Time to make the Cut (DC 52 preliminary)

 Its the month of November, Almost all the titles that have come out are into their 3rd issue, with still another week coming up of Superman, Flash, Blackhawks and Green Lantern New Guardians just to name a few that still need to have there third. The time has come for all of us as well as DC comics to make the decision on what stays and what goes. Now to save argument and heart ache in trying to remember the entire list of the ongoing titles from DC lets recap on the ongoing titles.
 .... JUSTICE LEAGUE #1

WONDER WOMAN 


AQUAMAN 


THE FLASH 


THE FURY OF FIRESTORM 


THE SAVAGE HAWKMAN 


GREEN ARROW 


JUSTICE LEAGUE INTERNATIONAL 


MISTER TERRIFIC 


CAPTAIN ATOM 


DC UNIVERSE PRESENTS 


GREEN LANTERN 

GREEN LANTERN CORPS
 

GREEN LANTERN: THE NEW GUARDIANS

RED LANTERNS


 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

BATMAN


DETECTIVE COMICS 


BATMAN & ROBIN


BATMAN: THE DARK KNIGHT 


BIRDS OF PREY 


CATWOMAN 


BATGIRL 


BATWOMAN 


NIGHTWING 


RED HOOD AND THE OUTLAWS 


BATWING 


SWAMP THING


ANIMAL MAN 


JUSTICE LEAGUE DARK


DEMON KNIGHTS 


FRANKENSTEIN, AGENT OF SHADE


RESURRECTION MAN 
I, VAMPIRE


VOODOO 
LEGION LOST 
LEGION OF SUPER-HEROES 
TEEN TITANS 
STATIC SHOCK 


HAWK & DOVE 


STORMWATCH 


BLACKHAWKS 


SGT. ROCK AND THE MEN OF WAR 


ALL-STAR WESTERN 


DEATHSTROKE


GRIFTER


OMAC


SUICIDE SQUAD


BLUE BEETLE 


ACTION COMICS 


SUPERMAN


SUPERGIRL


SUPERBOY
 

The Breakdown:


  So that we have the list its a break down time on what is pretty much going to hit the perverbial comic book curb. This part is based on pure speculation based on sales and how well the series can hold itself up on its own. 
 
  Batman:Dark Knight or Batman & Robin: With the strain of keeping up with bat titles, one of the biggest for the bat-titles themselves is an actual batman title. There are many out there who are not fans of Damian's character working with bruce. at the same time, Ive gotten complaints on how Dark Knight series fits with the rest of the bat-verse. With Batman and Robin selling more in there first and second issues than batman dark knight, based on sales Dark knight might get the boot if not little later than the others.
 
   Batwing: I was skeptical about a series about african-batman. but the series has shown that having an african batman is needed especially when there is apparently so much violence in one continent. But in terms of sales its first issue was great but has quickly died or people have lost interest in the series. Sales would suggest this bat is going to hit the cave floor maybe within the next couple of months.
 
   Blue Beetle: The series itself has been a big interest to many for its first issue, but to many fans still hold much animosity to this character as it is not Ted Kord, While reading this series it seems to play on some stereo types of latin american characters. This factor might be detouring people from really getting into the series while at the same time few comments have come in that its a series that is really fleshing out the blue beetle character.
 
   Captain Atom: I was expecting more from this series, the story is good, but the character barely holds a match (My Own Opinion), sales seem to suggest this is going to go itself into oblivion and make appearances in other series much like the older Captain Atom, it was a type of character who could not really hold his own for an ongoing series. But hopefully im wrong and the fandom comes through for this title.
 
   Mister Terrific: One of the core flops of this entire list. The character is just terrible by himself, and with those familiar with him in the JSA this was DC's attempt to bring back Mr.Terrific from the Golden Age into the modern. Sale even show no one really had any interest outside of collectors who figured the number 1 issue might be worth something in the future. HA!
 
   Men of War: Sorry to say, though I enjoy the revitalization of Sgt.Rock in a modern telling, its initial sales could not have carried it through the month of october and preliminary sales might suggest it would be going in the not to distant future. Which is a real shame cause as a reader I really enjoyed this series. 
 
   Static Shock: Is it just me or is just about any series starring an black hero seem to do poorly in sales? Makes me think they should have went with Steel in terms of a super. Static has had steady sales....low steady sales in the past 3 months. most people who have been reading the series were fans of the tv show back during the early 2000's 
 
   OMAC: This Kirby-esque style had not did as well as many would have hoped. it just goes to show that Jack Kirby's name or style does not carry as much weight anymore in the comic universe. another one of the big flops. OMAC is a series much like its predicessors will probably hit the collection shelf in trade paperback or hard cover very soon. 
 
   Resurrection Man: The character and powers are very interesting, but its story has been a slow start as it plays out like JJ Abrams LOST series. it runs from event to event without much of a clue to the main character or his powers. though this story seems to suggest something big about the character and a definite build in his powers the series itself has been a big flop in sales and has yet to catch on. While the series has potential it apparently needs time in order to really get the full scope of what it could be.
 
   Fury of Firestorm: Im a bit shocked that this series has not done as well as it should, but at the same time the team of Ethan and Gail have not really done the series justice. Firestorm in on himself is a powerful character that just seems that its trying to be brought down to our level. which is hard. sale seem to suggest a mid to low pace in sales. 
 
 That is it on my 10 titles that might get the can. Though this is based on my observation in sales as well as story and characters. Though how I wish they all could stay and everyone was reading all the comics they want. but not everything was meant to stay from this list and we all knew that going in. But everything is different in every other city. DC has to make the hard choice what to cut and what to stay.
 
  In the end if you could pick 10 titles to get the shaft from DC's New 52. What would you pick?
15 Comments
15 Comments
Posted by Jonny_Anonymous

If Blue Beetle, Men of War, Cap Atom or Batwing get canned I will burn this place to the ground.

Posted by Doctor!!!!!

I wish someone would sum up the entire 52 issues for me so I don't have to spend money by buying them or going on hours of interwebbing.

Posted by Trodorne
@spiderbat87 said:
If Blue Beetle, Men of War, Cap Atom or Batwing get canned I will burn this place to the ground.
Does that mean you will burn down your computer? lol. Which I hope you do neither.
Edited by The_Tree

I wouldn't mind if Fury of Firestorm, Resurrection Man, Hawk & Dove, Mister Terrific, Frankenstein: Agent of S.H.A.D.E., OMAC, Legion Lost, Red Lanterns, and Batman: The Dark Knight got cancelled.

Posted by Superguy0009e

i really want blue beetle to succeed

Posted by Larkin1388

IMO they can get rid of everything except Aquaman and Suicide Squad.

Posted by Jonny_Anonymous
@Trodorne said:
@spiderbat87 said:
If Blue Beetle, Men of War, Cap Atom or Batwing get canned I will burn this place to the ground.
Does that mean you will burn down your computer? lol. Which I hope you do neither.
Na I'm hiding in John Roods basement.
Posted by TheOptimist

@spiderbat87: Oh... *slowly begins to backspace "Men of War" out of the list... JK. Sorta.

But in all seriousness, my 10 right now... aside from going with the bottom sales figures... which I will still use as some limited guide...

Legion of Super-Heroes, um... Blackhawks... do I really have to do 10? Gosh... Static Shock... I can't do 10, sorry, I tried. I put Grifter, Resurrection Man, Men of War, Captain Atom, Legion Lost, Hawk & Dove and sorta Firestorm, Beetle, Deathstroke and Mister Terrific down... but the truth is that I've enjoyed every single one of these titles... some certainly may be weaker... some are just finding their feet... and some are just not my ballpark. I can't actually suggest canceling say Men of War, because that first issue was stellar and knocked me off my feet even though war comics aren't my thing. Sure I'm not enamored with the follow-ups... but I'm going to put off making any real suggestions of cuts until... March? March sounds reasonable. I take back all the above suggestions. Sorry, I'm a tad of a coward. What can I say, I like them all!

Posted by Trodorne
@TheOptimist: It was obvious to DC that they would not run 52 titles forever, but they wanted to get a scope of what type of series would work outside of the guaranteed hits (Aka; Batman)
Posted by Jonny_Anonymous
@TheOptimist said:

@spiderbat87: Oh... *slowly begins to backspace "Men of War" out of the list... JK. Sorta.

But in all seriousness, my 10 right now... aside from going with the bottom sales figures... which I will still use as some limited guide...

Legion of Super-Heroes, um... Blackhawks... do I really have to do 10? Gosh... Static Shock... I can't do 10, sorry, I tried. I put Grifter, Resurrection Man, Men of War, Captain Atom, Legion Lost, Hawk & Dove and sorta Firestorm, Beetle, Deathstroke and Mister Terrific down... but the truth is that I've enjoyed every single one of these titles... some certainly may be weaker... some are just finding their feet... and some are just not my ballpark. I can't actually suggest canceling say Men of War, because that first issue was stellar and knocked me off my feet even though war comics aren't my thing. Sure I'm not enamored with the follow-ups... but I'm going to put off making any real suggestions of cuts until... March? March sounds reasonable. I take back all the above suggestions. Sorry, I'm a tad of a coward. What can I say, I like them all!

*lowers flamethrower*
Posted by Mayo88m

I hope they cancel Dark Knight soon. lol It really isn't a great comic, but the Bat-freak in me won't let me drop it from my pull list so I need DC to take the choice out of my hands! Ahhhhh!

Posted by Silkcuts

From the ones you picked out, most I can agree have something to fear.
 
I disagree with B&A verses Dark Knight.  The Bat universe is still redeveloping because of the 52's changes to Morrison's pace.  Morrison needs places to tell his stories, they are all possible outlets, so they are safe.  Dark Knight also has the advantage it is Finch.  Finch left Marvel at the right time and the reason was DC gave him that level freedom.  They won't take it away. DC only likes to piss off Alan Moore.
 
Batwing as well, that is a character Morrison I believe created.  Like how Azrael didn't do well, the character needed to be fleshed out.  As long as the character is getting fleshed out, then he'll live.  I give minimum three trades or a years worth of stories, give or take.
 
I feel black characters have the disadvantage in sales.  May black characters are created just to have black character, such as John Stewart and Black Lighting.  It is sad Static doesn't get the love since it was one of the greatest black writers to create him.  But then again, Static's market was cartoons and how many cartoon watchers read comics?
 
Resurrection man I think they will treat like Vertigo and base it on trade sales.
 
Firestorm is just bad.  I can't believe that insult was allow by DC and the creative team.  It is just a black mark on all of them.

Posted by Trodorne
@Silkcuts said:
  May black characters are created just to have black character, such as John Stewart and Black Lighting.  It is sad Static doesn't get the love since it was one of the greatest black writers to create him.  But then again, Static's market was cartoons and how many cartoon watchers read comics?  
I agree many black characters are at a disadvantage. I only disliked John Stewart previous to 52 was that he always had to remind people he was a sniper in the marines....YES WE GET IT ALREADY!. I thought Black Lightning was static shock of the future. I mean same powers almost. But the ones who do watch the cartoons and read comics are often sent to the kids rack to read Batman Brave and the Bold.
Posted by CATPANEXE

The ones I'm still getting right now (up to issue #3, I'm late): all Superman family books (1 will be cut), , all Bat family books (maybe cut Dark Knight, female books are primary for me, all else secondary), Lantern family books, Suicide Squad, JLDark, Deathstroke (possible cut), Voodoo, Red Hood (kinda meh on this one), Stormwatch (on the fence, I love the characters way too much though) and Wonder Woman.

Posted by Cavalier1645

Never liked Capt. Atom or Static Shock, would love it if they where cancelled.