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@supremehyperion: Yeah, i've been thinking the same thing. Reading the New Avengers I feel really lost from whats been going on outside of the New Avengers. I wish i knew what was going on in the big scheme of things. The New Avengers are currently chicken with their head's cut off. (I'm on Volume 3, right after Skaar shit on Osbournes "New Dark Avengers")
But they have like the most epic line-up ever; Iron Man and Cap really aren't needed. Just let me know what's going on, Bendis.

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@veshark: @veshark: Haha I read Bendis's Illuminati. Haven't read Hickmans. I've been trying to just ride this New Avengers roller coaster, but it looks like im going to have to switch to Marvel Now.

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@hewhosees: haha wow, someone is butt-hurt.
First of all, your mom is not fictional superhero, Tony Stark is.
Two, I do not know what your point was there.
Three, (three comes after two, btw) I don't really know what you are arguing at this point. I said, "i guess it's [PTSD] not a stretch."
I think you are trying to apply comics/superheros "physics" to real life. IMO, Tony Stark is someone that wouldn't suffer from PTSD, especially before Black Widow and BBanner. I think a lot of people would agree with that.
But that topic is kind of beside the point, I made a 8 point list that didn't even touch on that...

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@spawn92: best avengers roster out there atm?

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@nathaniel_christopher:

Completely forgot, and agree with your #9. In the beginning it was almost appearing as Tony was becoming more suit than man, (with him wearing the suit around the house and all) which was pretty cool/interesting to me. That was never really touched on again.

Then they started with the PTSD, and Tony feeling the need to protect Pepper. Okay, that makes sense to me; nightmares and such. Tony Stark actually having a flaw.

But then the kid would just mention New York and Tony would like completely fall apart. And what comes next? Jokes of course.

Tony being an alcoholic would have been better than having PTSD IMO, but this Iron Man series is too late to implement that, and the end of the movie seemed as though Tony would be 'over' the PTSD. You cant become and get rid of alcoholism in one movie (i guess you cant get rid of PTSD that quickly either, but that's beside the point).

Tony's personality leans more to alcoholism because alcoholism is self-destructive. "Perfect" people like him tend to have self-destructive behavior. I can't really see him having PTSD, but i guess it's not a stretch.

You can't see him having PTSD after nearly dying, fighting an alien invasion in New York with a god, super soldier, and jolly green giant at his side, and seeing an alien invasion on space right before he almost died?

Tony Stark? No, not really.
And if we are using your generalization, every superhero should/would have PTSD.
Every superhero; almost dies, sees gods, sees Hulk, fights weird monsters, they don't all have PTSD ha.

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@nathaniel_christopher: Completely forgot, and agree with your #9. In the beginning it was almost appearing as Tony was becoming more suit than man, (with him wearing the suit around the house and all) which was pretty cool/interesting to me. That was never really touched on again.
Then they started with the PTSD, and Tony feeling the need to protect Pepper. Okay, that makes sense to me; nightmares and such. Tony Stark actually having a flaw.
But then the kid would just mention New York and Tony would like completely fall apart. And what comes next? Jokes of course.
Tony being an alcoholic would have been better than having PTSD IMO, but this Iron Man series is too late to implement that, and the end of the movie seemed as though Tony would be 'over' the PTSD. You cant become and get rid of alcoholism in one movie (i guess you cant get rid of PTSD that quickly either, but that's beside the point).
Tony's personality leans more to alcoholism because alcoholism is self-destructive. "Perfect" people like him tend to have self-destructive behavior. I can't really see him having PTSD, but i guess it's not a stretch.

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@soduh2: i agree. idk where they are going with TS and PP in the future, but maybe this could be some funny insight on how he would feel about having his own child? idk, im digging deep on that one becaus i thought the kid was alright.

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Just finished New Avengers Vol 3.
Gosh, this was completely terrible. Obsourne escapes from jail. Again. Osbourne creates another group of avengers. Again.
Seriously, this is the best that Bendis has to offer?
And I don't understand why the public just lets Osbourne do whatever he wants, or why the police/government doesn't care what he does.
"Osbourne escaped from jail again? Who cares, lets catch the Avengers."

If it wasn't for Luke Cage/Jessica, i would have stopped reading this a long time ago.
You would think with badasses like DD, Wolv, Iron Fist, Cage, and Thing that the story couldn't get any better, but instead they get beat by ragtag villains at every corner, letting problems land in their lap, complaining the entire time. I won't even start on how bad they make Dr. Stange look.
Aside from Cage and Spidey, most of these Avengers are so uncharacteristically portrayed.
Wolvs needs to peace out of there asap. Heck, i'm about to peace out of the New Avengers asap.
Haven't read AvX yet, but hopefully it's a lot better.

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1) The Mandarin:
I won't elaborate on this.

2) The amount of jokes:
At one point, I felt like i was watching Scary Movie: Superhero Edition. I thought i was maybe watching an Iron Man spoof. Even Spiderman doesn't make that many jokes.
I love some jokes to break the tension, but even after Pepper "died" Tony was dropping one liners. Wayyyyy, over the top. Even the Banner cameo was just a joke.

3) Inconsistencies in the power/convenient power:
I'll just group these two together. At the beginning of the movie, Killian's henchman survives a huge explosion. When Stark is at the bar, you can assume the female henchman dies during an explosion. During the end of the movie, Pepper survives a massive "explosion." On the plane, Stark kills Killian's henchman with a blast to the chest, while Iron Pat doesn't even phase 2 henchmen with multiple bullets to their chest.
Lastly, Killian is much much more powerful than any of his men injected with the same virus. I guess this is because he created it? It's never explained, but I guess i can live with that. What I can't live with is how he "gains" powers at his convenience.
Super healing factor? Okay, thats fine. Super strength? Okay, i guess that can be part of the healing factor somehow. Super speed? Uhhh. Okay i can't explain this one. Maybe something to deal with the healing factor? Someone needs to tell Wolverine about this. Fire breathing? Not really sure where this came from.
Not to mention the fact that one touch to any Mark suit by anyone infected with the virus completely crippled/rendered the suit useless.
According to this, Im convinced Johnny Storm would demolish Iron Man.

4) Iron Patriot:
Why was he even in this movie? The 10 year old child had a bigger role than him.

5) Avengers:
There are about five Avengers references throughout the movie. Tony Stark is presumed dead by the public. Do the Avengers not care? What are they doing? Really wish they would have made this clear. Just make up some BS excuse and ill be satisfied.

6) Tony Stark/Iron Man:
This is NOT an 'Iron Man' movie. This movie should be called 'Tony Stark'. Now, I understand they are showing the psychological side of Tony, but they really nerfed his suits in this. The public is obviously driving/taking over Iron Man at this point, and usually the public don't know what they want. The public ruined Spiderman, but if its Tony Stark's humor they want, it's Tony Stark's humor they'll get.

7) Killian:
Not sure if I missed this, but what was his motive? I understand he didn't like Tony, but aside from that. I heard him say something about controlling the war on terror, but I'm not sure what he was wanting to do. And then he was in cahoots with the VP. So..... did he want to rule the world or something? I completely missed what he was planning on doing. Maybe it wasn't explained.

8) Raiding the Compound:
Tony Stark raiding the "military" compound with some homemade weapons was kind of silly. This is something only Bruce Wayne would be able to pull off.
I also don't know why Stark didn't just buy a couple of guns in the hick town he was in.
I guess this wasn't a huge deal, but it was really silly to me.

I'm sure I've forgotten a few things since the premiere, but these are the few that stuck out in my mind

Conclusion
I DID find the movie entertaining, but it had the same entertainment value to me as a movie like Fast and Furious or Transformers. Iron Man 3 didn't have a progressive story aside from Starks mental battles, which took all of about 10 minutes. This movie would have made a decent sequel, but for a threequel, no way.