The_Mayhem_Theory

@The_Mayhem_Theory: He's still not even remotely as fast as Flash. He's going to have trouble tagging Wally to begin with. And when Wally accelerates, it's pretty much over.

Also when has Vegeta consistently moved at FTL for more than a few seconds?

Since when? I call BS on that one.

@Pistolwhip1: I'm sorry but MDS needs to be more popular to beat RKT in this thread, people here don't know about who MDS is that's why they just automatically announce that RKT will be the winner.According to my observation, it doesn't matter how strong he is, but if people from this community doesn't know him, it's automatic lose

@The_Mayhem_Theory said:

That appears to be Vegeta from the 25th Budokai Tenkaiichi. He was nearing SSJ2 (before Babidi's Majin 'transformation'), which puts him at FLT speeds. This should be hiswin.

How? Flash's speed is so much faster then light it isn't funny. The guy's ridiculous.

Nope. Thor is superman with magic and energy manipulation. Goku has nothing to combat this. Whatever goku throws at him thor can absorb and redirect. Thor takes,

Goku wins...

Also no Anime vs Comics are allowed.

@nickzambuto: I think you are missing why no one has really posted an defense for Superman.

There isn't a single person here that is really going to be swayed to one side or the other. Making debating this extremely pointless.

If we were to take every feat by superman/Goku and line them up, both Characters would come out outrageously inconsistent. But Superman's over all feats put him above Goku as powerful as he might be.

No one is lowballing him or DBZ, but the on goings of that universe are outright silly.

Cell said he could destroy the entire universe, but Gohan beat him out beam to beam and not only did the planet they were one not crumble beneath them, but nothing was actually destroyed but cell.

Goku said he could have beat Fat Buu in SSJ3 three, but gets stomped by Kid Buu who is supposed to be weaker.

Goku tanks Energy blast of unknown power but get burned by fire in SSJ4.

I doubt any one is trying to start a flame war or lowball the DBZ characters. It's just pointless to debate someone or something when later those same people are just going to say it's not true or won't accept the facts presented.

Wow is silver surfer really that strong?

@The_Mayhem_Theory: I make a King Thor vs All-Star Superman thread tagging both of us. We debate over who wins. At the end the users vote on who won, unless one of us concedes.