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#1  Edited By thedude4731

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GREAT READ MY FRIEND! theirs a thing vs herc in mighty avengers thats also pretty good (herc held back alot though)

your num 2 is diff my favorite

Yeah, have that "Hercules vs the Thing" fight in Mighty Avengers and even though I enjoyed it, I didn't feel it was better than any of the fights I listed here.

My number 2 battle is probably my personal favorite, too.

I went back and forth between those two battles in my mind for quite a while but I decided on the number 1 battle is the greater of the two due to it's equally compelling action, it's creative team (Stan Lee and Jack Kirby, no less) and the way it paved the way for the long standing friendship between Hercules and Thor.

This scene alone, where Thor cannot physically break free from Hercules while simultaneously admitting Hercules is his better in hand-to-hand combat, makes number 2 one of the best ever for Hercules:

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If only ppl can see how much cooler Herc is than Thor we would have our "Guy" in all the cartoons and movies and most importantly Marvel Now..

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GREAT READ MY FRIEND! theirs a thing vs herc in mighty avengers thats also pretty good (herc held back alot though)

your num 2 is diff my favorite

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Hercules - 66 (+2)

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@Matezoide2: I agree that we are here to learn an have a friendly debate :)

an i concede as i did (in a way) before in saying that SS if using his power correctly that it would be very difficult for herc to defeat him (flying around invisible using force fields and fireballs from a far) other than taking an throwing something so fast an large that SS would have no time to dodge (like a mountain or some s*it) which is PLAUSIBLE i might add.

But like i said before with SS history, i think in a one on one situation hes going to test hercules an in doing to will be his downfall.

@czarny_samael666:

Common man! snowbird didnt throw a single punch...the skrull god was already beat! he could have easily at the time gone over taken the spine and impale him with it! So i dont want to hear anything about help from SB tipping the scales of this fight..thats not true.

An i get what your saying about the Annihilation series i read it also.. but that was a war in which he was fighting countless enemies.. this is one on one where SS pride will take effect.. am i wrong? is he not prideful? An i know that Ironman doesnt fit that senario thats the point.. no one fights that way so why now?

What stops him from hypnotizing? i just said that if he came that close to herc as he did Thing to hypnotize em, it was over for SS..

An their is nothing in any comic an/or dialogue suggesting Herc stood no chance against slgurt NOTHING!

KlyBn was their main GOD the whole "He Loves You" refers to him an him only an Herc beat his aZZ.

so with all that said heres what i think

If SS was to fight an win like no other! has ever fought an won in any comicbook that i know of.. an fly around invisible an shooting nova blast an blinding him with fire an cutting off his brain function from a mile away.. an useing an endless amount of time an energy in doing so due to Hercules Godly durability an strength..an all the while not taking any shots from a guy that has proven to be the Top3 strongest Hero in the marvel universe, he might stand a chance 5/10 due to the fact that, with all the time an energy hes going to spend doing this, herc can still find away to catch him if he slows down or makes any mistake (herc is no easy KO ask WWH). But with all that said who really thinks thats how this fight happens? If this fight happens in the pages of a comicbook, cause these are comicbook characters, in a comic book world.. Herc takes this in an epic all out drag out battle. 9/10

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Had assistance!?!? LOOK at that skrull... he's done...spent...herc could of done many things at point, like slam him, then go over, grab the bone an impale him with it.

An for everyone saying SS to fast an that Herc would lose because he cant fly, stop it... if this fight happens in comics, then judge it off of blow for blow and alien to god cause some of yall reasoning would put ironman vs hulk in favor of ironman 10/10 by staying a mile away an shooting him from afar. BS it never happens that way an if it has prove it an ill concede.

Thing strength isn't shit compared to Herc (he dragged Manhattan) an yall think a force field from IW can stand up to someone who can do that? An NO amount of fire can hurt Herc NONE... hes been to hell an back...Mr. Fantastic has the best shot to beat Herc out of the FF but not because of stretching but his brain power which SS doesn't have as much of.

SS is a warrior he will want a real fight, an Herc would provide him that GIFT

Herc will out last SS in an all out, drag out brawl. Not easy, but will come out on top.

That post is crazy. These fight aren't placed in comics. And each fight in which they do some crazy stupid things is BS... No one is that stupid, to not use shoot from distance if enemy is much more dangerous in close fight.

These are comic book characters fighting in a comic book world in a scenario on a site called COMICvine. An in No comic does a warrior like SS fly around invisible shooting fireballs...an if anyone has an won fighting this way... show me an ill concede. Otherwise my logic stands. They will go toe to toe an SS loses.

Dont get me wrong i agree with what ppl are saying in that flying around invisible shooting fire balls is the perfect strategy. But their is enough history on SS to know he wouldnt fight that way anyways, an you have to take that into account, even if you dont agree with me.

Im not sure your stance on this fight but tell me, if they went toe to toe that Herc wouldn't take him?

Hercules is definetly stronger than Super Skrull.

The thing is, not only is SS overral stronger and more durable than The Thing, he also has Mr.Fantastic's elasticity, wich severely helps his ability to battle Hercules in hand-to-hand, both in taking damage, but as well as inflicting it.

Super Skrull is far from a moron, despite what a lot of writters seems to think, after he fights Hercules and realises he is out-matched in hand to hand, he will employ his vast arsenal of powers to take him down, ie, flight, force fields and mind-control.

Speaking of mind-control, SS was willing to use his Mind-Controlling gaze against the Fantastic Four.

It is not like he was having problems or not having fun either, Super Skrull spent the whole issue beating the crap out of the FF and could have easily defeated them in several ways (It is worth noting he was already class 100 in that issue, while The Thing was only able to lift 5 tons).

The Skrull's large array of powers, plus his ability to survive against Hercules in close combat (Overral body durability + elasticity + Force Fields.....heck, even shooting fire directly at Herc's face should stun him a bit.) and overral competence should be enough to make him prevail against the Demi God. Heck, the only reason this is being mentioned is because that god was a Skrull too (Not saying it isnt a nice a feat).

Also, Invisible Woman has held down the Hulk with her force fields, while Super Skrull's are supposed to be even stronger. He was also made to be stronger than The Thing, everything they can do, Skrull does better. I also recall someone saying the instance Herc pulled Manhattan was just a story he was telling, but i am not sure.

He also lacks any defense against a force field to the brain (Wich Skrull has done before), as far as i know.

And can people stop mentioning the Skrull God? Hercules had help from Snowbird, a plot device and he is clearly a weak-ass Skyfather (Not even close to Zeus who beat Hulk to near death, for example) if he couldnt blink Hercules out of existence. If Hercules defeated him in hand-to-hand and killed him, then that Skyfather must be incredibly incompetent if he even allowed Herc to get close.

he didnt have help... if you read the issue she was thought to be dead! an arrived at the very end of the fight. a fight in which the skrull god killed several other gods himself, but couldnt do the same to herc. Demogorge was killed in this battle. a character all gods Fear that includes zeus who defeated hulk.

but i see your points, but for one Hercules in bloodlust is far stronger than a regular Hulk (pulled an island, lifting the sky, winning a toe to toe fight with thor, capable of destroying planets, throwing godzilla) and according to that pic of SS hypnotising thing...if he came that close, an tried to grab herc, hercs bloodlust strength coupled with thousands of years of fighting skills, an fighting all types of monsters takes SS out... an trust me fire doesnt hurt herc at all! Hes used Hell Fire on several occasions to remove hydra blood from his skin.

show me him using his Force Field powers to block off the brain an ill concede.

but right now i see herc 9/10

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Had assistance!?!? LOOK at that skrull... he's done...spent...herc could of done many things at point, like slam him, then go over, grab the bone an impale him with it.

An for everyone saying SS to fast an that Herc would lose because he cant fly, stop it... if this fight happens in comics, then judge it off of blow for blow and alien to god cause some of yall reasoning would put ironman vs hulk in favor of ironman 10/10 by staying a mile away an shooting him from afar. BS it never happens that way an if it has prove it an ill concede.

Thing strength isn't shit compared to Herc (he dragged Manhattan) an yall think a force field from IW can stand up to someone who can do that? An NO amount of fire can hurt Herc NONE... hes been to hell an back...Mr. Fantastic has the best shot to beat Herc out of the FF but not because of stretching but his brain power which SS doesn't have as much of.

SS is a warrior he will want a real fight, an Herc would provide him that GIFT

Herc will out last SS in an all out, drag out brawl. Not easy, but will come out on top.

That post is crazy. These fight aren't placed in comics. And each fight in which they do some crazy stupid things is BS... No one is that stupid, to not use shoot from distance if enemy is much more dangerous in close fight.

These are comic book characters fighting in a comic book world in a scenario on a site called COMICvine. An in No comic does a warrior like SS fly around invisible shooting fireballs...an if anyone has an won fighting this way... show me an ill concede. Otherwise my logic stands. They will go toe to toe an SS loses.

Dont get me wrong i agree with what ppl are saying in that flying around invisible shooting fire balls is the perfect strategy. But their is enough history on SS to know he wouldnt fight that way anyways, an you have to take that into account, even if you dont agree with me.

Im not sure your stance on this fight but tell me, if they went toe to toe that Herc wouldn't take him?

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Had assistance!?!? LOOK at that skrull... he's done...spent...herc could of done many things at point, like slam him, then go over, grab the bone an impale him with it.

An for everyone saying SS to fast an that Herc would lose because he cant fly, stop it... if this fight happens in comics, then judge it off of blow for blow and alien to god cause some of yall reasoning would put ironman vs hulk in favor of ironman 10/10 by staying a mile away an shooting him from afar. BS it never happens that way an if it has prove it an ill concede.

Thing strength isn't shit compared to Herc (he dragged Manhattan) an yall think a force field from IW can stand up to someone who can do that? An NO amount of fire can hurt Herc NONE... hes been to hell an back...Mr. Fantastic has the best shot to beat Herc out of the FF but not because of stretching but his brain power which SS doesn't have as much of.

SS is a warrior he will want a real fight, an Herc would provide him that GIFT

Herc will out last SS in an all out, drag out brawl. Not easy, but will come out on top.

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This is in celebration of the new Bowen Hercules Statue yet to be released, the Marvel Universe Hercules yet to be release, an the induction of Hercules in the "Avengers Alliance" game (which i dont play heh). Its good to be a fan atm, but damn if a wasn't pissed he didnt make an appearance in any damn cartoons/comics ("Avengers Earths Mightest Heroes" im looking at you). Thought for sure he would show up. If their would be one more season, i would be positive..but cancelled... :/