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Back-Door Retcon Mentality

Gylan, i like the way your mind works, but rather than much up the forums, i figured i'd blog this response for you. i consider what we're having a discussion and not really an argument, we agree on so much at this point. the stuff we don't agree on is details, really.
 
 @Gylan Thomas said:

" @Timm: 
I'm not sure it's fair to point at Marvel as having a "back-door retcon mentality". There have really only been a few stories that stand out as showing that. DC's far more notorious with so many "crisis" event's. They can't seem to grow a back bone and stick with the creative choices they make. More often than not Marvel will ignore the silier bit's rather than flat out write them out.  

Everything you said i agree with except that one thing there. "a few stories" is relative to how many stories they have put out as a whole i think. Marvel is the king of the retcon: 

- Spider Man is rocking at least one retcon at least every other storyline. Harry Osborn himself is a walking retcon. Spider Clones. Marriage. Aunt May. Sins of the past. 
- The X-Men are retconning characters and character abilities on a regular basis in order to further their various stories. Wolverine is everywhere at once in 3 costumes. They cut off Laura's hand (X-23), Marvel would say: "but we didn't like that so we put it back. It's a robotic hand, until people forget that we cut it off... then we'll say it healed. Like Xavier's legs before we put him back in the wheelchair... twice.". Jean Grey's not the phoenix, the phoenix used a clone of Jean. She's not dead either btw... Madelynn Prior was a pilot for the X-men, who was actually a clone, that fathered Cable... or Stryfe... Anyway, Jean was being a stripper under the mind controls at the hellfire club! Okay, no she wasnt. Wolfbane has been turned into a monster monster that wants to kill Angel, Angel is a psychopath again, majority of the teleporters have died for a story no one cares about... and Doug Ramsey is back again. so is warlock. Shatterstar is gay... or is he? Longshot is back... or is he? Dazzler is.. still alive? Scarlett Witch has forgotten who she is... or has she? but why? Wiccan and Speed are Wanda's imaginary children... but are they not mutants? no... i mean yes... i mean.. 
- Lets face the truth about Cap, Bucky was dead. then he was winter soldier and now he's Captain America. Captain America quit, but now is another character. Sharon killed captain America under mind control and then her own baby? her own baby!? Captain America's baby. 
- Ghost Rider... all of it.
- The Black Panther gave up his powers, but not his job, which is impossible. When everyone thought that was garbage, they gave him his powers back... of course (extra strength formula). but they kept the other one around just in case... cause its his sister. who didn't exist before. also, he married storm. he never mentioned her before, they never talked, but ironically Kenyan royalty and Wakanda royalty are close.
- Thor. period.
- Daredevil! exclamation point.
- The Red Skull is dead.... like so many times. and he keeps coming back in newer and more interesting ways.
- Remember Mojo 2? I guess Marvel doesnt either. 
- Remember Omega Red?  
- The Legacy Virus doesnt kill Squat!
- TWO SORCERER SUPREMES OF EARTH! 
 
im not saying anything about DC, they have their retcons as well, but Marvel likes to sweep their under the rug most of the time. DC likes to openly retcon. Go right back in and rip the heart out of some historically important event... but Marvel. they sneak off with history. They steal it from you.
i hate them for it.
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