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Bueller? Bueller?

If anyone could direct me to a better place to find the answer, I'd very much appreciate that as well.

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So, people of Comcivine, I have an odd request.

My friend is attempting to write a paper referencing 50's pop culture. She needs to be able to verify (not necessarily cite) some photo documentation that in the 50's, kids had access to kind of concepts or ideas about futuristic transit and road ways. She cited Flash Gordon and Buck Rogers as examples, but I couldn't find any information about their popularity in the 50's. Similarly, my knowledge of that specific branch of pop culture is fairly limited.

So, basically,I need to be able to verify that concepts of 'futuristic' roadways and transit (more the roadways) were available to kids of the 50s.

Anyone able to help?

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Whomever the fight is against, I would like to see it be against someone where Cyclops -would- actually pull a 'Get Off My Lawn'. Arguably, he would against Wolverine, but every fight so far has been 'Well, this character generally has a chance to dodge X many shots, but Cyclops wouldn't go all out against such an opponent.'

Let's let Scott cut loose. Cyclops is cosmic level offense in a street level defense. I want someone who's cosmic level defense but street level offense.

That, or ,Iron Fist and Cyclops (cosmic level close combat and cosmic level ranged combat vs anything).

No. More. Ninja.

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Honestly, this is very very tough.

Nightwing and Robin can win via gadgets and team work. Those are going to be their primary advantages. I don't buy the Close Combat advantage. I don't care who you are, there's no way to prepare for those close combat bank shots Cyclops can pull off. As long as he's capable of aiming at -something-, he's going to be able to hit you. And if you're in close combat, he knows where you are. The way for Cyclops to negate that advantage is his tactical mind. Does he have a trick up his sleeve to negate gas canisters? Is his suit taser resistant? Does he have clever ways of minimizing the odds against very skilled opponents? (Let's not forget that Cyclops has his own degree of stealth abilities too, via Cyclops vs X-Men in the Danger Room).

Nightwing and Robin's biggest disadvantage here are their durability. Neither of them are going to be able to tank a shot from Cyclops, barring a Wide Beam or an AoE shot where he blows up a car. Like in the fight against Batman, if Cyclops can get 1 shot off on either of them, it's game over. Neither of these guys are taking any kind of advantage over Cyclops in 1v1. Similarly, Cyclops is a glass canon. If either of them get clean shots off, it's also game over.

My brain says too close to call. But my heart wants Cyclops over D&D.

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@micah: Z-Zzzzzrrrrrr is slightly better than the kitten coughs that is 'paff paff', but to me it just sounds like the electric can opener to open up some food for the sick kitten.

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His energy blast are quite destructive, he may not kill Colossus with them but they will do some damage especially repeated blasts of this caliber

Let it be said, here and forever more, that the mighty Colossus will never fall to something that goes 'Paff paff'.

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#7  Edited By thevagrantking

Alright, I gotta give Pete some support here. It's not as simple as 'X-O stands far away and shoots him, haha, X-O wins'. Colossus has experience fighting versatile opponents. He's a 2nd generation X-Man, and has thrown down against the likes of Magneto, Dr. Doom and spars constantly against people like Wolverine. The Manowar armor isn't something that is going to surprise Pete. Conversely, X-O doesn't seem to have the experience going up against someone as tough as Colossus. He's been in his share of scraps, and has tanked his share of damage, but I can't find any evidence that he's even met anyone in the same weight class as Piotr.

Colossus is more versatile than people give him credit for. He -loves- to throw heavy things at opponents. It's essentially his signature move, and Wolverine just happens to be the best projectile in the game. Cars, street lamps, hunks of concrete, entire buildings are at Colossus' disposal for taking down a flying/more maneuverable opponent. One Prius (UXM # 500) to the chops, with a follow up slam, is all it'd take to bring the mech suit barbarian down.

Additionally, it's a city setting. Inside buildings and sewer systems are game. This cuts down X-O's ranged superiority just about completely. From there, Pete would be happy to bring the fight to a close by proving it a contest of durability, and bringing the entire street/building crashing down on top of them, and being the only one who can walk away from that kind of punishment. Now, Colossus doesn't win this every time. His farm town sensibilities, and tendencies to leap before he looks will get the better of him, especially against a tactical opponent. If Colossus gains an advantage, but doesn't finish the fight, Aric's tactical knowledge will surely see him through. Problem being, Colossus is a hay-maker type of fighter. It's big, huge attacks that lay opponents out, and I just don't see Aric withstanding more than one shot from a guy who is in the Juggernaut/Thing/Hulk weight class.

Colossus, 7 out of 10 times.

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Woo! My argument was poignant! Praise validation! :p

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#10  Edited By thevagrantking

I think this match goes to Captain America, as much as I dislike the guy. Everyone else, sure, they're factors, but this is Cap's GAME. Throwing objects that ricochet to hit targets, and he's allowed to BLOCK using said objects to defend himself? And the opposing team is going to throw those objects back at him? He's got the best physicals, a teammate who he's worked with extensively (Hawkeye), and the DC squad is a team that relies a -little- too much on sneaky tactics. Every time someone throws a ball at Cap, there's going to be that ball deflected right back at them, and then a second that's been bounced off two walls and a light fixture to be coming right behind you.

Cap playing dodgeball is like facing Bullseye in target practice. It's just his game.

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