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#1  Edited By Turlast

One of the things I've always wondered about was how Green Goblin and Hobgoblin compared to Spider-Man. Most of the general evidence is that they're around the same power after taking the formula. The odd part here is Kraven. He wanted to outdo Spider-Man in terms of being Spider-Man (Kraven's Last Hunt), but I was never under the impression that he had comparable power.

Today I'd like to take a look at most of the statements about their powers in comparison to each other and Spidey.

Kraven

In the story "Beware the rage of a desperate man", Jason Macendale was given an elixir that gave him powers similar to Kraven:

http://i.imgur.com/Dm7ZcUd

http://i.imgur.com/Gbln3SI.jpg

I know Kraven easily crushed Vermin in Last Hunt, but I never thought it was because Kraven himself possessed strength anywhere close to Spidey's. I always assumed he was in the 1-2 ton range rather than 10. Or he did a great job in never displaying his incredible power for whatever reason.

Harry Osborn

Harry was shown to be on the same level as Spidey as well with his upgraded version of the formula:

http://i.imgur.com/P5bOsHD.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/nEIbGvt.jpg

Lefty Donovan

Lefty Hobgoblin was another who was said to be about as strong as the Green Goblin:

https://i.imgur.com/3dO53SF.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/6sxPbAf.jpg

The main issue with Lefty was that he still had the side-effects from the original Green Goblin formula. He was also nothing more than a test subject.

Roderick Kingsley

Kingsley seemed to eliminate those side-effects and became as strong (or stronger) as the Green Goblin:

https://imgur.com/XCcy3ae.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/QqNUWmb.jpg

Norman also noted that they were "evenly matched" during their encounter:

https://i.imgur.com/sqfoBom.jpg

Jason Macendale

When N'astirh turned Macendale into a demon, he was far more powerful than before:

http://i.imgur.com/utuxJ4M.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/7W4RKAi.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/J4Rfcab.jpg

The funny thing is even though he was greatly enhanced with the demonic power, Demogoblin was later shown to be completely powerless against a Macendale that was said to be around Green Goblin's level of power after taking Kraven's elixir. It's odd.

Now Cybergoblin seemed to be Macendale's most powerful state:

https://i.imgur.com/98h6iyG.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/eCM7czp.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/6SgmXPq.jpg

While he caught Riley by surprise, the dominance was quite clear.

Overall, there are instances where it seems like all of the Goblins are comparable in power, but there are others where it seems like there's some form superiority. Which Goblin do you guys believe is the strongest? Or is there not a strongest one?

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#3  Edited By Turlast

Spider-Man. Too strong and fast here. If Spidey is being a wise-ass, he could take a few hits.
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#4  Edited By Turlast

Carnage would need to seriously be off his game, and Cap would need to be above his A game to actually win, really.  
 
And I need a memory refresh: When did Cap beat Carnage? I somewhat remember it, but I'm drawing a blink.
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#5  Edited By Turlast

Um, Hulk with ease. Deadpool has no business being in this fight. Now if it was Grey Hulk...
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#6  Edited By Turlast

Wait, what? How is his peak abilities beyond DD's again?
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#7  Edited By Turlast

The Red Skull would wipe him out with his smoke attack from his cigar. 
 
If that's too much, he'd tool him in H2H.
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#8  Edited By Turlast

Cap is really outmatched here. He can't even beat Spidey, so he ain't touching a fully focused Carnage.
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#9  Edited By Turlast

And DD could knock his ass out with the billy club, too; nevermind the pressure point techniques.
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#10  Edited By Turlast

I'd give it to Team 1 after a tough bout. Panther would fight Bats to a standstill, and once DD handles Nightwing, they'd jump Bats and win.