@k4tzm4n: I was just pointing out that Batman doesn't need gagdets, what exactly do you mean?
Also the Talon just seemed like a better fighter to me than Shredder. Shredder has indeed gone up against the Turtles and Splinter but they are not as impressive as Dick Grayson or Batman.
Shredder has faced more then just Splinter and the Turtles, but what makes Dick Grayson or Batman any more skilled then Splinter and the combined forces of the Turtles? The Turtles rogues gallery is no longer a bunch of feat-less villains, they all have several issues dedicated to showing how skilled and/or powerful they are.
The Turtles have beaten characters like Alopex and Karai who are speedy and skilled.
They have also beaten characters like Slash who is a powerhouse tank.
Mikey and Leo alone took on Krang and had a pretty great fight with him, who is superhuman in strength, and has about a gajillion weapons built into his armor.
They've survived a confrontation with Bebop and Rocksteady who have the strength in one finger to KO a human without even trying, or send a person flying out of the room with a casual swing of an arm that was meant to be playful. They can also be stabbed with every weapon imaginable about 30 times each without showing any signs of it actually doing anything to them, or use their ridiculous strength to collapse a building for fun....while they are inside of it.
The turtles have also deflected bullets and lasers just as well as any other bullet/laser timer in comics.
With the amount of villains they have taken on and beaten, and the amount of physical showings that prove to be higher then most peak human characters, there is no reason IMO to still think that the IDW characters can't live up to the DC street level characters.
I am not denying the fact that the Turtles have beaten skilled characters or characters that are fast. The thing is that they are a four--men group while Batman handles people more skilled then both Karai and Alopex and has no problem with them.
Good for them for taking such powerful powerhouses. Batman has also done this like several times against villains like Bane and Clayface who are no pushovers and the Turtles would get destroyed by them. When Batman fought Bane he completely humiliated him in the end because he was thrashing him around, left and right and it ended with a K.O. And as you know Bane is a pretty big street-level powerhouse himself, he once killed 3 or 4(I can't remember correctly) Talons at the same time and demolished a team of Batman villains on his own venom, but in the end when he faced Batman he had nothing to do against him.
Bullet dodging and stuff like that ain't that impressive anymore in comic books. I mean almost every single character is able to achieve it and is just not that impressive.The Turtles do live up to some of the DC street-level characters but not Batman. They still have a lot to achieve before they are even a little close to what Batman is.