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#1 Posted by The Lobster (1521 posts) - - Show Bio

Here's the things. I think Deadpool could win any fight if he REALLY wanted to. But usually his attention span and low tolerance for wasting his own time usually means he doesn't care if he wins or loses. Deadpool once said it best, "You may kill me first, but I guarantee I will kill you last."

What I'm basically getting at is even if he's fighting against someone like.....Thor.....He'd probably lose that fight 99.9% of the time. But his immortality and healing factor gives him an unlimited amount of do-overs and chances to try again. Eventually he's bound to win, whether by exhausting his enemy or driving them so crazy that they eventually surrender.

So do I think Deadpool could win a battle against some of the most powerful heroes in the universe?......No......But if he was willing to really commit to the idea of killing one of them (Which as I've already said is probably extremely unlikely), over time....I'm confident he'd eventually win.

#2 Posted by The Lobster (1521 posts) - - Show Bio

@the_lobster_ said:

@knightsofdarkness2 said:

@the_lobster_ said:

@knightsofdarkness2 said:

@dagmar_merrill said:

@knightsofdarkness2: The first one for sure.

To this, I respond......

If he could grow a new head after Punisher blows it up into nothing but bits and pieces......I'm sure he'd grow a new one after Wolverine cuts it off. Deadpool is quite literally cursed with immortality by Thanos.....why do people seem to refuse to accept the fact that nothing can kill him?

His mind doesn't have to be blown up to kill him, it has to be CUT off for a period of time. And that Wolverine scan I posted took place BEFORE he was cursed by Thanos.

You missed my point, the point is that he can regrow a new head. So even if Wolverine cut off his head and they didn't reattach it for a period of time he would just regrow a new head. So no, it wouldn't kill him......Also, you're wrong. The Wolverine scan happened in Cable and Deadpool issue 44 that was released in 2007. Deadpool was cursed by Thanos in Deadpool Volume 1 issue 62 in 2002.

Yes, he can grow a new head but it has to be close to his body or else oxygen deprivation rots his brain and Nightcrawler killed Deadpool in Age of Apocalypse using that same method.

Plus the stories could be set in different universes where Deadpool HASN'T been cursed, so he CAN be killed without the curse of Thanos.

Again, you seem to be missing or misunderstanding what I'm saying. He can regrow a new head!! The old head has nothing to do with it. Even if the old head that got cut off gets oxygen deprived and rots his brain, it doesn't matter cause his body will just regrow a new head from scratch in a few days time if it's not reattached.

Nightcrawler killing Deadpool in Age of Apocalypse doesn't matter, different Deadpool, different powers, different continuity. The question the guy who started this forum was if the Deadpool in the 616 universe could be killed. He didn't ask if other versions could be killed, he's talking about THE Deadpool from THE normal marvel universe we read. Which he can't, he's immortal. That's already been established. He's cursed with immortality.

Cable and Deadpool and Deadpool Volume 1 are both set in the 616 universe. Events that happened in both those series are part of the marvel comic book universe continuity. They aren't set in different universes.

The Deadpool that we read.....who resides in the universe that mass audiences follow..... is immortal.

#3 Posted by The Lobster (1521 posts) - - Show Bio

@the_lobster_ said:

@knightsofdarkness2 said:

@dagmar_merrill said:

@knightsofdarkness2: The first one for sure.

To this, I respond......

If he could grow a new head after Punisher blows it up into nothing but bits and pieces......I'm sure he'd grow a new one after Wolverine cuts it off. Deadpool is quite literally cursed with immortality by Thanos.....why do people seem to refuse to accept the fact that nothing can kill him?

His mind doesn't have to be blown up to kill him, it has to be CUT off for a period of time. And that Wolverine scan I posted took place BEFORE he was cursed by Thanos.

You missed my point, the point is that he can regrow a new head. So even if Wolverine cut off his head and they didn't reattach it for a period of time he would just regrow a new head. So no, it wouldn't kill him......Also, you're wrong. The Wolverine scan happened in Cable and Deadpool issue 44 that was released in 2007. Deadpool was cursed by Thanos in Deadpool Volume 1 issue 62 in 2002.

#4 Edited by The Lobster (1521 posts) - - Show Bio

@dagmar_merrill said:

@knightsofdarkness2: The first one for sure.

To this, I respond......

If he could grow a new head after Punisher blows it up into nothing but bits and pieces......I'm sure he'd grow a new one after Wolverine cuts it off. Deadpool is quite literally cursed with immortality by Thanos.....why do people seem to refuse to accept the fact that nothing can kill him?

#5 Posted by The Lobster (1521 posts) - - Show Bio

Deadpool can totally be done in a PG13 setting.

In fact a PG-13 setting might open itself up to a ton of funny jokes. They could do a 4th wall swearing joke like in Scott Pilgrim or the classic conveniently located object blocking the view for the audience in terms of violence or nudity.

Like this....

#6 Edited by The Lobster (1521 posts) - - Show Bio

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO THIS IS NOT DEADPOOL MONTH!!! DEADPOOL NEEDS TO STOP HIJACKING CYCLOP'S SPOTLIGHT LIKE WOLVERINE!!!!!!!

The list is good, but isn't it Cyclops month?

#7 Edited by The Lobster (1521 posts) - - Show Bio

I agree that Joe Kelly's run is essential when it comes to being a fan of Deadpool. His run is probably some of the best stuff to have ever happen to the character.....and come on, who doesn't like Blind Al or Weasel.

I know that I'm one of the biggest Anti-Daniel way on this site....but again, I support the fact that if people like his stuff, that's fine. What angers me are the people who have ONLY read his run and claim it's the best thing ever. That I can't support. If you only read Deadpool at his worst, than you have no idea what he's like at his best.

Seriously though.....Joe Kelly's run is a must read.....and Gerry Duggan and Brian Poshen's stuff is up there as well.

#8 Edited by The Lobster (1521 posts) - - Show Bio

He was just an overall lazy writer, with a poor grasp on the charcter. He pretty much took a great character, and dumbed him down for a mass audience.

How lazy was he?

Well, he introduced the the voices with no explanation other than Daniel Way needing an excuse to not need a supporting cast. Read some of his interviews. He flat out admits it. He wrote the voices so the book wouldn't become, "Deadpool and Friends." Which is an excuse for not wanting to write more than one character. Besides, Deadpool was usually the kind of person who would seek out people to say funny things to. Like his friends or side characters (Weasel, Bob, Agent X, Outlaw, Bullseye, or Blind Al). Heck Blind Al used to live with him, so she was always there to chat with him. That's why he kept her "hostage", because he needed someone in his life who was always there for him. That's the point of having side characters, so that you don't need voices in the character's head. Anything the voices do in a thematic or practical sense could be done with one of Deadpool's side characters. So why bother having voices at all? Instead of Deadpool talking to himself....why not just have him talk to Weasel over the phone?

Imagine it like this. Imagine if a writer decided to say....."you know, Wolverine is too violent and he's alienating the child audiences we have.....hurm....I think I'll take away his claws." Then you read the first issue of this writers series and Wolverine suddenly has no claws and instead just fights with his fist. No explanation how he lost them, no continuity, just no more claws anymore. People would throw a hissy fit and crucify this writer. Should Daniel Way get a get out of continuity free card just because he can use the excuse that Deadpool is crazy?

Plus, the voices ruin one of Deadpool's most iconic traits....his motormouth? How is he the merc with the mouth when all of his jokes are inside his head?

Not to mention, Before Way, Deadpool was a complex, deeply scared crying clown....and not just Peter Griffin in a mask who heard voices and saw hallucinations because, well, that's what crazy means right? Yes Daniel Way....but Deadpool was never THAT kind of crazy. Making him THAT kind of crazy is a huge step backward from the character he already was.

Then there's the fact, he ignored all continuity and thought he can just start anew and ignore everything that came before. He only mentions something that came before if it serves a purpose to his story, he doesn't care if he writes something that contradicts everything that came before....so long as he can write his little story. He didn't care if what he's having the character do is out of character and goes against everything that character is, just as long as it makes for a good moment. He wrote jokes than told stories around those jokes.....instead of writing a story and having the jokes stem from that story.

The only thing I could say that was positive about Way's run was that he had some good ideas, but they were executed terribly.

#9 Edited by The Lobster (1521 posts) - - Show Bio

@jayc1324 said:

Please no Ryan Reynolds. Didn't like his version in origins and he doesn't look like he'd be a good one. I want cancer face deadpool

He respects the character.

Yeah, he respects him so much that he actually let FOX studios and the writers get away with butchering the character.

Honestly, I'm stoked for the movie. After seeing the Deadpool test footage, I honestly think they're going to do it and do it right. Tim Miller seems to have a unique style and respect for the character, the writer I know can do action comedy after seeing Zombieland, and even thought I kinda felt Reynold's delivery with some of the lines in the test footage felt off I do think he'll do the character justice.

This is great news, CHIMICHANGAS FOR EVERYONE!!!!!!!!!!

#10 Posted by The Lobster (1521 posts) - - Show Bio

@the_lobster_ said:

@freddy_blairer said:

Deadpool vs Freddy Krueger, who wins!?

Deadpool.

Freddy Krueger would try to kill him in his dream but he'd find it just as doable as when he tried to kill Jason. Deadpool's healing factor would keep him alive and kicking. Eventually spending to much time in Deadpool's head would wear down on Freddy and he'd probably kill himself to end the noise and insanity or run away with his tail between his legs. Either way, it's a win for Deadpool.

A win for Deadpool? Freddy's immortal. I think it's a stalemate :3

A win doesn't mean a kill.