Buckshot: I don't know quite enough about Apollo yet to make it a back-and-forth debate, but I will add that J'onn doesn't have the best track record against Adam. Granted, he didn't use his powerset as effectively as he could have in any of their fights I've seen, but they were damn impressive displays from Adam. In fact, I recall BA knocking him out cold in 3-4 shots in one of their encounters.
If on his A-game, he absolutely can. He should actually have a rather easy time closing the distance, cutting off the environment and roughing each of them up.
Honestly (and perhaps sadly), I became a fan after ruling the local arcade with him in the Marvel Super Heroes game. Before that, he was just Mephisto's son to me. Nothing more, nothing less. But that's for another time. The reason why I made this thread is for fans of his like jloneblackheart who have got to be beside themselves merely thinking about how badly writers have tortured him through the years (and, obviously, very recently as well). The thing that bothers me the most, aside from obvious potential that hasn't come close to being fulfilled, is the fact that he's placed in a lose-lose scenario in literally every appearance nowadays. You can't have him stomp a physically overmatched opponent for the duration of an issue (which, on paper, should happen in most of the times he's featured), which is self-explanitary, so he's turned into a chump by writers instead just so a cash cow or mainstream character can pull off the seemingly unthinkable (although the frequent use of PIS makes it ever-so predictable). I mean, there's got to be a solution where he at least has the opportunity to prove himself the force to be reckoned with that he should be. Or, hell, loses in a certain fashion that's understandable. In other words, please stop having freaking Daredevil and other street-levelers show roughly the same respect for him as an opponent that they would show Melvin Potter. It's pretty damn lame to have him bowing down to his father in a Venom comic with the look of a five-year old who just lost a game of freeze tag.
Damn.. I feel bad for making so many spite threads.
It's not a spite thread at all. Elektra is an amazing fighter, this just happens to be a tough stylistic matchup for her. Definitely not a mismatch or anything, though.
Manhattan. He is omnipotent level. I'm not sure Thanos and DS could win even with the infinity gauntlet.
Thanos imposed his will across the multiverse w/ the IG, imprisoning Eternity with literally zero effort in the process. Manhattan imposed his will in Vietnam.
Not worth mentioning the two in the same sentence.
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