Yes and I know that seth can have an argument made for him being multiverse level and galactus full powered on par with eternity obviously..... soooooooo.......
Yes but shuma is multiversal he just has a few bad showings out of his realm
THE CONDITIONS HERE ARE SIMPLE SHUMA GORATH IS ABOUT TO DESTROY EARTH HAS ALREADY KILLED UATA THE WATCHER AND MOST OF THE MAJOR HEROES OF EARTH 616 AND HAS ACTUALLY PULLED EARTH INTO HIS OWN DIMENSION SO HE IS THE MOST POWERFUL. SIRE HATE AND MISTRESS LOVE SENSE A COSMIC DISTURBANCE- EARTH BEING ABSORBED INTO SHUMAS DIMENSION AND THEY DECIDE TO HELP THE REMAINING OF EARTH'S POPULATION. YES I KNOW I HAVE A LITTLE BAD GRAMMAR HERE AND AN ABSURD SITUATION BUT IF THIS WERE TO HAPPEN WHO WOULD WIN, THE TEAM OR THE OLD GOD KNOWN AS SHUMA GORATH. GIVE REASONS AND MAKE AN ARGUMENT IN EITHER WAY.
VS
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who wins?
@godslayer1090: Wrong for the most part right. But wrong because Odin full power is only as strong as a weak celestial not an average to strong celestial.
Hey guys I know I'm relatively new, I just wanted to say I love comics and now that I have another job am saving up for all of the marvel and dc omnibus's and a few storylines from both companies. The thing is I have massive ocd- obsessive compulsive disorder. Having said that I love looking at the dc and marvel tier lists with all of the cosmic characters I have a few but I want to do a rewrite of them. Make them better if possible, I'm trying to collect all of the appearances of white phoenix of the crown appearances, the chaos king storyline, abbraxas, etc... Now I can figure this out by myself for the most part but wanted to get a new tier list going because honestly nobody has posted one for a 1 to 2 years for either company marvel or dc. Lets do this... This is what I have to work with, please help me out and lets make this an awesome thread and ill post and you guys feel free to comment and edit as you want. Btw I'm not new to comics not at all just relatively new to this website.
THIS IS MARVELS TIER LIST
Tier 1 : 1st Class Beyond
The One-Above-All
Pre-Retcon Beyonder
Thanos with the Heart of the Universe
Protege
Living Tribunal
Tier 2 : 2nd Class Beyond
Pre-Retcon Molecule Man
Thanos with the Infinity Gauntlet
Nebula with the Infinity Gauntlet
Magus with the Infinity Gauntlet
Tier 3 : 1st Class Multiversal Abstract or Scale
Eternity
Infinity
Death
Oblivion
The Phoenix Force
The Alien Entity
Infiniti IG Nemesis
Genesis ( Sise-Neg)
Tier 4 : 2nd Class Multiversal Abstract or Scale
White Crown of the Phoenix
Abysss
The Sword in the Star
The Legion or "Prime Evil"
The Darkness
Nth Man
G-Force
Mysterium
Edifice Rex
Korvac (Power of Six Abstracts from What if?)
Tier 5 : 3rd Class Multiversal Entity
The Infinites
The Beyonders
Masters of the Matrix
Hunger
Tier 6 : 1st Class Universal Abstract Entity Dimensional God
The Entity (What If?)
Master Order
Lord Chaos
Shuma-Gorath
The Other
The Dreaming God
The Ankh
The Enigma Force
Uni-lord
Abadon (Original when it was the embodiment of it's own universe)
Lectra and Phaedra
Zokk and Maftra the twin gods of Therea
Anthropomorpho
The Trion
Galactus (fully powered)
The Creator
The Creator's Staff
Job Burke
Scrier (usurping the Creator's Staff)
Tier 7 : 2nd Class Universal Abstract Entity Dimensional God
Sire Hate
Mistress Love
The Seven Friendless
Entropy
Epiphany
Enmity
Empathy
Expediency
Eulogy
Eon
Epoch
Valka
Unbeing
Origin
Goblin Force
Those Who Sit Above in Shadow
The Vishanti
Nightmare
Hell-Lords inside their own pocket dimension
Mephisto
Raggadorr
Cinnibus
Denak
Chthon
Cyttorak
Tiboro
Helleyes
Llan
Arioch
Adversary
Inanna
The Darkforce Dimension
The Dragon of the Moon
Archenemy
Maya
Great One
Atlez
Atleza
Zalkor
The Fallen Stars (Adam K'ad-Mon, Cleito, Evenor, Mr.Termineus, Sorrow)
Tier 8 : High Level Metaphysical Semi-Abstracts
Galactus (highly fed)
In-Betweener
The Celestials
The Absolutes
The Makers
Mirage
Mad Jim Jaspers
Time Twisters
Time Keepers
Hunger (embodiment of Hunger)
Uni-Mind
Anomaly
He Who Summons - Leader of the Watchers
Kronos
He Who Remains
Captain Britain (with Excalibur and Amulet of Right)
Merlyn (with Energy Matrix)
Tier 9 : Minor Omnipotent Level Upper Class Reality Warpers
Cosmic Cube Beings
Known Developed Cosmic Cube
Beyonder(retconed)
Kubik
Shaper of Worlds
Supremor (I)
Kosmos
Star Thief I (Defender character)
Vaangard
Molecule Man
Sword of the Elder Gods
Devourer of Souls (With power of the Elders)
The M'Kraan Crystal
Mikhail Rasputin
Lifestone Tree
Tier 10 : Metaphysical and Semi-Abstract Level
Galactus (average)
The Dreamqueen
The Watchers
Abrogate
Stranger
Vortex
Demogorge (Atum)
Rune Thor
Trion Juggernaut
Daydream
Hawk God
Xorr, the God Jewel
Wise Man and the Three Wise Men
Walker
Deathurge
Stardust (The Body)
Tier 11 : Elder Gods
Odin (Fully powered)
Elder Gods
Chthon
Demiurge
Set
Gaea
Elder Gods of the Hyborian Age
Crom
Mitra
Asura
Seth
Surtur
Adam K'ad-Mon
King Thor
Hell-Lords outside their own realm
Mephisto
Raggadorr
Cinnibus
Satannish
Tiboro
Llan
Dormammu
The Adversary
Inanna
Dragon Of The Moon
Tier 12 : Low Level Metaphysical-High Class Mutants: Reality Warping Level
Franklin Richards
Proteus Piecemeal
Kelly
Donna
Haven (Radha Dastoor) and her son combined
Composite Ngh and Ahh
Jonz Rickard
Alfie O'Meagan
Jamie Braddock
Hutch
Mysterious Fan Boy
Yazdi Gem
Tier 13 : Multiple Planetary-Star Scale: Skyfathers Upper Class Team Wreckers Lower Class Reality Warpers
Other Skyfather Pantheons ( Odin (varies), Zeus [Olympian], Osiris [Egyptian], Manitou [Anasazi], Anu [Annunaki], etc.)
Council of Godheads members.
Doctor Strange (Fullest)
Hyperstorm
Cleito
Evenor
The Silent Ones
Master of the Sun
Star Thief ( Adam Warlock Foe)
Elders of the Universe
Architect
Astronomer
Caregiver
Champion
Collector
Contemplator
Ego
Explorer
Father Time
Gardner
Grand Astrogator
Grandmaster
Judicator
Obliterator
Possessor
Runner
Trader
Arcadia Deville
The Futurist
Mister M
Alpha the Ultimate Mutant
Cosmic Skyfathers
Veeda Leebre
Kronnit
Zuras
Mentor
Ghaur psionic final form
The One Above (Deonists worship)
Skup Collins
Scatterbrain
Orphan
Overshadow
Soul-Eater (Spirit Mold)
Tier 14 : Planetary-Star Scale: Death Gods Lower Class Team Wreckers High End Psionics Composite Beings
Thanos
Death Gods ( Pluto, Hela, Seth, Yama, etc)
The Bottle Imp
Supreme Intelligence
Demonstaff
Hunger (Fantastic Four foe)
Shadow King
Undying Ones
Lord Tantalus
Lord Khult
Holly-Ann Ember
Xemnu the Titan
Bysshe
Paloma
Germain Royce
Cloud
The Dance
Kaluu
The Protector
Touchstone
Psi-Lord Franklin Richards
Mantis
The Walkers
The Defiler
Meggan and the Fairies
Huntarr
Mindstar
Doctor Strange (varies)
Modred the Mystic
Nebulon
Supernalia
Varnae
Kulan Gath
Urthona
Ultimus
Thoth Amon
Sleepwalkers
Super-Adaptoids
Audit
Franklin 2099
Moleculon
Mangog
Onslaught (Varies)
Young Gods' Uni-Mind
Overmind
Armaziel, Tzadqiel, and other Cosmic Angels Asuras
Tier 15 : Top Tiers
Thor
Silver Surfer
Morg
Beta Ray Bill
Firelord
X-Man (Shaman)
Adam Warlock
Magneto
Ikaris
Sersi
Black Bolt
Quasar
Maelstrom
Captain Marvel (Mar-vell, Genis-Vell, Phyla)
Kro
Thena
Emperor
Val-Or
Moondragon
Sundragon
Avatar
Apocalypse
X-Man
Gladiator
Hulk (in enraged state)
THIS IS DCS TIER LIST
So guys please tell me what you think I would really appreciate the help- the full help and support of the comicvine family. Hopefully some of you are like me and I know there are some like me in the battle threads with the cosmic characters and with the tier list characters. Please Help me out, also doing this for the good of comic fans because like I said hasn't really been anything posted within last year and I know nothing really changed but its still important.
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