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#1 Edited by Ultimate_Riddler (289 posts) - - Show Bio

Puppet. Easy.

Riddle me this! Why is Mark Hamill the perfect Joker?

#2 Posted by Ultimate_Riddler (289 posts) - - Show Bio

Bump. Curious to see if there is anyone else here with extensive knowledge on all these versions, or at least Shane McCarthy's rendition, as well as to garner more opinions.

#3 Posted by Ultimate_Riddler (289 posts) - - Show Bio

Batman destroys the opposition.

#4 Posted by Ultimate_Riddler (289 posts) - - Show Bio

@JohnnyGat said:

Way I see it if he conforms to a single mode of style of speech he loses that sense of a chaotic mind to him. The fact that it got you out of nowhere strengthens that this cursing that's out of character is in character. Meaning that Joker being out of character is him actually being in character to an extent.

This. I have studied Joker extensively in the last couple of years and I have come to this conclusion about him. True, it's really just different writers giving different interpretations of him, but the changes have been so drastic that it became a character trait in and of itself.

#5 Posted by Ultimate_Riddler (289 posts) - - Show Bio

@CadenceV2: I know, but I felt it worth pointing out every detail. I was originally going to also point out that using scans from the 60s for this debate was kind of pointless when Erik has done far more impressive things. Believe me, friend, I've got scan upon scan for Magneto. He's among my top favorite comic book characters of all time. Heck, my original user name on here was "Ultimate Magneto" (though make no mistake; I dislike the Ultimate universe.)

#6 Edited by Ultimate_Riddler (289 posts) - - Show Bio

@TheSecondOpinion: I know, but he mentions giving them "another demonstration of [his] power," then monologues how he is using that device in this second demonstration. Plus this isn't out of character since he has used power boosting devices in many other stories.

#7 Edited by Ultimate_Riddler (289 posts) - - Show Bio

@SupBatz:

What I'm about to say is not a definite, just a theory. Because of Mark Hamill's portrayal in the animated stories and animated movies, Joker cussing seems out of character since he never cussed in those instances. I can't even recall when Joker cursed in Tim Burton's or Nolan's flicks. Then again, lots of things don't get said or shown in a cartoon. Like people having intercourse, cussing, and gory violence - things we know happen in the real world. Like I said, this is more a theory than anything else, but it could just be nostalgia from the animated series that's making his cussing seem odd to you. What do you think?

#8 Edited by Ultimate_Riddler (289 posts) - - Show Bio

@CadenceV2 said:

@dondave: Does it matter?

He can in a instant collect enough metallic dust in the air to make a city spanning sign.....

Theres no stopping this.

Magneto used a machine to focus his powers during that scene. Not sure if that has any bearing on the debate - just thought I would point that out.

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#10 Posted by Ultimate_Riddler (289 posts) - - Show Bio

If it's purely fisticuffs, Joker takes it. If it's who is funnier or crazier, then Joker takes it. Lex Luthor for pretty much absolutely everything else. Joker's smart, clever, and can come up with great plans, but Luthor is honestly better and has far superior resources too.