tim2081

Yes, he is.

@Twentyfive said:

1. Better editorial direction
2. Stop milking the same two franchises
3. Include more genres

The have one fantasy comic (to my knowledge), and probably NO horror comics. Comic storytelling goes beyond superheroes, and often times, superhero comics can transcend the usual mindless action stories. Marvel needs to learn these things.

Blade and Ghost Rider can be considered horror, so can some of Dr. Strange's stories, and the Marvel Zombies series. Marvel also has more gray-area characters, and less stereotypical superheroes, like Hulk, Punisher, and Wolverine. Otherwise, I agree that they don't need a reboot, but more focused storytelling.

Batman is obviously bad for Gotham, but if he cleaned it up, he wouldn't have any good stories to tell.

Iron Man

Superheroes are illogical to begin with. Trying to make sense of their behaviors and emotions is fairly pointless.

Looks like they're trying to rain on Batman's parade.

@Kiltro95 said:

A lot of the reason why the Avengers worked was the build up, as for the argument of DC not having enough down to earth characters I personally believe it depends on the reader and how they feel they can relate to it, and if one can't relate to the superhero they could relate to the alter ego (The one under the mask) and the characters personality. But I mean come on do you expect Whedon, to promote a Justice League movie after the Avengers success? I don't think so. But let's be honest it took 6 movies to introduce the Avengers, it took like what half a quarter of a Season of a Television show to introduce the Avengers, but there is not one person I know that needs an introduction to the Justice League.

Even Hulk needed an introduction to the Avengers, and he's more popular than all the JL, except Superman and Batman (which are the only 2 who wouldn't need one). The general public knows the names of the JL and maybe a couple powers, but nothing else (just like Captain America). The introductions allow them to skip back-stories and power descriptions, and focus on the main story.

@cosmo111687 said:

@tim2081: I don't mean to be rude, but I really don't understand what you're saying. Avengers has Captain America, Thor, Hulk, Iron Man, Black Widow, Hawkeye, and Nick Fury. So that's 1 God, 1 God-like Monster, 1 Man in a Super-Powered Suit, 1 Man with Super Soldier Serum, 1 Unpowered but Unreasonably Skilled Assassin, 1 Unpowered but Unreasonably Skilled Archer, and 1 Man who commands S. H. I. E. L. D. from his helicarrier. At what point do these characters start being average or normal? They're, to use Stan Lee's words, Invincible, Incredible, and Earth's Mightiest Super Heroes! But that doesn't keep us from relating to them because, like all characters including Superman, Batman, and Wonder Woman, they have characteristics which we can see in ourselves (though, probably because of my DC bias, I can relate to Superman's heart, Batman's mind, and Wonder Woman's determination more than Iron Man's narcissism, Captain America's jingoism, and Hulk's anger.)

Batman being unreasonably skilled means achieving a level that is not possible by human means, no matter how exaggerated. Batman masters the most complex skills in a fraction of the time it takes other people. Some people dedicate their lives to studying martial arts and still aren't perfect, Batman mastered all of them in what? A few years, while simultaneously learning everything there is to know about science and technology. That's unreasonable. Black Widow and Hawkeye are exaggerated, Iron Man and Captain America also, to a slightly greater degree. I posted this earlier in response to someone else, but take these real life people, amplify their stories and skills a bit, and you'll get 4 of the 6 Avengers. It's impossible to do anything close to this with the Justice League.

Captain America - Navy Seals

Iron Man - Bill Gates, Larry Ellison, Elon Musk

Hawkeye - CIA agents, marksmen

Black Widow - Anna Chapman

Nick Fury - Colin Powell, David Patraeus (4-star General, current Director of the CIA)

Secondly, I've met more narcissists, and people who have been to anger management, and people with drinking problems, than I have people who try to live up to some ideal. If I had powers, I would use them to my benefit first, and to help people when it's convenient for me. That's the way the world works.