the human Juggernaut

@Larkin1388 said:

@Vance Astro said:

She Hulk rips off his helmet and then Storm sits back and watches as Jean mind rapes the sh#t out of him.

This...

no, juggernaut can 1 shot she hulk and storn and jean can both do nothing

@LordOfAllHumans said:

@the human Juggernaut said:

@LordOfAllHumans said:

@Joygirl said:

Shulkie is irrelevant. Her heavy hitting means nothing since he's totally indestructible. Same with Storm. Their only hope is to remove his helmet before getting squished, and if Juggy's head is in the fight he can put up his forcefield and they will have an approximately 0% chance of getting his helmet off. Then their best chance of living is to run. Juggernaut wins hard.

Jean does not need to remove his helmet to get into his mind, she has used psi bolts and she has used mind rape, both times he was shocked that she could do it.

i guess every time he fights the xmen they forget all about that?

whether they do or whether they don't she has done it twice to, and it is instant and he was shocked both times at the strength of her power, which is the point, for the most part Xavier is the one that can't get through the helmet and being called the most powerful telepath on Earth it's safe to say nobody else would be able to do things telepathically if he can't, save Jean whom he always knew was more powerful and able to accomplish what he would deem telepathically impossible.
.@Joygirl said:

All of the is discounting the fact that Juggernaut knows Jean -- well, at this point -- and will be attempting to smush her. Again, She-Hulk is a non-factor, she'll be like a gorilla attacking a tank. Wind an lightning will not stop the Juggernaut. How long will it take for Jean to mindrape him with his helmet on? Because if it takes ANY time at all....

It's instant, it was both times, the psi blast and the mind rape, and she can fly because she knows him just as well.

when?

@LordOfAllHumans said:

@Joygirl said:

Shulkie is irrelevant. Her heavy hitting means nothing since he's totally indestructible. Same with Storm. Their only hope is to remove his helmet before getting squished, and if Juggy's head is in the fight he can put up his forcefield and they will have an approximately 0% chance of getting his helmet off. Then their best chance of living is to run. Juggernaut wins hard.

Jean does not need to remove his helmet to get into his mind, she has used psi bolts and she has used mind rape, both times he was shocked that she could do it.

i guess every time he fights the xmen they forget all about that?

@CapitolPunishment said:

@czarny_samael666:

I think I have to go with Thor here (if he is allowed). IMO he is more powerful than any of the annihilators were with the execption of the SS who is now depowered and Thor is slightly above both BRB and Quasar. To the people saying Blue Marvel it was probably meant as a joke but Blue Marvel does not have nearly enough showings to rank him here. Earlier when he Kuurth still had Juggernauts power Thor said he could not beat him.Kuurth lost the power Cyttorak granted him so I believe if Thor fought him now he would kill him.

When?

@Fluke-buddha said:

@the human Juggernaut said:

@Fluke-buddha said:

@pooty said:

@Fluke-buddha: No even in his official bio it says that Juggs is invulnerable AND then it talks about his forcefield. It is 2 different things. Thor had 60 seconds to put down Juggs without his force field and couldn't do it. Colossus(with Cytoraks) power shows no force field but can't be stopped. Same with Juggs. Wolverine has been able to get past the force field and injure Juggs eye but it healed up. So even if you get past his force field you still can't beat him by force. If you have proof showing otherwise please present it

Just because Thor couldn't put Juggs down in 60 seconds means nothing. Juggs is still plenty tough without the forcefield, he's just not invulnerable. No Juggs is not invulnerable without the forcefield, the forcefield is the source of his invulnerability everyone knows that. It's illogical that Cyttorak would give him invulnerability and a forcefield that provides invulnerability. You are simply wrong on this account. The very fact that you admit Wolverine injured him proves you are wrong and are not thinking about this clearly. If Juggs was still invulnerably without the forcefield, Wolverine would not have been able to injure him, period. Your confusing fast recovery with invulnerability. Juggs can be beaten by force, he's been beaten by force a lot over the years. Just because he healed from Wolverine poking him in the eye means absolutely nothing. Unless you seriously think Wolverines claws are the most powerful thing in the Marvel U. WWHulk beat the hell out of so many people I find it astounding you think a jobber like Juggs could beat him alone. WWHulk is much stronger than Juggs, and without the invulnerability, he isn't going to be able to outlast WWHulk is a fight. Juggs simply doesn't have the strength to put WWHulk down before he himself loses.

Jesus Christ.

If you disagree thats fine. Want to clue me in on more accurate information, even better. But don't make douche posts like this. This contributed nothing to the thread.

ok. The force field is not the source of his invulnerability. Not everyone "knows" what you said. I'll make whatever posts i want, using whatever tone I care to use too, thanks.

@pooty said:

@the human Juggernaut: Ok then what is true about the force field? WHen Thor took the forcefield away it appeared that he was being affected by the blows more than when the force field was active. And we know he laughs at bullets and lightning but that was all with the force field. What is the purpose of the force field if it doesn't help?

no, its not with the force field. The forcefield is always visible when in use.Tt doesn't follow the contours of his body either.

@HellionVulcan said:

@the human Juggernaut said:

@HellionVulcan said:

@MagneticTempest said:

WWH was beating Juggernaut. He can beat Kuurth too.

Juggernaut was beating wwhulk & was stronger then him but which version of kuurth are u using ? when he was powered by two gods or one as both could hurt hulk bad i mean with only the serpents power kuurth smashed colossus's skull while powered by Cyttorak a feat wwhulk couldn't do or any hulk but Juggernaut can't be KO or killed by any hulk maybe besides cosmic hulk .

that was exaggeration by colossus. His helmet wasn't even broken.

his helmet was dented & colossus was bleeding from his mouth/face plus his Hemet could hide the damage to his skull as we can't see through it .

Colossus when armored can't bleed blood, so that artist was wrong.

@HellionVulcan said:

@MagneticTempest said:

WWH was beating Juggernaut. He can beat Kuurth too.

Juggernaut was beating wwhulk & was stronger then him but which version of kuurth are u using ? when he was powered by two gods or one as both could hurt hulk bad i mean with only the serpents power kuurth smashed colossus's skull while powered by Cyttorak a feat wwhulk couldn't do or any hulk but Juggernaut can't be KO or killed by any hulk maybe besides cosmic hulk .

that was exaggeration by colossus. His helmet wasn't even broken.

@Outside_85 said:

@tron_bonne said:

Juggernaut is actually pretty smart. He was the rival of Charles Xavier before Magneto. Juggernaut learned how to use spells and that takes some kind of understanding. Anyway, Let's say she gained her full power of Trigon. She would be able to play ping pong with Juggernaut. But like I said, If Juggernaut doesn't play jobber, he would still be able to fight against her with ease.

This is a scan of Juggernaut fighting Nightmare. In this comic. Nightmare leagues and beyond the power level of Mephisto.

And that's just normal Classic Juggernaut. Just imagine 8th Day Juggernaut more powerful and more resilient to emathic and telepathic assaults.

Sadly you highlight one of the problems with Juggs...hes simply too powerful; you cant beat him physically because of the unstoppable momentum powers, you cant get to him mentally because of this 'magic' helmet, you can barely get to him magically since he is backed by some N'th level magical entity that kicks the red out of just about anyone else. Added that, again, only Hulk appears to have been smart enough to turn his own momentum against him, everyone tries to lock horns with him like a bull would take on a locomotive...

the hulk usually wins by leaving.

@pooty said:

@the human Juggernaut: Ok then what is true about the force field? WHen Thor took the forcefield away it appeared that he was being affected by the blows more than when the force field was active. And we know he laughs at bullets and lightning but that was all with the force field. What is the purpose of the force field if it doesn't help?

that was an ignorant writer. He almost never uses the force field. You can always see it when he uses it. He's been hit countless times by many powerful people, and hasn't been hurt by them.