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I love Ben Grimm but n52 Aquaman takes the majority, especially with his leaping ability. He is now too fast and agile and is at least as strong , if not more.

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I'll go with Gypsy Danger as well.......Mako Mori had 51 simulator kills and definitely knows a lot of finishing moves.

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The Speedsters and Bricks still need to breathe, so contaminating/altering/ manipulating the atmosphere automatically impairs & defeats them. Or what happened if one of the powerhouses decides to Sun-dip this indestructable Earth?

As for Powerhouses vs Team Busters, the Powerhouses are all pretty awesome, but a Cyborg Superman with 12 rings is a force to be reckoned with...by anyone. It is also pretty hard to argue against N52 Captain Atom as well in an extreme situation. Since I think Captain Atom could be MVP (since he also has speed and dimensional travel options), I would ultimately side with the Powerhouses, even though I am still unclear how to actually defeat Cyborg Superman.

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@arcus: just so we are on the same page, I said that he wins if he strikes first, AND drops her........but if he doesn't, and she is still able to fight, then she will win..one way or another. She does not need metal bending, it just makes the outcome faster, but does not decide it.....her raw Earth bending is sufficient. And the op said EMH Iron Man, who is both a little cocky and chivalrous, so he might not use enough force on his first hit to take her out, either.

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@arcus: If he can't fly? Toph is like an Earth Bending Martial Artist in my eyes. Not only is she good, and a Master of Neutral Jing, but she strikes with almost surgical precision, and has that classic "rooted" Earth-bender attitude. Remember she was trained by the Original Earth benders, the Badger Moles. She doesn't even need metal bending to take out Tony, but there will still be enough metal, even if it is just circuitry, for her to win. Her senses are just too sharp!

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If it is <current Thor> vs <current Warlock> (e.g. the Quantum Mage) I would lean towards Warlock, actually. Too fast, versatile and especially cunning for Thor

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Actually, I am among those that think the current Thing can successfully take on Abomination, and pull off a win. Ben Grimm has been class 100 for a while now, and has multiple instances of feats where he has exceeded She-Hulk and even Rulk (e.g. the Kree Sentry's). And Ben Grimm has the fighting skills to match his strength, which is his biggest advantage here. As far as I am concerned, only the Abomination has a chance of taking him. Colossus maxes out at 100 tons, but I do consider She-hulk to be a better and more agile fighter, if not necessarily stronger. So, in my rankings;

1) Abomination >= Thing

2) She-Hulk

2) Colossus

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I love Toph (and her skills), so Tony will get one shot at taking her down.....and if he doesn't drop her, it's over for him.

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Great Match! Don't know how I missed this one before. And there are a lot of good points raised on both sides of the debate. They are both in the same league physically, although I would give Orion an edge in ferocity and ruthlessness. And even though Orion can fly with his harness, I would give the speed and maneuverability edge to Captain Atom. Captain Atom's energy absorption powers are key here as protection against the Astro Force, although there might be some question as to whether or not the Astro Force energy is quantum-based. But the biggest factor that I see here is that, despite Captain Atom's greater energy manipulation abilities, Orion always carries his Mother Box as part of his standard equipment, and there is a slight but definite chance that the Mother Box might be capable of severing Nate's connection to the Quantum Field. If that is possible & it happens, then Orion will win outright. But Captain Atom's "mecha-empathy tech sense" might be able to counter that also! This one is too close to call, but I would pay money to see this battle. As it stands , it is almost 50/50 for me.