i doubt bats in a random encounter could survive maverick especially in a h2h fight with his armor and ability to absorb kinetic energy and add his HF... he is too much for bats in h2h... maverick got gutted by sabe as a warning to bring logan to their nxt fight he stood up to face sabe and watched him leave.. i think most ppl forget that david has a healing factor just b/c he doesnt have insane showing of it... even when sabe gutted him he was holding his stomach but it did heal for the nxt issue." Nord isn't quite the same level assassin Slade is. He was the only villain I've ever seen that toyed around with a prime Batman.
" I'll conclude by saying this: How can Logan lose to Toxin if he's beaten Savage Hulk, Apocalypse Sabretooth, etc. Him not making Venom flinch is PIS in it's own regard if he can momentarily stun guys like WWH and Ulik. "
As I'll conclude by saying this: And yet, he gets KOed by people of far lesser power level...Cap, Cyclops (beam), normal humans while in captivity, Spider-man punching his head against a tombstone...And for the opponents you list: WWH KOed Logan. He never beat Apocalypse (!!!), and I can't recall him beating the Savage Hulk recently...He only clearly had the upper hand when he was transformed to Death by Apocalypse himself...And you do realize Sabretooth is numerous levels below any symbiote host, right..? On second thought, don't answer this..."
I never said he beat Apoc, I said he beat Sabretooth (transformed by Apoc with adamantium). Wolverine beat Savage Hulk in a recent Hulk/Wolverine Earth-616 matchup. BTW what idiot seriously thinks that Logan can stand up to Apoc?
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