prove it you cant supes just used it. hal is not useless he can get parallax since he is bloodlusted and beat ss and supes ss is above no one he let thor dent his head what a head butt that proves he is above no one so stop it.....
Show me or tell which comic he just used it in, otherwise, it's still retconned out of continuity. Hal is useless, but Parallax isn't part of the scenario. Surfer is above Superman and Green Lantern by far. And as long as I believe he is, I'll continue to debate it.
i have no problem debating show me were they say it was you cant it is not and ss is not above hal or supes.
Just wanted to say that Superman hasn't used Torquasm-vo since that Dominus and Eradicator run, and DC has mentioned awhile back that they've done away with Superman's non-traditional abilities, and since then has not shown Torquasm-Vo in any way, shape, or form. That's why it's more logical at this moment to assume that Torquasm-vo has been retconned than to assume it has not. In this particular case, the absence of evidence really does lean towards being evidence of absence, where TV is concerned. Considering the specific conditions of the fight, I must agree with Dark Cloud that Superman does not possess such ability and thus unable to use it. Sorry.
I'm not an avid fan of Star Wars, so I don't know who exactly would win. I am giving my vote to Vader on account that he is more publicly known.
I'm shutting this down now. No offense intended, but it needs to be done. Vader was beaten by Luke Skywalker after Luke received a single year of training (in the year 4 ABY). Caedus (Jacen) beat and almost killed Grantmaster Luke Skywalker, who had over 35 years of training (in 40 ABY) and is considered the greatest Jedi to ever live. At one point he took blasts from AT-ATs (which are around bunker crushing levels) straight on without flinching, followed by simply gesturing to knock the AT-AT over. And THAT is Luke after about 7 years of training (10 ABY).
I should pick up some Star Wars comics and read a couple books. Sounds awesome.
The Bats may win by popularity votes, but I believe Steve, tutoring Bucky, have greater combat experience and martial skills. Steve is also highly effective with the Shield.
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