Staying True To The Series?

When a Specific creative Team Launches a title OR takes Over for a long enough time to make some significant changes , should the NEW creative Team honor what the Previous Writer/artists tried to convey? Or Should they Go in a complete different direction? This is the Problem with many titles these days, and the truth is, you never really win, because for one thing, the previous creative team could be bad, so a Fan might want something new brought to the table to forget what had already been done, in either case, It's fine to go in a different direction, but they team must honor the old one, always.

Great Art but The Writing? Not so Much

But that of course Depends on the circumstances. Say you have an established character, and lets say that he/she is getting a new relaunch series , but the new creative team simply ignore context and do what they want with the character, and they simply ignore everything that had been done with the character. This is very bad, because when the ALREADY established characters are butchered, the following creative team will Base their characterization on the creative team before them, so they characters could be completely butchered. Take Daniel Ways the Thunderbolts as an example, where almost every character is off in some way, because way wanted to do his own thing. again, this is fine, but you don't have to change the Characters personalities JUST simply because you want to try something new, you can do that BY staying true to the characters. To explain what i mean, i'll have to bring up red hulk. I Wasn't rulks fan when he was created, seriously, i hated him, for one thing, a simple change of color seemed useless, and loebs execution was just bad, Red Hulk was a brutish arse who punched people and won almost every fight he fought. Anyways, when Jeff Parker came along, i wasn't the enthusiastic, but one of the users here on CV( X35), who knows bad writing a mile away, said that it was really good, and worth checking out, i read scorched earth, and then i finished the whole thing. Point is, Jeff started where loeb ended and somehow, he stayed true to rulks character, and still made him so much more than just a brick, and thanks to him Rulk is right now one of my favorite characters. .

But Daniel way has rulk acting completely out of character, and way is to be replayed by Charles soule. There are two ways this can go down, either Charles soule will start with ways shtick and then evolve into something else, or he will keep the characters the way Way portrayed them. i really hope Charles soule stays more true to the characters, and i hope he bases his characterization on jeff parker. This is exactly the problem , i'm sure Charles is a great writer who will provide good story lines, and i can't blame him if he makes rulk similar to the way Way( this is probably annoying you right now) made him out to be, because Daniel decided to ignore context, there is a good chance that Charles will portray the team similarly.

But Something completely different happens at times, and a Great example of this Is haunt. In Thunderbolts's Case , the characters have some specific background established, but haunt was something new and unique, so while way could have based his characters on the previous writers, which he did not, the new creative team for Haunt had only ONE interpretation to follow.

AW YEA!

Seriously, THEY HAD ONE JOB! Haunt was something great, The main characters, Danny and Kurt where very cool and different from one another, they interacted with other characters, had a great supporting cast and had a great main villain( as well as other foes). But as soon as the new Creative team launched, the main villain was Gone, never to be seen again, the agency which played a great supporting cast in general was Basically REMOVED , a new villain and a supporting character was shoved down our throats , and The last But not least, the MAIN problem is that the main characters are completely changed, Especially kurt. Kurt wasn't the nicest guy around, but he was good to his brother, and actually cared about him, and tried to help him during his difficulties, but Casey Made him a total A$$h*le , seriously this is definitely not the same guy , he even abandoned his brother during a crises, and fights him for control every time, and the ONLY explanation we get for this is that " kurt is going insane because he's dead', seriously? no, just no. I'd be fine with this IF there had been some character progression that could have shown why kurt became insane, but no, he just changes personality, without any development whatsoever. Of course, i'd be Okay with it if THIS was how the series had started, but since it didn't, it sucks, because this is not the same character. However, Todd Mcfarlane is coming back to maybe we'd finely get Haunt back to it's original roots.

My point is, that NEW BLOOD has to honor what the predecessors have done, otherwise the Next creative team will base their characterization on the wrong creative team, which might be exactly what happen with Charles sloule ( at least Todd is coming back to the title).

Thanks for reading.

9 Comments
9 Comments
Posted by theTimeStreamer

i get what you're saying man. same thing x-force. look at psylocke how she was when remender ended and how humphries portrais her. total extreme opposites. most we can hope for is a change in creative team or another book where the characters are done right.

Posted by TheAcidSkull

i get what you're saying man. same thing x-force. look at psylocke how she was when remender ended and how humphries portrais her. total extreme opposites. most we can hope for is a change in creative team or another book where the characters are done right.

Exactly, look i get that writers want to do their own thing, but they should at least pay their respects to their predecessors. Like Jeff Parker.

Edited by theTimeStreamer

@theacidskull: yes. a little respect. a nod here, a wink there. nothing big. and even more important: give a good reason for the sudden change in a character's personality. somebody close died, wife dumped him, lost a limb, feeling a little crazy or reckless. we can roll with that.

Posted by TheAcidSkull

@theacidskull: yes. a little respect. a nod here, a wink there. nothing big. and even more important: give a good reason for the sudden change in a character's personality. somebody close died, wife dumped him, lost a limb, feeling a little crazy or reckless. we can roll with that.

yeah, but it should be at least developed, not just "OH NUUUUU, MY WIFE JUST DIED SO NOW I'M AN ARSE BECAUSE THATS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOUR WIFE DIESZ!". if someone goes insane, i'd like to see the process.

Posted by theTimeStreamer

@theacidskull: no, nothing so brutal. like random issue 16 character x is good hearted hero and his friend dies and in 17 he's eating puppies 3x a day. don't blow your whole development in 1 issue, give it bit by bit, show the frustration, the heartbrake, the guilt and then when he's tried and tried and cant take anymore then he can eat the puppies. make us believe it and think 'if i were in his shoes i'd probably do that. that seems real.' and i know i'm mentioning rememder again but he did an awesome job with deadpool and his relation with evan. before his run i never thought deadpool could be serious and care so much about anyone. but rememder did. sure at first he took DP as he was a smart mouth killer and bit by bit he eased us into the spin he wanted to put on the character. and it worked it was believable. but now DP is back to punchline, pop culture reference and stab stab.

Edited by TheAcidSkull

@theacidskull: no, nothing so brutal. like random issue 16 character x is good hearted hero and his friend dies and in 17 he's eating puppies 3x a day. don't blow your whole development in 1 issue, give it bit by bit, show the frustration, the heartbrake, the guilt and then when he's tried and tried and cant take anymore then he can eat the puppies. make us believe it and think 'if i were in his shoes i'd probably do that. that seems real.' and i know i'm mentioning rememder again but he did an awesome job with deadpool and his relation with evan. before his run i never thought deadpool could be serious and care so much about anyone. but rememder did. sure at first he took DP as he was a smart mouth killer and bit by bit he eased us into the spin he wanted to put on the character. and it worked it was believable. but now DP is back to punchline, pop culture reference and stab stab.

Well to Be fair Deadpool seems to still be struggling with his morals as he is put in a positon to kill innocent people ( issue 9), which is exactly what i mean, the new writer mixes the funny and serious deadpool well, and does how own thing a long with it. and i totally agree, for example in haunt 18 kurt is a great guy, who is still sad about the ONE womans death( who he didn't even know well), but in issue 19 he becomes a reckless d*ck.

Edited by theTimeStreamer

@theacidskull: havent been reading DP or any comics for a while. needed a break. too much not good writting with the characters i like. some not all. but yeah. as the saying goes: sh*t happens.

Posted by TheAcidSkull

@theacidskull: havent been reading DP or any comics for a while. needed a break. too much not good writting with the characters i like. some not all. but yeah. as the saying goes: sh*t happens.

yup

Edited by Myrmidon_

Bro, fakin nice job