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#1 Edited by sweatboy (786 posts) - - Show Bio

@sora_thekey: it's Superman, in a HOODIE, it was a cool cover. I think clothes and story was more contemporary from what previews I've seen, he has a phone call with his mother, giving it a Spider Man feel, we see a scrawny kid who could barely fit into football gear take on guys like... 4 times his size? But would Supes have sold his abilities for money?

As an origin story though, John Byrne's Man of Steel is what I prefer, I bought the book a few months ago but haven't read all of it. I read the end where Lois finds Superman and they tell Lois who he is. Earth One was not canon yes? 52 kicked in soon after anyway. Birthright seems to offer more about the super HERO over the SUPER hero. And D&R has some mock/serious questions that answer themselves. Kids ask him questions, like what superheroes do in their spare time (I think that was a hint at how fans could be dumb) and Superman gets some final public words. There's a house burning, and Supes has to make the decision to chase Doomsday or save the family. Very interesting. Given Eradicator and Superboy's entrances, it'll be my favourite

#2 Edited by sweatboy (786 posts) - - Show Bio

My favorite story is not there (Which is the Elseworld story The Last Family of Krypton)... So I chose my second favorite. (Current continuity doesn't bode well with me when it comes to Supes.)

@colonelrunaway said:

You did good, Comicvine.

You did good.

Sorry...

Hahaha! I haven't read Earth One completely, but i thought there were interesting parts to it. Clark in a hood, come on now that is cool. I voted Birthright. (have yet to read it)

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#4 Edited by sweatboy (786 posts) - - Show Bio

JLA 1 should be Deathstroke instead of Deadshot.

Deadshot's pretty cool. I'm glad to see Deadshot

@sweatboy: I disagree. I don't think there should be elseworlds. Instead, I think people should become less attached to characters in continuity. And if they are attached to character, it is fine, but they should realize that those characters still exist beyond continuity. They had their time to live and exist and now it is time for other characters to shine and for those people to get attached to new characters. Just because a characters lived and died doesn't mean they don't exist. It isn't like anyone is forgetting them. We all loved those characters for what they were. I still love the previous Nova (Richard Rider), but I don't want him back because he was great. If someone DOES bring him back, he would be a different person. Characters are always going to be different under different writers. Each one is a different interpretation of the same character -- or as writers like to say, "essence." As far as I'm concerned, the Richard Rider that I loved so much is dead. I can still go back to read his stories over and over again and there is still a clear definition of who he was. People are obsessed with characters continuing their life. But the reality is that people die. If this is a true (as Grant Morrison says) reflection of our world, death exists. Things in the world end, but the memory is what keeps them alive. That feeling that you get when that person first saved the day or first fell in love is still there. Sure, it might feel different the second time and the third time you read it, but it is still there.

I've had people die in my life, but I don't complain to the higher powers to bring my family back. When a new baby is born in my family, I don't get upset when that baby isn't just like the person who died. And I don't get upset when a new person joins my group of friends and they aren't like the person that died. That is essentially what comic fans do. As far as I'm concerned, the New 52 is a new place with new people and new experiences. I wouldn't want to taint it with an old universe. The old universe would ruin the experience of progress. If the world grows and evolves and comics are a reflection, they should grow and evolve with the world. Even if it does stem from a bad idea. You don't think a lot of these characters that still exist today didn't stem from bad ideas? You think Deadman actually had a following before recently? Other writers make those bad ideas better. It takes time.

I don't think you got what i was saying. I said new ideas should NOT be discouraged. New ideas are important, because readers can pick and chose what they want to believe. That's what i do. I reject Wolverine's Origin story, (even though it IS necessary for Daken, who is someone i LOVE) or at least i used to not believe in Origins, because i prefer Wolverine as an amnesiac. Should Superman have found out his Kryptonian origin? in Lois & Clark, he didn't know before he became Superman. And i think we should love some of these characters regardless of their origins. Because what they do and who they are (personalities, intentions) is what we should care about.

I didn't say anything about dying, but you're right. I think if they kill someone, they should keep them dead. (even though D&R of Superman is one of my favourite books. Superman is too influential to suddenly get rid of) I'm a non-Christian and so I don't believe in heaven or hell, and death to us Eastern folk isn't too weird. We understand it. And therefore i totally get what you're saying about bringing back characters. BUT, these are fictional characters, you CAN mess with them in ways we can't do with real people.

When Superboy fought Side Arm, people kept asking if they would see him again, the editor's response (actually i think it was Karl Kesel's response) was that they keep prodding the body, but he never moved. A story should be a story, and should not be influenced by fandom, and it's actually a GOOD thing to kill some characters before they can be altered. Like Creeper. I'd rather have had him gone (like your Nova) than see this demon version. But who knows? there were other ideas that were hard to get used to at first, (like Cyclops dating Emma Frost, the very woman responsible for messing with Jean's/her Phoenix manifestation's psyche, and Wolverine's bone claw origin story, which was actually pretty neat, and the Young Justice cartoon, which was AWESOME) but were not entirely as bad as when you first heard about it once you did get used to it

#5 Posted by sweatboy (786 posts) - - Show Bio

JLA 1 should be Deathstroke instead of Deadshot.

Deadshot's pretty cool. I'm glad to see Deadshot

@sweatboy: I disagree. I don't think there should be elseworlds. Instead, I think people should become less attached to characters in continuity. And if they are attached to character, it is fine, but they should realize that those characters still exist beyond continuity. They had their time to live and exist and now it is time for other characters to shine and for those people to get attached to new characters. Just because a characters lived and died doesn't mean they don't exist. It isn't like anyone is forgetting them. We all loved those characters for what they were. I still love the previous Nova (Richard Rider), but I don't want him back because he was great. If someone DOES bring him back, he would be a different person. Characters are always going to be different under different writers. Each one is a different interpretation of the same character -- or as writers like to say, "essence." As far as I'm concerned, the Richard Rider that I loved so much is dead. I can still go back to read his stories over and over again and there is still a clear definition of who he was. People are obsessed with characters continuing their life. But the reality is that people die. If this is a true (as Grant Morrison says) reflection of our world, death exists. Things in the world end, but the memory is what keeps them alive. That feeling that you get when that person first saved the day or first fell in love is still there. Sure, it might feel different the second time and the third time you read it, but it is still there.

I've had people die in my life, but I don't complain to the higher powers to bring my family back. When a new baby is born in my family, I don't get upset when that baby isn't just like the person who died. And I don't get upset when a new person joins my group of friends and they aren't like the person that died. That is essentially what comic fans do. As far as I'm concerned, the New 52 is a new place with new people and new experiences. I wouldn't want to taint it with an old universe. The old universe would ruin the experience of progress. If the world grows and evolves and comics are a reflection, they should grow and evolve with the world. Even if it does stem from a bad idea. You don't think a lot of these characters that still exist today didn't stem from bad ideas? You think Deadman actually had a following before recently? Other writers make those bad ideas better. It takes time.

I don't think you got what i was saying. I said new ideas should NOT be discouraged. New ideas are important, because readers can pick and chose what they want to believe. That's what i do. I reject Wolverine's Origin story, (even though it IS necessary for Daken, who is someone i LOVE) or at least i used to not believe in Origins, because i prefer Wolverine as an amnesiac. Should Superman have found out his Kryptonian origin? in Lois & Clark, he didn't know before he became Superman. And i think we should love some of these characters regardless of their origins. Because what they do and who they are (personalities, intentions) is what we should care about.

I didn't say anything about dying, but you're right. I think if they kill someone, they should keep them dead. (even though D&R of Superman is one of my favourite books. Superman is too influential to suddenly get rid of) I'm a non-Christian and so I don't believe in heaven or hell, and death to us Eastern folk isn't too weird. We understand it. And therefore i totally get what you're saying about bringing back characters. BUT, these are fictional characters, you CAN mess with them in ways we can't do with real people.

When Superboy fought Side Arm, people kept asking if they would see him again, the editor's response (actually i think it was Karl Kesel's response) was that they keep prodding the body, but he never moved. A story should be a story, and should not be influenced by fandom, and it's actually a GOOD thing to kill some characters before they can be altered. Like Creeper. I'd rather have had him gone (like your Nova) than see this demon version. But who knows? there were other ideas that were hard to get used to at first, (like Cyclops dating Emma Frost, the very woman responsible for messing with Jean's/her Phoenix manifestation's psyche, and Wolverine's bone claw origin story, which was actually pretty neat, and the Young Justice cartoon, which was AWESOME) but were not entirely as bad as when you first heard about it once you did get used to it

#6 Edited by sweatboy (786 posts) - - Show Bio

Hey guys, I edited this, because i meant to say something about how working under a tough editor could be annoying (i mean who likes a J. Jonah Jameson?) and that a flexible editor could be a good thing, that's to you doordoor. Also the new ideas should not be discouraged thing, because having more is better than less.

@avenging_x_bolt:

@doordoor123:

Well, at least i know i'm not alone in this. Idk, on one hand, if it ain't broke, don't fix it, and on the other hand, well... new stuff should not be discouraged, i suppose. I mean, everyone from Superman to.. well Creeper I guess, has gone through many changes. They probably figured Creeper was a character insignificant enough that changing him wouldn't impact the big picture too bad. How many characters can you really mess with? Batman? Catwoman? oh no, those characters can only be changed for the better, and they can only be changed so many times, right?

They should just do more Elseworlds, like Marvel's Ultimate stories, without changing the mainstream story. It gets so confusing. You CAN have 2 Nightcrawlers, and you can replace one with the other, i guess. But... know what i mean?

#7 Posted by sweatboy (786 posts) - - Show Bio

@doordoor123: that is... why would they do that to the Creeper? I actually haven't read much on him but from what I did, he was funny and loveable. Part of me still hopes that the new 52 is only temporary, like a huuuuge crossover event, till Flash runs into Flash or something.

#8 Posted by sweatboy (786 posts) - - Show Bio

Creeper's evil now?? Nice new look Ivy, even though we don't see your legs no more

#9 Posted by sweatboy (786 posts) - - Show Bio

@hawkguy: AoA? Yeah that Nightcrawler as well as the Sabertooth and Wildchild are pretty cool

#10 Edited by sweatboy (786 posts) - - Show Bio

How about that! Josie and the Pussycats! I don't always admire a Dick Grayson-looking Robin (as Robin, not Nightwing. Nightwing's pretty neat) but that smirking Robin (Galloway) is cool.

Blue Beetle loved it

amen.