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#1 Posted by UltimateSMfan (1542 posts) - - Show Bio

@sandman_: where'd you find that meme and gif, man those are funny!!

#2 Edited by UltimateSMfan (1542 posts) - - Show Bio

@novi_homines said:

LOL! I actually like this one better though.

Lol, says the guy who's superiors wanted to Nuke the city as opposed to trusting their team.

#3 Posted by UltimateSMfan (1542 posts) - - Show Bio

@jonny_anonymous: Yup and that spawned a cult that worshipped him like a god and destroyed the future or something like that so then he went back in time and undid it. so that didn't really work out for him.

#4 Edited by UltimateSMfan (1542 posts) - - Show Bio

So Superman can turn up the intensity of his x-ray vision to emit gamma radiation,weve seen in AC #2 him emitting micro waves and stuff,so this seems pretty logical(as logical as real world science can get in comics) so anyway......

i'v read about a radio surgery technology known as the gamma knife(used for brain tumors),not a knife but more like a concentrated release of gamma rays that destroy brain tumors,malignant or benign without affecting the surrounding healthy brain tissue(unlike chemo which is unpredictable) so Superman can emit concentrated gamma rays from his eyes.....i don't kno if its been discussed in comics before about superman curing cancer and if he can or not and if he should or not...i, so far haven't come across a story like that and im unsure if its been done.

what im getting at is clearly if he wanted to he could try,so does 'with great power comes great responsibility' hold up here? and everything he's been taught about being a good person and helping people out?

Should Superman spend an hour every other day curing people with brain cancer? does he go down that path or not? is it his moral responsibility? i kno its comic books but still should it be addressed in comics if it hasn't been already?

i don't really know what to think about it, thats why im sharing my thoughts here.So,what do you guys think?

#5 Edited by UltimateSMfan (1542 posts) - - Show Bio

MOS no morals most probably takes this. Heat vision instantly slices through jean and mags and even hulk I really doubt the movie version of hulk can stand up to that,I mean Zod sliced through a building and brought it down on top of itself. I really don't see movie hulk getting passed that. Then, movie destroyer is nothing close to what he is in comics,so that goes down no sweat and then supes spends a little time with Thor if Thor unleashed his lightning otherwise his vastly greater strength over powers Thor and finished him off.

#6 Posted by UltimateSMfan (1542 posts) - - Show Bio

@drudox19: they just want, no,Need something to complain about dude. You can tell when the complaints are genuine and when its nitpicking all blown up. im one who respects that everyone is entitled to their opinion but i agree with you,the way on a weekly basis,the destruction that happens in comics is just taken fr granted and brushed aside and now people are going on and on about it in this movie....So Stupid! and hypocritical.

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#8 Edited by UltimateSMfan (1542 posts) - - Show Bio

@w0nd said:

@eternal19 said:
@w0nd said:

@eternal19 said:

@ultimatesmfan said:

@innervenom123: yea and that's so silly,saying it bad cuz the writers did what no one else has ever done in that way.apparently superman has to always always overcome those situations even the one he was put in,in the movie n then that apparently makes him like us and hes supposed to be above us.....but he is above us,if this supes was anything like us he wldve seized every opportunity, gone all out and finished off zod from the start. what he did was the absolute last resort and even then the remorse shown was seriously powerful.

@eternal19 said:

I had a problem with it at first. But when i thought about it a bit, i understood that superman did the same thing to doomsday. I dont like the idea that they are using it to give a reason for why he doesnt kill. Now instead of refusing to kill because of an ideal, superman refuses to kill out of guilt. thats not the superman i read every month.

he still has ideals,why arn't ppl getting this,if he didn't he wld've finished zod off in from the start. its not guilt that gonna keep him from killing. he already had that ideal,and was completely forced to go against it and now he knows what it feels like to kill, so its not guilt,its that he'll try to never let himself be put in that kind of position again.

The only reason that Snyder and Goyer put that in the movie. Is to give a reason for why Clark doesnt kill, so they are pretty much saying that the pain of killing Zod was so much that he will never kill again. Which means that he refuses to kill out of guilt in my opinion. The Superman that i grew up with doesnt kill because he feels that it will lead to a better world. The superman in MOS refuses to kill because he doesnt want to go through the mental pain that comes with taking a life. Thats not my Superman.

hey that's fair, but in the movie he didn't just walk up to Zod and snap his neck, he avoided beating people up, he avoided killing, and in the last scene he said don't do this, he tried to talk him out of it first, so I doubt he had an objection simply because of guilt. He could have beat up the guy in the bar without killing him, and those bullies, he simply did not because standing down was just easier, he knew it was the better way. And people say "because it would raise questions" no it wouldn't...he is 6ft tall and huge, he could beat up people no questions asked.

Im saying that the entire scene was intended to give a reason for why clark doesnt kill. according to Snyder and Goyer, clark doesnt kill because he is scared of having to go through the mental pain of killing a person. That is guilt and shows that Goyer and Snyder dont know what Superman stands for. They were so focused on makeing him supposedly "relatable" that they forgot what made the character cool in the first place.

P.S. i personally enjoyed this movie. I understand that its a different version of Superman. But i definitly dont want this version to translate to the comics.

seems to me this version has already translated into the comics, the comics one is punch first ask questions later....and I don't know how many parademons he killed in that Justice League story. Seems to me the superman you don't want to carry over is already there but even worse. Unless you preferred that mouthy obnoxious one that mocked and taunted authority?

We're not even sure he actually killed a parademon. You must not have read the last several issues of action comics. Because he is more like the pre-new 52 superman.

Ya he's more like the pre-52 version After the 5 year timeline, when he was just begining he was still reckless and obnoxious. thats why it makes very little sense people hating on Mos,its still superman in like the first week he's donned the costume,not full fledged experienced Supes.

#9 Edited by UltimateSMfan (1542 posts) - - Show Bio

@w0nd said:

@eternal19 said:
@w0nd said:

@eternal19 said:

@ultimatesmfan said:

@innervenom123: yea and that's so silly,saying it bad cuz the writers did what no one else has ever done in that way.apparently superman has to always always overcome those situations even the one he was put in,in the movie n then that apparently makes him like us and hes supposed to be above us.....but he is above us,if this supes was anything like us he wldve seized every opportunity, gone all out and finished off zod from the start. what he did was the absolute last resort and even then the remorse shown was seriously powerful.

@eternal19 said:

I had a problem with it at first. But when i thought about it a bit, i understood that superman did the same thing to doomsday. I dont like the idea that they are using it to give a reason for why he doesnt kill. Now instead of refusing to kill because of an ideal, superman refuses to kill out of guilt. thats not the superman i read every month.

he still has ideals,why arn't ppl getting this,if he didn't he wld've finished zod off in from the start. its not guilt that gonna keep him from killing. he already had that ideal,and was completely forced to go against it and now he knows what it feels like to kill, so its not guilt,its that he'll try to never let himself be put in that kind of position again.

The only reason that Snyder and Goyer put that in the movie. Is to give a reason for why Clark doesnt kill, so they are pretty much saying that the pain of killing Zod was so much that he will never kill again. Which means that he refuses to kill out of guilt in my opinion. The Superman that i grew up with doesnt kill because he feels that it will lead to a better world. The superman in MOS refuses to kill because he doesnt want to go through the mental pain that comes with taking a life. Thats not my Superman.

hey that's fair, but in the movie he didn't just walk up to Zod and snap his neck, he avoided beating people up, he avoided killing, and in the last scene he said don't do this, he tried to talk him out of it first, so I doubt he had an objection simply because of guilt. He could have beat up the guy in the bar without killing him, and those bullies, he simply did not because standing down was just easier, he knew it was the better way. And people say "because it would raise questions" no it wouldn't...he is 6ft tall and huge, he could beat up people no questions asked.

Im saying that the entire scene was intended to give a reason for why clark doesnt kill. according to Snyder and Goyer, clark doesnt kill because he is scared of having to go through the mental pain of killing a person. That is guilt and shows that Goyer and Snyder dont know what Superman stands for. They were so focused on makeing him supposedly "relatable" that they forgot what made the character cool in the first place.

P.S. i personally enjoyed this movie. I understand that its a different version of Superman. But i definitly dont want this version to translate to the comics.

seems to me this version has already translated into the comics, the comics one is punch first ask questions later....and I don't know how many parademons he killed in that Justice League story. Seems to me the superman you don't want to carry over is already there but even worse. Unless you preferred that mouthy obnoxious one that mocked and taunted authority?

Seriously!! people blindly forget the first 8 issues of action comics and then fast forward five years to the idealistic superman and everyones fine and dandy......this movie was an origin as well, he's not even superman yet,he's a guy discovering his heritage protecting his new home from the threat of his old one,And he's not an a$$ in the slightest,he handed himself over to the army for gods sake, this nitpicking is getting out of hand. everyones just forgotten he's been in a sense Superman for like a week or less.

#10 Posted by UltimateSMfan (1542 posts) - - Show Bio

@gerald said:
@ultimatesmfan said:

@joshmightbe said:

I think the whole too much action complaint is weird because prior to this everyone was bitching about Superman not having enough action in his movies.

lol i kno right...

except for maybe the zod death Which is Highly debatable

That is what I want to debate. Did it "ruin" the movie for you?

Not in the slightest,keeping with the direction of the story and plot,it wasn't That much of a shock at all. its so lame people bashing the entire movie cuz of one detail,which if one paid attention and followed what was happening,would make perfect sense. and i commend the writers for having the stones to put Supes in that position which apparently he should never be in acc to some fans which i think is really stupid. anyway i don't kno how this is any less of "our" superman as people are saying.