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Occupy Wall Street continues

    

Did Anyone hear about the Wall Street Protest Today???

 
*****EDIT****: Some of the pages have a lot of linked videos, you may want to wait for the page to load then double click the desired video and go to the Youtube link to view it as it may crash your browser here on the vine. I have received requests to simply post links to the video but it would cause valid material to be overlooked so I have chosen to post as many videos as necessary. 
  
  
  
    
     
    
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Some Dude just starts pounding a cop in that first one.

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AMERICA!

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glad to see people taking action, sadly nothing ever comes out of these protests except violence

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@I'maDC/ImageGuy!:  
Is full of sheeple and cowards. 
@cattlebattle:  
Revolutions start this way.  
https://occupywallst.org/
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Valiant, if futile.

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@turoksonofstone said:
@I'maDC/ImageGuy!:  
Is full of sheeple and cowards. 
@cattlebattle:  Revolutions start this way. 
Thats debatable.......Ghandi didn't think so
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@turoksonofstone: Eh, just people who don't care.

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@turoksonofstone: revolutions that always end up with people coming to power who will become corrupt and start the whole damned cycle all over again because human beings are predictable, selfish and stupid

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@joshmightbe@I'maDC/ImageGuy!@cattlebattle@Shadow_Thief:  
 
The fact that we are a "FREE" people 
and the media is withholding coverage doesn't trouble anyone? 
Your fellow Americans getting stomped on physically now rather than financially doesn't Irk you in the least? 
Those cops work for NYC and get paid with our money. WE PAY THEM for this?
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Y'know It does Irk me. 
That did not look like freedom of speech, the right to assemble or like cops serving and protecting to me. 
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@turoksonofstone said:

Some Dude just starts pounding a cop in that first one.

Is that the first incident? I can't make it out in the crowd. So this looks like wayyy more than 300 people now.

.....Free pizza?

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Thank you so much for these videos.
I don't think I impact people like you do.
People have become lazy and depend of video, 
heck control with Cr@p on TV that rots minds.
But you found some great stuff to show "Freedom is not free".

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@turoksonofstone: its not that it doesn't bother me its just that its nothing new and it won't change anything because those in power won't allow it so they'll end this and then they'll buy off the public with something new. To paraphrase George Carlin, This nation sold its soul a long time ago and we were bought cheap. They'll just throw out some shiny new technology or some worthless celebrity and all will be forgotten and the parade of stupidity will keep marching on

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@turoksonofstone said:

Revolutions start this way.
https://occupywallst.org/

Revolutions start with defined goals and a willingness to see it through to the end.

From what I've seen these protestors don't have the defined goals, they are protesting everything under the sun.

You asked if it irks anyone about police using violence against these protesters and I will say it irks me, but the problem with most videos is you get the aftermath, the police using their tasers, batons, or guns.. you rarely get why? Are their power mad psycho cops, yes, but are there also people who openly instigate and egg the police on just to make them look bad.. the answer to that is yes also.

Also what I really despise about these protesters is comparing themselves to the protestors in the middle east and the "Arab Spring". Those people where being killed on mass for just speaking out against their government. Last I checked this government isn't sending out death squads to kill anyone speaking out against them. Hell the only person that comes to mind that is currently being held for doing anything is Bradley Manning, but you don't hear anything about him or the inhuman way he is being treated and held without trial or military tribunal.

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@Nova`Prime` said:

@turoksonofstone said:

Revolutions start this way.
https://occupywallst.org/

Revolutions start with defined goals and a willingness to see it through to the end.

From what I've seen these protestors don't have the defined goals, they are protesting everything under the sun.

You asked if it irks anyone about police using violence against these protesters and I will say it irks me, but the problem with most videos is you get the aftermath, the police using their tasers, batons, or guns.. you rarely get why? Are their power mad psycho cops, yes, but are there also people who openly instigate and egg the police on just to make them look bad.. the answer to that is yes also.

Also what I really despise about these protesters is comparing themselves to the protestors in the middle east and the "Arab Spring". Those people where being killed on mass for just speaking out against their government. Last I checked this government isn't sending out death squads to kill anyone speaking out against them. Hell the only person that comes to mind that is currently being held for doing anything is Bradley Manning, but you don't hear anything about him or the inhuman way he is being treated and held without trial or military tribunal.

It's been a week they are still there. 
 
I believe the original goal was to protest the lack of arrests relating to the financial crisis, and to Organize further activity beyond this Event. Similar protests are occurring simultaneously elsewhere in the world but we are being blacked out. 
 
These cops are obviously there to break up a peaceful protest. If you want to call the above videos "Aftermath" I'm going to guess you did not watch them. 
 
Citizens fighting an unjust system Identify with each other it makes sense to me. 
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@Edamame said:

This is brave and courageous, but I doubt that it will change anything. The people who have the power (socioeconomic, etc.) don't want to lose it, and they will do anything to keep it.

true.

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Their efforts are valiant, but futile.

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They can make all the speeches they want but honestly historically speaking peaceful protest has very rarely changed anything

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so........why are they occupying Wall Street?

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With some of the stuff these cops have to deal with during these "peaceful" protests, it doesn't surprise me that they don't have a lot of patience for with these people. These protestors are almost never entirely peaceful and never fully cooperate with the police.

The video of the guy with the bandanna getting thrown to the ground seemed weird, the cop pushes the guy back after some thing happened that wasn't quite caught on the camera and then cop and the guy share words that i can't quite hear, it seemed to me that the guy was told to get back and didn't get back far enough. It may have been something the guy said to the cop. I wish the individual cops would address this stuff, not like a full press deal but maybe some small videos or written statements.

The girl that got maced, no offense, seemed a little too dramatic with her banshee shrieking. I'm sure it hurts but she was screaming as if she was in child birth. Now i saw the video but it doesn't clearly show the whole context of the situation, why would the cop spray her for no reason when he knows cameras are all around? Does he really want to ruin his reputation? Get his identity and address posted on the internet for everyone to see? I'm thinking she provoked them on purpose, so she can get cops caught on camera doing something like this.

Also to post the identity and address of these cops really pisses me off, this doesn't just endanger the cop's life but the lives of his family. That may not be their actual intent but it's the possibility of violent action, this information will go to pissed off protestors who now have a target for their aggression.

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@HumanNumber:  
I doubt endangering the officer's family was their intention. More likely it was intended to discourage police in these situations from getting overly-aggressive with the potential threat of having their ID's exposed, pretty sure NYPD wear name tags anyway though.  Plenty of cops dealing with overly-aggressive protesters  handled themselves with class and the video shows this as well.  
 
The girl that got Maced? It's in pretty plain B&W context for all to see. And I saw enough to know several officers had her surrounded and under control with that weird Planet of the Apes fishnet action already. The Mace was necessary how exactly?   
  
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so........why are they occupying Wall Street?
  
  
“I have spent over 20 years fighting Wall Street, General Motors, health insurance companies, the whole lot of them. A lot of that has been alone or with just a very few people. It warms my heart to see all of you here.” – Michael Moore
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@joshmightbe said:

They can make all the speeches they want but honestly historically speaking peaceful protest has very rarely changed anything

*cough*CIVIL RIGHTS!
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@TheJeffHimself: I said rarely, not never. How bout you read the whole comment before making snide comments

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@joshmightbe: Singing Revolution, Velvet Revolution, Women of Liberia Mass Action for Peace. Should I keep going?
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@TheJeffHimself: How many of those lead to any lasting changes? I'm not disputing whether or not peaceful protests happen I'm questioning their effectiveness

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@joshmightbe: The Singing Revolution lead to Lithuania, Latvia, and Estonia gaining their independence form the Soviet Union. The Velvet Revolution resulted in Czechoslovakia overthrowing it's communist government. The Women of Liberia Mass Action for Peace Ended the second Liberian civil war.
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@TheJeffHimself: I'll give you those but these are far from being the norm, most peaceful protests end in a bunch of people saying their going to do something that never gets done so while yes on some occasions it is effective most of the time it solves nothing

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@joshmightbe: O Ye of little faith.
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@TheJeffHimself: there are massive amounts of evidence that humans are self destructive bastards on a suicidal run, with only a small number of isolated incidents to say other wise, I don't lack faith I just know people

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I am a staunch supporter of these protests. But, in the interest of philosophical debate, let's play devil's advocate and call it a futile gesture. There are also futile gestures being made at this very moment in Spain, Israel, Greece, Bolivia, etc. The Occupy protests are spreading to other portions of the country. They have even incorporated death penalty protests in Georgia following the Troy Davis controversy. Does their eclecticism make them directionless? Perhaps, but then too the U.S. Constitution with its broad abstracts and numerous bullet points is also directionless. Let's say that I believe it's all futile (which I do not), if small pockets of "futility" continue to grow at this rate, will it not become clear that the majority is torn between political despondency and outright rage towards aging systems? A majority in a given conflict has, logically, the advantage. So do these protesters, that represent a growing majority, not have, logically speaking, the advantage in any endeavor they undertake? Let's attempt the devil's advocate argument once more and say that this fragmented group is not the majority. While, they are obviously not the majority of New York City's population, they could be the majority of New York City's opinions. Why not? Is it because that notion contradicts what the media tells us? Is it because of the neglect of coverage in our "news" ? I can assure you that these outlets will more readily provide information about a Kardashian than a protester, but are the wealthy celebrity class the majority? Certainly not. Then, it stands to reason that in the silence, in the darkness, in the shadows and static between the channels their exists a growing number of people unhappy with the status quo. They are the ones that will erode the empire with their "futility". The system itself and the powers that be acknowledge its inevitable self-destruction, for this America, this new Rome has spread itself far too thin. What is established afterwards could be worse, it could be better, but it will be OURS.

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Wall Street Mocks Protesters By Drinking Champagne 2011 by Alien Disclosure Group UK StephenHannardADGUK's Channel 

Box Score:

OWS Protesters Arrested: 141 (+/- 20)

Wall Street Banksters Arrested: 0

People Power Hours (PPH)* since Day 1 - NYC only: 429,000

Donations to OWS Funds: $47,000

Growth Continues in NYC and Nationally:

 

Overnight occupiers now represent 26 states of the union including Alaska.   OWS has raised over $47,000 for its general, media team, electric generator and transportation funds.

  
          http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ARQSWZrOSlk#! (Blocked Speech by Dr. Cornell West) 
 
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=VQNtI60fw90 (More Blocked Video) 
  
  

Posted Sept. 26, 2011, 6:57 p.m. EST by OccupyWallSt

Anyone with eyes open knows that the gangsterism of Wall Street -- financial institutions generally -- has caused severe damage to the people of the United States (and the world). And should also know that it has been doing so increasingly for over 30 years, as their power in the economy has radically increased, and with it their political power. That has set in motion a vicious cycle that has concentrated immense wealth, and with it political power, in a tiny sector of the population, a fraction of 1%, while the rest increasingly become what is sometimes called "a precariat" -- seeking to survive in a precarious existence. They also carry out these ugly activities with almost complete impunity -- not only too big to fail, but also "too big to jail."

The courageous and honorable protests underway in Wall Street should serve to bring this calamity to public attention, and to lead to dedicated efforts to overcome it and set the society on a more healthy course.


 

Noam Chomsky

Posted Sept. 26, 2011, 3:53 p.m. EST by OccupyWallSt

Late last night we found out which white collar officer had maced our innocent protesters. We did not release this information as we had not yet come to a consensus on how to approach the situation. Earlier today we discovered that this information had already been released.

Yesterday, an NYPD spokesperson implied that we had edited the video to remove incriminating actions on the part of our peaceful protesters. Here are a few different angles and cuts of the event that we had not previously released:

As you can tell, we did not need to edit the video to implicate this officer in a gross and unconscionable crime.

This is the man who maced these young women without provocation.

His name is Anthony Bologna. We demand that he is charged for his crimes. We demand that he receives jail time.

We demand that Police Commissioner Raymond W. Kelly resigns. Not only can he not control his most senior officers, he is involved in actively sheltering them from receiving any punishment.

We demand that Mayor Michael Bloomberg address our General Assembly and apologize for the police brutality and the cover-up that followed.

This was an attempt to make us weak, this was an attempt to destroy or derail our message, our conversation. It has not succeeded. We have grown, we will grow. Today we received unconfirmed reports that over one hundred blue collar police refused to come into work in solidarity with our movement. These numbers will grow. We are the 99 percent. You will not silence us.

Please call:
Mayor Bloomberg: +1 (212) 639-9675 or +1 (212) 788-2958
Deputy Commissioner of Public Information: +1 (646) 610-6700
NYPD Switchboard: +1 (646) 610-5000
First precinct: +1 (212) 334-0611

Make our voice heard. Make sure that the world knows that everyone deserves equal protection, service, and punishment.

Remain true to our principles of non-violence.

UPDATE: 4:51 PM EST Two more videos of Officer Bologna senselessly attacking peaceful protesters.

Boston Review reports on being maced by Anthony Bologna 



OWS reports they need donations of the following materials: warm clothing, sweat shirts and pants, socks, NYC Metrocards for public transportation, towels, blankets, basic hygiene products and first aid supplies including vitamins.

 

Link: Occupy Wall Street Food Fund Donations HERE

Link: Occupy Wall Street Media Fund Donations HERE

Nonperishable and Money Order Donations: The UPS Store, Occupy Wall Street, 118A Fulton St. #205, New York, NY 10038

NYPD continue to deny occupiers in Liberty Plaza, a.k.a. Zuccotti Park the option of setting up tents.   No further moves to oust the Occupy Wall Street (OWS) have occurred since the attempt to circulate an eviction notice days ago.   OWS is making efforts to communicate with the owners of occupied Zuccotti Park Brookfield Properties (listed on the NYSE as BPO).


The Spray Meister - NYPD Deputy Inspector Anthony Bologna by RightWingWatch MA

Participation increases to over 2,000 protesters at any one time during work week days and to nearly 5,000 on weekends.   Even this slow growth is an incredible feat considering the fact that this 24/7 event has endured 13 straight days.

OWS's Community Outreach team has been canvassing the areas of the outer boroughs.  

The Labor outreach team has reported they have been inundated with requests from various unions around the city.   On Monday, OWS rallied with the American Postal Workers Union (APWU) at a mid-town Manhattan USPS facility.   Another joint union rally is planned with District Council 37, NYC largest municipal public employees' union with 175,000 members.

Additionally, occupations are now ongoing in Los Angeles, CA and Chicago, IL.


Unarmed protesters pepper sprayed in NY, Sept 24, 2011. Image via Death and Taxe by Image via Death and Taxe

Nationwide, affiliated OWC movement events are beginning in Lexington, KY; Kansas City, MO; Washington D.C.; Sacramento, San Jose and San Francisco, CA; Las Vegas NV, Houston, and Dallas, TX this coming week.   Philadelphia, PA, Boston, MA, Seattle, WA and Tampa, FL are holding planning meetings in the coming days.  

Reports that over one hundred rank and file NYPD police officers are refusing over-time in solidarity with Occupy Wall Street remain unconfirmed. 

And Courtesy  of @Glitch_Spawn

Have at look at what a friend and I dug up a few minutes ago...

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Can someone succinctly tell me what their goals are besides just bringing attention to the fact some businessmen aren't in jail for the crimes they committed?

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@gangly:  
The police are not protecting the people, they are protecting our corporate masters, yes? Occupy Portland begins on October 6, there are occupations happening all over the world, and will be happening even in Tulsa and Little Rock and El Paso. We are the 99%, time to rise up and tell the 1% to play fair, and to pay their share
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whats with the Guy Fawkes masks??...they watched V for Vendetta and said "thats awesome, derp"
 
Guy Fawkes was trying to blow up a Protestant controlled Parliment to install a Catholic controlled totality. So these people want to put the rich in jail...to replace them with more corrupt rich people??
 
I'm very into the cause and respect these people (most of them) but, get some creativity will ya. 
 
And Michael Moores there?? ugh...

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Lovely we haven't heard jack s##t about this on the news, huh? I don't it will do anything but at least some people are actually trying to something now so that makes me happy. I had heard about this before. One of my sisters friends is there actually.

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@turoksonofstone said:

The police are not protecting the people, they are protecting our corporate masters, yes? Occupy Portland begins on October 6, there are occupations happening all over the world, and will be happening even in Tulsa and Little Rock and El Paso. We are the 99%, time to rise up and tell the 1% to play fair, and to pay their share

1. The police ARE the people. You think these cops are rich? Are they "the man" keeping everyone down? They're just men and women who's job it is to try and protect people and arrest people who have broken the law. Of course some of them are jerks, just like some of the protesters are jerks, but this seems like an EXTREMELY volatile situation, and it's a given that some violence will occur. Should justice be sought? Absolutely. But making it seem like this is innocent people fighting the gestapo or something is grossly dehumanizing and shows just as much lack of empathy as the folks you're apparently protesting against.

2. So the entire point of all this is to say that the wealthiest 1% of people should pay more taxes? Really?! Seems like a little overkill to get a point across which everyone in the world already understands. This is a spectacle to make angry kids feel like they're doing something meaningful. Not a way to effect positive change in the world. If you want to change the system, vote with your dollars, and take it down from the inside.

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1. The Police ARE the People. Indeed they are. They are also NOT members of the "1%" , Both True. However it is Impossible to deny that the Police nationwide serve as anything but a tool for the Elites and Corporate Masters that Own/Run America. We are not the ones they serve and protect. Also the Police have killed far too many Innocent and unarmed citizens and have long since betrayed the Public Trust. Regarding the Protesters They don't seem like Innocent people, They Are Innocent people and they are also Brave. There are a great Number of Americans of every type organizing as we speak. Enough is Enough.  
 
2. It's about equal jail time and equal rights for all regardless of economic background. They would also like to see arrests stemming from the Financial Crisis perpetrated by those in Power. They would like Corporations to pay much more taxes. They would like the richest 1% to pay their fair share. They will speak with their $$, just wait. "Take it down from the inside" LMAO, that was already done by those in Power.