic which is strong enough to grant Ermac TK....please read more carefully.

4. Wrong, Shao Kahn defeated Raiden in the future, Blaze and killed everyone....as well as absorbed Earth's souls on massive levels...you don't know what you're talking about. Not to mention conquered various realms and gained power over centuries.

5. No, it's not read the above he didn't just conquer Edenia and kill Jerrod. If you think that you don't know anything about MK...clearly.

6. No, again Shang Tsung was cursed centuries ago by the Elder Gods and forced to use magic, find a way to live by living off of others then later met with Shao Kahn and Kahn trained him in his magic to increase Shang's power in return Shang worked for Shao Kahn as his primary right hand man sorcerer...

#8 Edited by Vaeternus (4014 posts) - 9 hours, 52 minutes ago - Show Bio

@ Isaac_Clarke..Uhh no. You see the difference is a ST phaser is a physical object that projects energy to stun or kill. You need to make it, hold it and pull the trigger like a gun or hit a button. Not to mention there are various kinds of TK due to different reasons....

Kahn however is PURE magic, and magic works different then a technologically advanced weapon. Seriously, massive difference...

I think it's really cute how where ever one of you guys go, the other follows (that bored huh?) what, don't you want to get all the trophies or achievements on DS? hmm. but as @charles_lee_ray mentioned clearly someone is obsessed. Oh and I assure you the fact that you think walmart has MK tourneys just shows how much you know about gaming ;) heh. I see now why you stick to Dead Space :)

Ha, you know I used to play baseball in my prime but chances are I'm older then you guy but I did find that funny I admit, ever consider getting a job at stand up? No local bars near you hmm? Actually it is TK, but apparently you too must have "I don't understand TK" syndrome? Yes? Please try to tell me how Bane tags someone who has given Gods trouble....you see Kahn has displayed TK in other versions of him MKC he did such, MK9 even. Point is he can DO damage without touching someone, again it does not matter if it's magic or "energy projection" in his case it's clearly magic. Nobody is breaking down the origin just WHAT he can do, that's all that matters. Bane can do nothing but fight up close, and would need Venom just to match Kahn strength wise and being as how Batman, Robin, NW etc normal humans with good aerial skills and a few toys can take out Bane 's tubes supplying the venom I'm sure Kahn would have little to no problem. Plus, considering he can literally form his own weapons from pure magic. Blob speeds? Yeah lol you play MK....just because he's a brute doesn't mean he's slow, if anything Bane in Injustice, the films have showed FAR slower speed then Kahn in any verse.

Laughably slow? Clearly you don't know who Kabal is lol. Oh wait, next you'll tell me Bane is faster then him too right? I need a good laugh. Oh yes because Bane is "so fast" right? lol wait I forget you don't follow MK or DC, my bad.

#9 Posted by Vaeternus (4014 posts) - 10 hours, 1 minute ago - Show Bio

Michael Myers alone kick Bats to Hell...

Easy Win for the 3 Maniacs

#10 Edited by Vaeternus (4014 posts) - 10 hours, 13 minutes ago - Show Bio

Like Raiden, Shang Tsung, Shinnok, Onaga, Blaze to name a few off hand....people who would literally stomp Bane in seconds....and yes Kahn has TK, his magic allows him to attack without directly touching someone. Again, there are SEVERAL characters who have TK via magic. There's two kinds of TK, normal TK and TK due to magic. It doesn't matter HOW or WHY someone has TK, just the fact that they HAVE TK. And Kahn clearly does.

Ermac was made from Shao Kahn's MAGIC putting Ermac together into one being fusing the souls of Edenian warriors who rebelled against Kahn...the fusion of the souls gives Ermac immense TK power, which is magic...how do you think Ermac is made? Shao Kahn's magic, that's what evidence. It's in his bio, seriously this is basic knowledge...It's not false, it's true. You just aren't familiar with MK characters.

It's not irrelevant you're ignoring obvious fact, Shao Kahn has strong power period. Power Bane nor Ras have an answer for especially when a mortal with gadgets defeats them on a regular basis....so humor me.

What does Shao Kahn killing Jerrod have to do with anything? Nobody is talking about Jerrod, Jerrod is only one of many souls Kahn killed and fused together to make Ermac. Yes, Kahn was amped when he faced Raiden by the absorbtion of Earth's souls...yes, but even without that Shao Kahn still has magical powers.

Notice here he is NOT amped yet instantly killed Shang Tsung via his magic and transferred his powers to Sindel...again, Bane shows nothing that can deal with such a feat.

3:30 in seriously, Bane dies against that....get real.

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