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@themagicstik said:

Odin is a skyfather, what has Thanos ever done un amped to say that he is in Odin's League? Survive a couple of Odin's blasts? The blasts weren't exactly of the Galaxy busting level so it's almost pointless to gauge his durability based on those attacks, they didn't actually seem that impressive other than the fact that they came from Odin.

Well beside it coming from Odin one has to take into account the fact that before Thanos entered the scene, Odin with his blast took out both Drax and Surfer with one shot each.

You wouldnt expect Odin to keep shooting blast at Thanos weaker than before really.

Thanos might not exactly be on par with Odin, but he isnt the only person at this tier Thanos has gone up against. The list includes Tyrant, Walker and Galactus.

Post Crisis CA with the power of the quantum field has been shown to be able to create Universes, absorb enough energy to destroy a Universe which resulted in a Universe being destroyed and subsequently surviving the destruction of that Universe.

This isnt entirely true because this was done inside the Quantum field, the very source of his power. The said universe was also limited with the same source of the power.

Anything to suggest he can replicate something of that caliber in real world.

Because if we are not going to ignore that Thanos has done exact that, but instead of create his universe he went to the cross-roads of infinity, recreate and destroy the universe in his image.

Its an interesting comparison because he isnt using a trinket (well he is using one, whose sole job was to take him to this place). He reaches a place brimming with unlimited power, which in itself isnt much different from say Quantum Zone, and uses that to destroy and recreate the universe in his image.

This isnt entirely accurate either. Monarch isnt just Captain Atom though, its Earth 2 Captain Atom in the monitor suit, i.e. the Monarch suit it makes a whole lot of difference because it amps one physical stats.

Captain Atom isnt the first person to done the Monarch universe, we have an earlier Monarch, Hank Hall (From the Armaggedon 2001) , not much more than an enhanced street level to be precise, but with the said armor was able to match the whole Justice League.

We can use his power interchagably to say normal Captain Atom, when he single handedly defeated an army of Captain Atoms from alternate universe and absorbed them in totality as a boost. Thats a pretty big boost when you think about it.

Thanos can't survive Universal destruction.

He did survive the destruction of Cancerverse.

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@killemall Thanks for the recaps. I thought he lost his power derived from the cube and was on a mission to re-obtain it before Mar-Vell got a hold of it. It's been years since I read the issues.

Either way, Captain Atom is herald level at best, Thanos is mid to high skyfather now days and would mangle Atom with ease.

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UNSC dominates. The Spartans alone could take out the entire rebel ground force IMO.

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#5  Edited By ToO_RaW

Please, do. From what I remember this was Thanos' quest to RE-OBTAIN the cosmic cube.

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@themagicstik said:

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Like I'm just not going to get into that dimension scan, it's been posted and refuted like a billion times on this site.

Yeah and that Captain Marvel feat... I'm pretty sure that's what Thanos looks like when utilizing the cosmic cube, touch isn't always the only way to be using a power and anyways that feat almost looks like he's just messing with his head which Thanos is known to do, who knows? Do you?

Refuted? LOL. Anyone who refutes that scan is obviously a Thanos hater.... because it's painfully obvious and clear.

Mar-Vell was in possession of the cube, dude. You're grasping at very small straws here. I know reality was being warped because I actually read the comic. Here's the second page where it says "reality"

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I'm going to stop posting because it's clear you're not going to listen to reason and logic. Good luck in future debates.

Bud it's clear Thanos is using the cosmic cube in that scan, you must be kidding me... Good luck in the future posting nice scans clearly against yourself.

It's clear he;s using the cosmic cube, yet the cosmic cube is drawn and shown to you first off in Mar-Vell's hands, and then on the ground? LOL. Seriously?

It's wierd how you don't even know what's going on in the scan you yourself posted and I do. Thanos made himself omnipowerful with the cube then discarded it and Mar-Vell is trying to make things right by getting to the cube again.

How would you know if you didn't read the book? That's not what happened in the books I read...

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@kangconquers: I know Thanos is powerful I just don't think he can contend with a person that can absorb and project universal level energy (pre 52) or a person with like every super power (new 52).

Well, he's been consistently rape stomping Silver Surfer for 25 years now, who has many similar feats to Captain Atom. Unless I'm misunderstanding the character, and Atom is actually light years beyond Surfer.

He's clearly not right in the head. Either that, or he has never read a single comic in his life and goes by scans people post on the forums. lol.

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@too_raw said:

@themagicstik said:

Like I'm just not going to get into that dimension scan, it's been posted and refuted like a billion times on this site.

Yeah and that Captain Marvel feat... I'm pretty sure that's what Thanos looks like when utilizing the cosmic cube, touch isn't always the only way to be using a power and anyways that feat almost looks like he's just messing with his head which Thanos is known to do, who knows? Do you?

Refuted? LOL. Anyone who refutes that scan is obviously a Thanos hater.... because it's painfully obvious and clear.

Mar-Vell was in possession of the cube, dude. You're grasping at very small straws here. I know reality was being warped because I actually read the comic. Here's the second page where it says "reality"

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I'm going to stop posting because it's clear you're not going to listen to reason and logic. Good luck in future debates.

Bud it's clear Thanos is using the cosmic cube in that scan, you must be kidding me... Good luck in the future posting nice scans clearly against yourself.

It's clear he;s using the cosmic cube, yet the cosmic cube is drawn and shown to you first off in Mar-Vell's hands, and then on the ground? LOL. Seriously? You've already proven that you have not read the comic so why bother acting like you have? And your feats for Captain atom have already been dismantled.

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@themagicstik said:

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Well maybe if I just watch you just read, do you see Thanos's appearence being visibly changed and shaped? He says little effect because it's not being permanently changed but it still CLEARLY effects him but its not like he's being directly targetted by a reality shaper who is trying to kill him.

Hmm I've never seen Thanos use the power cosmic beyond that scan but frankly I can see why the art in that scan is awful I'm sure nobody reads that lol. Anyways it's probably a temporary thing but idk, context would be nice.

When has Thanos ever reality warped? I mean he's gained omnipotence several times but un amped he's not a reality warper, just unbelievably powerful with a lot of technical powers. Captain Atom has clear on panel event warping.

You're joking, right? Thanos' entire physical body was warped (as you can see) and then he reverted back because reality warping has minimal effect. Plus, as an ETERNAL, has complete control over his atoms. Note that that is the reality warping power of AN ENTIRE DIMENSION. lol.

This is an unamped Thanos warping reality around Mar-Vell as Mar-Vell is about to grab the cosmic cube. Don't even try to say he was using the cube, because the cube is clearly in front of Mar-Vell.

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Like I'm just not going to get into that dimension scan, it's been posted and refuted like a billion times on this site.

Yeah and that Captain Marvel feat... I'm pretty sure that's what Thanos looks like when utilizing the cosmic cube, touch isn't always the only way to be using a power and anyways that feat almost looks like he's just messing with his head which Thanos is known to do, who knows? Do you?

Refuted? LOL. Anyone who refutes that scan is obviously a Thanos hater.... because it's painfully obvious and clear.

Mar-Vell was in possession of the cube, dude. You're grasping at very small straws here. I know reality was being warped because I actually read the comic. Here's the second page where it says "reality"

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I'm going to stop posting because it's clear you're not going to listen to reason and logic. Good luck in future debates.

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@themagicstik said:

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@too_raw: Here's the page for the Universe thing http://www.comicvine.com/forums/battles-7/captain-atom-vs-quasar-32787/

Monarch is in fact standard postcrisis new earth Captain Atom just with an evil twist.

Not sure why any level of reality bending wouldn't work on Thanos, it's reality bending and Thanos isn't on that tier of godly level that he would be able to scoff at that.

Not sure what planetary destruction matters in a fight against a guy that accidentally destroyed a Universe in one of his battles and created one just as easy he also destroyed a planet in New 52.

Also there is no way Thanos can compete with him for matter manipulation feats.

I can easily find about 10 matter manipulation feats for Thanos that are consistently on par with Captain Atom if not moreso. Thanos can also draw from the power cosmic.

Reality warping doesn't effect Thanos at all. For one, Thanos is an Eternal. He has complete control of his own atoms. Secondly, proof. This is under his own power by the way. And he has had 3 upgrades since.

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Y'know I was originally going to say please don't post the scan with Thanos traveling through different dimensions (I forgot) because that speaks nothing for his durability it's just different things happen in different dimensions and Thanos doesn't let it get to him, has nothing to do with reality warping, it mostly speaks for his level of willpower.

Also I dare you to find 10 Thanos matter manipulation feats, he has it as a power but he like Silver Surfer only more so mostly just uses energy bolts, he doesn't do it on Captain Atom's level. Also Thanos does not have the power cosmic, the Power Cosmic is Galactus only (confirmed in a recent Thor God of Thunder issue) and of course Galactus partitions the PC to his heralds.

Nobody besides reality benders has a valid defense against reality bending not that Captain Atom really needs to reality bend to beat Thanos.

Do you even read the comics or just look at pictures? "REALITY, like all outside influences, has minimal effect on my being". His being was being warped by different REALITIES, and had no effect. lmfao

Thanos does have the power cosmic. If you knew anything, Thanos has outsmarted Galactus several times before. It shouldn't surprise anyone that he could usurp the power.

And Thanos has reality warping powers as well. I don't really think you'read enough of his older issues to understand how powerful he really is. There is nothing Captain Atom can do to harm him.

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Well maybe if I just watch you just read, do you see Thanos's appearence being visibly changed and shaped? He says little effect because it's not being permanently changed but it still CLEARLY effects him but its not like he's being directly targetted by a reality shaper who is trying to kill him.

Hmm I've never seen Thanos use the power cosmic beyond that scan but frankly I can see why the art in that scan is awful I'm sure nobody reads that lol. Anyways it's probably a temporary thing but idk, context would be nice.

When has Thanos ever reality warped? I mean he's gained omnipotence several times but un amped he's not a reality warper, just unbelievably powerful with a lot of technical powers. Captain Atom has clear on panel event warping.

Thanos's powers aren't all tech. He is an Eternal, who have baseline abilities to manipulate matter at a subatomic level. Thanos is a Mutant Eternal, and thus much more powerful than the regular Eternals of titan. On top of that, when Death resurrected him, she integrated much of his tech into his actual being, making them inherent powers.

Thank you. lol