ASM #649 Spoilers Inside

RIP Roderick Kingsley. :'(  
Words cannot convey just how angry and upset today's issue of Amazing Spider-Man #649 made me. They say a picture's worth a thousand words, right? Well, hopefully this picture I drew will help you understand where I'm coming from as well as my thoughts and feelings on the issue.
 

 
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Posted by Joeybagad0nutz

You know if this is Spoilers, you shouldn't make it obvious. And what happen I didn't remember the issue.
Posted by danhimself

wow thanks a lot for spoiling the issue for me by making your thread title that....thanks a lot

Posted by hydrabob--defunct

yeah man this is kinda a spoiler on the issue

Posted by InnerVenom123

I knew you'd end up making a thread about this! I'm sorry man! :( I was hoping for Kingsley to have a little reign of terror! 
 

Posted by The Hobgoblin

@InnerVenom123: I know man, I know. I'm soooooooo disappointed. :'(
@hydrabob said:

"yeah man this is kinda a spoiler on the issue "


@danhimself said:

"wow thanks a lot for spoiling the issue for me by making your thread title that....thanks a lot "


@JoeRiccadonna said:

"You know if this is Spoilers, you shouldn't make it obvious. And what happen I didn't remember the issue. "


Sorry guys, I apologize. Title fixed. 
 

Posted by Joeybagad0nutz

So, what happened? I don't mind being spoiled...
Posted by InnerVenom123
@The Hobgoblin: On the bright side....
 
Posted by Grim Tracker X

yea what what happen i would like to know

Posted by InnerVenom123
@JoeRiccadonna said:
" So, what happened? I don't mind being spoiled... "

Posted by The Hobgoblin

@InnerVenom123:
What's on the bright side, again? I wasn't aware there was one.

Posted by InnerVenom123
@The Hobgoblin: Did you read what I typed? :p
Posted by The Hobgoblin
@InnerVenom123:
It wasn't showing up for the longest time; it kept sending me to the top of the page. And maybe you're right; maybe Kingsley did send a dupe or LMD in his stead. And I'd be on board for a Hobgoblin War.
Edited by joshuacarpino

i just read asm #649. i would have gladly written my own article about this,but this site will not allow me to create my own no matter what i do. the original hobgoblin has been my favorite super villian since his hayday in the 80's...which is to say all my life,since i was born in the early 80's. in 96' when it was revealed he was still alive that made my winter,and his appearences have been few since then. and now...they brought him back to regular spider-man continuity just to unceremoniously kill him off. and that's the half of it. to kill him in such a cheap shoddy stunt,at the hands of THAT character...anyway,it's the last straw for me. spider-man as a comic book has been going downhill for years in terms of quality to the point where i've been waiting for an excuse to never read it again. and this is it. "the most unkindest cut of all". i was already a little worried when i heard that dan slott(who i used to like when he wrote ren and stimpy) was writing this,because i'm still smarting from how he botched the return of mysterio. but nothing in my wildest dreams could have prepared me for this.i didn't even bother to read the rest of the issue. tore it into little strips. if there's a comic book hell,dan slott is going there. SIC TRANSIT GLORIA KINGSLEY.
Posted by The Hobgoblin
@joshuacarpino:
I agree with 100% of everthing you just said. I think you and me are going to get along quite nicely, pal.
Edited by joshuacarpino

keep the faith hobgoblin. and be a pal and tell me how to create my own articles,huh?
Posted by InnerVenom123

Uric did NOT deserve this mantle. Out of every ASM Dan Slott thing I've read, I've liked them all. This is the one plot development I am not a fan of.

Posted by The Hobgoblin
@joshuacarpino:
I will. And when you say article, do you mean a blog like this or an actual article on the front page? Because if that's what you meant, only a staff, maybe moderator can do that for you. Believe me, I'd have whipped one up myself if I could've.
Posted by joshuacarpino
@The Hobgoblin:
i mean a blog.
Posted by The Hobgoblin
@joshuacarpino:
Simply go to the top of your profile page and there should be a gold star next to what says "New Blog". CLick on it and go from there. I hope this helps.
Posted by The Hobgoblin
@InnerVenom123:
Same here, Inner Venom. I usually like Slott's work, but this is just downright BAD.
Posted by joshuacarpino

thanks.
Posted by The Hobgoblin
@joshuacarpino:
No problemo, man. Happy to help.
Posted by InnerVenom123
@The Hobgoblin said:
" @InnerVenom123: Same here, Inner Venom. I usually like Slott's work, but this is just downright BAD. "
For the record, I thought the entire rest of the issue was pure gold. :p "Porn! MOUNTAINS OF PORN!" ... never have I laughed so hard at a Spider-man comi-- wait I take that back. Kelly's writing makes me LOL as well.
Posted by hydrabob--defunct

I've just strated reading ASM since Big Tome started but yeah how they handled HobGoblin was weird
 

Posted by The Hobgoblin
@hydrabob:
I agree; I thought the same thing. Something is definitely amiss, here.
Posted by Avenging-X-Bolt

PHIL IS BACK!!!!  
 
i preffered him as hero green goblin but new hobgoblins good enough for me      
 
*does Happy Dance*
Posted by Avenging-X-Bolt

 
 
im sorry but thats just funny as fuck   
Posted by InnerVenom123
@Avenging-X-Bolt said:
"
  im sorry but thats just funny as fuck    "
Agreed. A slap in the face to Kingsley fans, but still hilarious.
Posted by Avenging-X-Bolt
@InnerVenom123:
and its not like he stuck his hand up there and tried to make the lips move...........or stuffed him in a cigar box
Posted by InnerVenom123
@Avenging-X-Bolt said:
" @InnerVenom123: and its not like he stuck his hand up there and tried to make the lips move...........or stuffed him in a cigar box "
...... oh my god.... the mental images.....
Posted by Avenging-X-Bolt

Whoa i just realised Pete and Ben both have the same middle names and were both were partially named after their Uncles 
 
Peter Benjamin Parker -Phil Urich
Phillip Benjamin Urich-Ben Urich
Posted by The Hobgoblin
@Avenging-X-Bolt:
That better not be Roderick's head is all I can say.
Posted by InnerVenom123
@The Hobgoblin said:
" @Avenging-X-Bolt: That better not be Roderick's head is all I can say. "
Uber-realistic LMD~ 
;p
 
@Avenging-X-Bolt said:
" Whoa i just realised Pete and Ben both have the same middle names and were both were partially named after their Uncles  Peter Benjamin Parker -Phil UrichPhillip Benjamin Urich-Ben Urich "

Realized that during the issue. Ah, parallels are awesome.
Posted by OnlyWonderBoy
@The Hobgoblin said:
" @InnerVenom123: Same here, Inner Venom. I usually like Slott's work, but this is just downright BAD. "
From what I've gleaned, I think you're letting your love for a single character cloud your judgment over the entire book. Even Tony disliked what happened but was able to respect the story as a whole. Granted, I just started reading Spiderman with the start of Big Time, so I guess my judgment is limited. I just know a lot of people disliked Brand New Day.
Posted by Emperor Gonzo Noir

I may be behind on something, but this seems out of character for Phil Urich

Posted by The Hobgoblin
@onlywonderboy:
I couldn't get through the book after reading the death of Hobgoblin scene. I lost all will to do so, so i merely skimed and put it away.
Posted by The Hobgoblin
@Emperor Gonzo Noir:
I was told he acted crazy in the Loners series and saw a bunch of past Goblins in the mirror before that that weren't really there.
Posted by hydrabob--defunct
@The Hobgoblin said:
" @Avenging-X-Bolt: That better not be Roderick's head is all I can say. "
yup it totally is
Posted by The Hobgoblin

How do you know for sure?

Edited by GoblinFan2010

Hi, I just signed up here. I read most of the posts in this thread and boy I am shocked. I can't believe Kinglsey is dead. Roderick was my favorite Hobgoblin. Roderick was the REAL and original Hobby, and he's gone??  I refuse to believe he is dead. I hadn't read the issue, but I'm betting a writer(s) will bring him back from the dead in the future. Think about it...Doc Ock, Green Goblin, and Harry Osborne died at one point, but they were brought back years later.  Also, what makes you sure Kinglsey didn't use another brainwashed victim as his double like he did with Samuel and Ned Leeds? 
 
Another thing that bugs me is, if they wanted a new Hobgoblin, why didn't the writer have Phil Urich go into one of Roderick's secret lairs and find goblin costumes and goblin gadgets or something? What was the point of bringing back Kingsley? Why not just leave him alone and let him relaxed on his island. It would had been a happy ending for him to be sitting on an island counting his money and being surrounded by beautiful women, laughing evily.

Posted by The Hobgoblin
@GoblinFan2010:
Who is Samuel?
Posted by GoblinFan2010
@The Hobgoblin: 

My bad, I mean Arnold Samuel Donovan. Arnold was the first guy Hobgoblin(Roderick)  brainwashed and used as a double. When Arnold was about to recover from the brainwashing effect, Hobgoblin killed him to keep him quiet.  
Posted by The Hobgoblin
@GoblinFan2010:
Ahhh, yes, Lefty Donovan, the first dupe/stand-in Kingsley employed. I'd personally forgotten his middle name was Samuel. Thanks for reminding me, pal.
Posted by Dracade102

I cried seeing that Bastard Urich holding Kingsley's head in triuph... He should've stayed as the Sucky Goblin and stayed at that. 
 
The Only nice bonus was Kingsley's final scenes of destruction at the begining and Mac Gargan without the Symbiote in agony.

Posted by Avenging-X-Bolt
@GoblinFan2010:
Bad Guys Dont Get Happy endings, unless they become good guys
Posted by Primmaster64

Does anyone have a scan of the page?

Posted by Avenging-X-Bolt
@Dracade102:
although i cant really feel bad for Kingsley (he was a homicidal,narcissitic psycho after all and deserved to die and burn in hell) im a little on Phil's new direction
Edited by GoblinFan2010
@Primmaster64:
The link to the scan is 
http://scans-daily.dreamwidth.org/2569029.html?thread=85421125     
 
Guys, one thing I find weird....I never read any of the Phil Urich stories, but I heard he was powned by the Jason Maccendale Hobgblin. So, Phil got his butt kicked by a Hobgoblin pretender, Maccendale, but kills Kingsley(the REAL Hobby) who is smarter and stronger than Maccendale? Riiiight. Phil will never have the smarts and craftyness as Roderick. He will just be another forgettable goblin wannabe no one will care about like Bart Hamilton's Green Goblin and Jason Maccendale's Hobgoblin.
Posted by InnerVenom123
@GoblinFan2010: Kingsley got the sonic laugh TO THE FACE point blank. Wouldn't that shock him down so Phil could do the final blow? Just my idea....
Posted by The Hobgoblin
@GoblinFan2010:
I have to agree with you on this one. There's more than meets the eye here, and I doubt Kingsley's been disposed of.
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