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#1 Posted by Ultimate_Riddler (289 posts) - - Show Bio

Hmm. Would removing Taskmaster's gear and/or giving team 1 prep even the odds any?

#2 Posted by Ultimate_Riddler (289 posts) - - Show Bio

@Strider92 said:

@ChaosMarvel said:

Novel Kharn is a totally different beast. He has the durability to stand up to 100+ tonners. He stood back and just let Angron beat him up. Angron was seen lifting 2 thousand tons in the battle of Terra and Angron couldn't even get Kharn to stay on the floor and he just stood there taking every blow without retaliation and that was without his demon armor. That was just standard pre-chaos Kharn. Current Kharn makes him look like a puppy. Due to his healing factor I doubt anyone on there other team can take Kharn 1v1. 100+ tonners can't beat him down.

While most of this is true. Kharn was not unhurt by Angrons attacks he was bleeding badly and had he wanted Angron could have most likely killed him but when he saw how determined Kharn was made him his second in command out of respect. Another thing to take into account is that while Kharn's durability to blunt trauma is good penetrative is another matter. He let Angron lay down 100 ton+ punches on him and yet he was knocked unconscious when that tank tore out his chest. Kharn is still vulnerable to getting his head chopped off or cut in two. The bleach team is also faster than him which may allow them to get in the necessary hit. It's the same principle as Hulk. If you punch him that won't do a thing. you slice his head off however its a different ball-game.

Hasn't Hulk survived being burnt down to the flesh and many other rather nasty things? If Kharn has a healing factor now on top of what he already accomplished, I can't see the Bleach team getting in that many powerful hits, especially not with three other dangerous opponents fighting alongside him.

#3 Posted by Ultimate_Riddler (289 posts) - - Show Bio

@Strider92 said:

Gotta love how you make a thread and it only comes to life 2 weeks later lol!

Haha. Very true. Too bad this turned out to be a mismatch. I admit, I knew nothing of Kharn until I asked a friend who knows lots about Warhammer. He even said this version of Batman seems perfect for the Warhammer universe, and that's not even getting into what Dante and Vergil could do.

#4 Posted by Ultimate_Riddler (289 posts) - - Show Bio

@beautifulrevery said:

@Ultimate_Riddler said:

@beautifulrevery said:

@Ultimate_Riddler said:

@beautifulrevery said:

@Ultimate_Riddler: None of their abilities are magic based

That's heavily debatable. Kido IS magic for starters.

Kido may be referred to as spells but it isn't magic. It's the use of reiryoku to initiate an affect that can be controlled better through the use of an incantation for less experience users. Kido is again, spiritual power. NOT magic.

Doesn't matter since Kharn negates spiritual things as well. You said you read up on Kharne's blessing, but where? Link me to that please.

Warhammer wiki, forums, etc. I don't have the time to go back and grab all the links but that's essentially where I got my info from.

@ChaosMarvel: If all that is true than the OP made a spite battle. Everyone else is useless and Kharn can solo the entire bleach universe since no one can use their powers. No one in the Bleach universe is a 100+ tonner(as has been shown currently) so there's literally no way the bleach team can win.

Agreed. This is a murderstomp.

#5 Posted by Ultimate_Riddler (289 posts) - - Show Bio

@ChaosMarvel said:

@beautifulrevery: Thats just tabletop rules which doesn't cover the extent of what the blessing can do. Kharn has appear in multiple novels and other literature. In Galaxy In Flames a Slaanesh demon tried to attack him spiritually and it did nothing. Ahzek a guy who can rip wholes in reality was also completely unable to effect Kharn in the novels. In the game it it says it makes him immune to pskers and force weapons because those are the only forms of attack available to use. In the expanded universe however its far beyond that.

For an example of powerscaling in lore and the novels Ahzek is capable of mindraping entire planets but in the game he's little better than a high level telepath. Because all their feats occur outside the game in the novels or literature those are the versions used in battle threads because if not you are using characters with no credible feats. Its like comparing Film Darth Vader to comic Vader they are on completely different levels of power.

Novel Kharn is a totally different beast. He has the durability to stand up to 100+ tonners. He stood back and just let Angron beat him up. Angron was seen lifting 2 thousand tons in the battle of Terra and Angron couldn't even get Kharn to stay on the floor and he just stood there taking every blow without retaliation and that was without his demon armor. That was just standard pre-chaos Kharn. Current Kharn makes him look like a puppy. Due to his healing factor I doubt anyone on there other team can take Kharn 1v1. 100+ tonners can't beat him down.

I'm relatively convinced that Kharn solos now. His teammates just make this an epic curbstomp.

#6 Posted by Ultimate_Riddler (289 posts) - - Show Bio

@beautifulrevery said:

@Ultimate_Riddler said:

@beautifulrevery said:

@Ultimate_Riddler: None of their abilities are magic based

That's heavily debatable. Kido IS magic for starters.

Kido may be referred to as spells but it isn't magic. It's the use of reiryoku to initiate an affect that can be controlled better through the use of an incantation for less experience users. Kido is again, spiritual power. NOT magic.

Doesn't matter since Kharn negates spiritual things as well. You said you read up on Kharne's blessing, but where? Link me to that please.

#7 Posted by Ultimate_Riddler (289 posts) - - Show Bio

@beautifulrevery said:

@Ultimate_Riddler: None of their abilities are magic based

That's heavily debatable. Kido IS magic for starters.

#8 Posted by Ultimate_Riddler (289 posts) - - Show Bio

@NeonGameWave said:

@Ultimate_Riddler: The problem is that the Bleach Team uses spiritual energy rather than sheer magic although they have kidos, and all are extremely fast as they are also hard to put down especially Aizen. He took the soul of a knocked out Batman and how is that supposed to affect a Shinigami?

#9 Posted by Ultimate_Riddler (289 posts) - - Show Bio

Kharn's blessing negates magic and I believe helps his teammates as well.

@NeonGameWave said:

@e3zombie: What can Batman 1 Million do to the Bleach team?

A device that can steal souls.
#10 Posted by Ultimate_Riddler (289 posts) - - Show Bio

@Equonox said:

Depends. If it's win by KO, now Nightcrawler could likely solo...don't think anyone could tag him, and he hits decently hard. Wolverine is the x-factor (no pun intended) here, simply because of his durability and familiarity w/ Nightcrawler. But, no adamantium + Nightcrawler just being too elusive means I still give it to team 2 pretty easily

Wolverine has adamantium.