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#1  Edited By thegentlemanrogue
@Squaredcircle said:

God what a troll. Canon or not disintegrating every one of his cells will kill him and it was /is canon, it is simply the future. and the guy in the second scan neglected to burn his eyes and likely parts of his brain and likely left some dna intact. That is easily remedied  with a constant and long term conflagration. Now what were you trying to accomplish with your condescending smugness? Oh, you wanted everyone to know you were a troll. Mission accomplished. "
No divergent time line is canon. DoFP is Earth 811, any connection to Earth 616 is tenuous... I think Wolverine was alive in subsequent DoFP revisits anyway.

The Adamantium bonding has been stated to not interfere with the normal biological process of Wolverine's bones,  so even if all his flesh was completely incarcerated, as long as his skeleton is intact he still has bone marrow shield by Adamantium capable of creating blood cells and regenerating his body. Unless his skeleton is completely destroyed there is still biological material that can start the healing process.
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Frankly the belief that Wolverine's fighting style is sloppy or he takes considerably more hits than his peers is antiquated. Does Wolverine frequently trades blows and go shot for shot? Sure. Do Captain America, Daredevil, and Batman do the same thing? Absolutely!  The fact that Wolverine doesn't need to drastically change his fighting style when he throws down with the Hulk like Captain America or DD do, shouldn't dock points from his aggregate skill score. Wolverine doesn't change his fighting style when he fights Bricks because unlike Captain America or Batman he doesn't have to. He can fight the same way he fights streets without a disastrous outcome. If he wanted to jack rabbit and play the evasion game, he could and has shown the ability to do so (avoiding the Hulk's blows with ease)... but it is unnecessary. He fights Hulk the same way he would fight Cap, because he can. Wolverine takes blows from the Hulk, for the same reason Captain America goes shot for shot with Daredevil or Black Panther or Taskmaster, because it isn't detrimental for him to do so. Now sure he takes more hits against fodder... but that is because he fights hundreds of them at a time, and dives right ind turning the situation into a meat grinder. If he wanted to waste his time and have a prolonged fight like Cap or DD, he could do that too, but it is unnecessary and time consuming. Fodder are like rain drops and unlike Cap, Wolverine is worried about getting wet.
 
Anyway, Wolverine has flat out told Steve to his face that he was better than him., he almost killed Cap with a pressure point attack that created an aneurysm (making Wolverine one only a handful of characters who have ever successfully executed a pressure point attack on someone of Captain America's skill level), he's one-shotted Rogue with a pressure point, completely shattered the Thing like body of Rock of the Buddah with a Karnak style find the weakness attack, and he has beaten Shang-Chi effortlessly in a handful of panels (which is more impressive than any skill feat Captain America has under his belt). I suppose someone could make a fallacious argument that Wolverine's defense is sorely lacking, but even if we assume that is true, the fact remains that in every other way (reflexes, speed, strike power, accuracy, technique and just overall offensive ability) he is off the chart. Silver Samurai has even commented that Wolverine's technique is flawless. 

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Sure Batman has his reasoning for not killing Joker, and on some level it is sound rational, but ultimately he doesn't do it for is own piece of mind... and isn't that pretty selfish for someone like Batman? What's more heroic that sacrificing ones own personal values and believes for the benefit of man kind? 

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" @thegentlemanrogue: not sure if anime counts but L and Light of deathnote would make better detectives "

I'm not familiar with Deathnote, but feel free to cite any character you feel is more a gifted detective than Bruce reguardless of the medium. I just think the fact that the so called "Worlds Greatest Detective," lags so far behind the rest of detective crop is a shame.
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I think it all stems from Wolverine's subconscious guilt for killing Rose in Wolverine: Origin. He feels responsible for Roses death. He couldn't save her, and no mater what he does he can't change that, so he projects his guilt from this act unto all these young troubled girls. He is trying to make up for letting Rose down. While Batman is essentially trying to save what he sees as himself as a young boy with all the Robins, Wolverine is unconsciously trying to save Rose.

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@xerox-kitty said:

" @DEGRAAF:  That's probably a recent addition... I've been buying the recent new Wolverine series, but nothing for years before that.  I only have minimal knowledge of Romulus... But I wouldn't be too surprised if they did say that. "


 Wolverine v2 issue 91: 
 
Professor X: "... this is not a regression at all. I believe Logan's original mutation was an ongoing state. That the Adamantium that was bonded to his skeleton precipitated a chemical change within his body and put that mutation into remission." 
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Yeah, Dr Nemesis turned off Wolverine's healing factor prior to him getting bit and then Cyclops re-enabled it when he returned to Utopia. 
 
Spider-man was able to reverse the effects of vampirism due to having irradiated blood, so I wonder if chemotherapy could be a "cure" in the 616 Marvel Verse?

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Wolverine and Deadpool both have less monthly appearances than Batman and I don't hear anyone complaining about Bruce being overexposed. At least Wolverine and Deadpool are full time heroes/mercs, Bruce Wayne has a day job, a variety of social obligations and he still manages to litter DC's monthly solicits with a dozen appearances.

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I don't understand how so many people are confused by Wolverine being in hell / on the Avengers / on X-Force / Quarantined on Utopia congruently. Titles publish one issue a month (if that), but most stories arcs unfold in the course of only a few days. Even if every six issue story arc averaged out to be a week in marvel time (which is far too liberal), that would only account for two weeks of stories a year from each title. There are 365 days a year.  Even if Wolverine had 20 titles every month there would still be time unaccounted for. Being confused by the multiple Wolverine books is like being confused how someone can be at soccer on Thursday, because  you saw them at school on Monday...

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@charlieboy said:
" @thegentlemanrogue: canary is the one that pulled off the stalmate against deathstroke. whether the birds where there or not. and kitty pryde is a skilled fighter but has never been anywhere near canary's level. i am just saying that being trained by wolverine is not all that imressive. jubilee trained with him too. and she is nowhere near canary's level either. canary was also trained by the same sensei who trained shiva. and she also had training from ted grant who trained batman as well. and i am not sure if widow stalemated bucky or not. "
She "pulled off" the stalemated (DS pulled off the stalemated by grabbing lady Blackhawk but whatever), only because he was in the middle of fighting the rest of the birds of prey, it isn't something she could do on her own, so  I don't see it being all that relevant. 
 
Neither Kitty nor Jubilee are very apt examples since they both stopped being heroes for extended periods of time, and only had brief windows of training, which they never continued.