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#1 Posted by sweatboy (820 posts) - - Show Bio
@cbishop said:

 Supes said he chose a bright costume so people would see that he's not trying to hide anything.  He's out there, you'll immediately recognize him, and hopefully, trust him.  In a universe where costumes mean recognition and fame, I think the supervillains wear the costumes so people know who they are. 
 
1) The few times I have seen it tried in comics, the artist wasn't good enough to make distinctive characters, and often drew them in the same colored suits, trenchcoats, or whatever.  It made it hard to tell which character was which, when the action actually happened.  NO, I don't want to read that. 
 
2) On the other hand, I think as long as there is a good story going, people won't care whether there are costumes or not.  I also think no costumes lends to the sense of threat level, because anyone in the scene could turn out to have superpowers 

 
@G-man said:    There are some case where the costume serves as part of the supervillains' schtick like with Rhino or Mr. Freeze
CBishop, Hey buddy. So my reply isn't really to you but the whole topic, but yeah 5 pages of comments? 
G-Man nailed it all, AND CB makes a good point, like even in Dragonball i got confused, cos sometimes they wear the same thing but you're supposed to tell them apart BY HAIRCUTS (which change when they go SSJ) That's actually one of the GOOD examples, and this weekend i bought this book (which included) Mr Parker goes to Washington, (part ONE of three) where for the first time i saw...A BUFF PETER PARKER. I'm ok with the idea, but this was a SUPER BUFF picture, but around his wife and employer Stark.  But in PART THREE, Parker looks like a hobo, which i think IS the best peter parker image, but these 2 pictures were like TWO DIFFERENT PEOPLE. Artists CHANGE and whatever the one before tried to do, the next one MAY or MAY NOT follow, that if not for the S-symbol or bat we could not tell the character.
 
 I think costumes go for heroes as well as villains. Spidey has a reason to cover his face, to protect his identity and thereby protect his loved ones. Now, although it may not be so noble, villains may have a similar reason to cover their face. At least it let's them stay active for slightly longer and i know Hobby, thanks to your (G-Man's) 3 minute enlightenment did just that. Also like you said, some villains (and heroes) are nothing without the suit, like The Mask. Venom HAS to be in costume, or he's either Brock/Gargan or a symbiote. And as Batman used the symbol of a bat to SCARE people, villains could do that. SOMETIMES the villain's face is scarred, (Dr. Doom, Deadpool although we HAVE seen him without a mask in Wolverine Origins) BUT some like Joker (who had a deadpool incident,) milk it. The car, the planes, the hideouts,...almost every batman villain, i mean NO WONDER they called batman gay. (Dont forget Luthor though) Originally these stories were meant to be THEATRICAL, or to catch the reader's eye with a) images or b) catchy names. And in creating characters, isn't designing them the fun part? giving them something that SAYS i'm me?
 
And finally costumes are viewed as immature by "society" but when in X-Men (the first movie) Cykes asked Logan if he was expecting yellow spandex, GUESS WHAT? I WAS
#2 Posted by sweatboy (820 posts) - - Show Bio

T'Chaala looks,..... :( too much hair? but it makes sense for him to be older

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#4 Posted by sweatboy (820 posts) - - Show Bio
@digifiend said:
" No Spidey Sense clues yet? I'm stuck on Animal Control, only got 6 out of 9 animal based villains.  Here's some clues: Animal Control: 1. One armed doctor 2. Six armed doctor 3. This horny guy has thick skin 4. An aged bird. 5. Got his powers thanks to J Jonah Jameson. 6. Shape shifter  "
I assume you meant 8 armed doctor? and thanks for those clues i only got 4 still. Did you check the Dark Reign symbiote guy yet? maybe that's your 5. i can't believe i forgot your first clue! duh!
#5 Posted by sweatboy (820 posts) - - Show Bio
@ArtisticNeedham said:
" On the Spider-Man cartoon show they handled this subject. Peter is mutating further into a giant spider, he asks for their help because they are mutants and he is mutating and he mutated into the Spider-Man he is. Xavier tells him that while that is true, their mutations are genetic and have been with them since birth, Spider-Man's genes were genetically altered later in life.  So, he tells Peter, that he isn't actually their definition of a Mutant.   (actually I think in the cartoon Xavier tells Peter he doesn't cure mutants.)  But still, I think that he is a different form of mutation.Didn't this happen in the comics too?  During the Stan Lee/Kirby/Ditko era?  Didn't Peter run into the X-Men and Xavier and they talked about this? "
MUTANT AGENDA! yeah Beast tries to help him, it was an X-Men Spidey crossover (but it was the spidey cartoon) THING IS editors and writers screw things up too much, they PLAY GOD with the characters they created BUT Marvel cant DICTATE what a mutant is. And MUTATES were genetically engineered by Sinister, Spidey's mutation was MEANT to happen just like Flash's lightning bolt
#6 Posted by sweatboy (820 posts) - - Show Bio

I am SO GLAD someone came up with this topic. i agree with what the user says about some ESTABLISHED characters. I think the problem is a) equal representation? wanting to sell better? and b) that MARVEL ESPECIALLY makes things TOO SPECIFIC. like BLACK LIGHTNING, T'Chaala, or Captain America as you said, Magneto is Jewish, T'chaala is asian, i mean hispanic, no that doesn't work see? Even John Stewart, i remember this scene where he catches a basket ball bouncing out of a field/ring, and an asian guy, or a white guy,.....John fits there more. And CHARACTER PROFILES? Spiderman's hair = brown. Height = 5'11". Wolverine is Canadian. Height = 5'9". Superman's eye colour = blue. wtf? on what basis?
 I'm not american, but for a long time, (even now i guess) i think of the ideal hero being WHITE.  
 Or well, american (my first imaginary character could have fit the "hispanic" or "asian" model as much as white, cos he had dark hair and a fair complexion) but yeah that kinda limits him. Thing about comics is words AND PICTURES. They gotta draw it some way. But Superman,... is Superman white? he's  AN ALIEN for crying out loud. the whole IDEA is he's a VISITOR and IMMIGRANT if you will. And you might want to look up Justice ALLIANCE Superman from "Earth-D", BLACK! But he's a farm boy in Kansas, (adopted) so what should it be? Then we have the legionnaires, they're LEGIT outsiders, ALIENS. And i had a problem when, in the original superman movies, "world domination" to Zod, meant going over to the white house and,...WHERE WAS THE REST OF THE WORLD??? Smallville had one of Zod's sidekicks as a black man, a black Kryptonian. Any problem? i dont see one. Micheal Clarke Duncan as Kingpin, i actually enjoyed that, maybe because i didn't KNOW Daredevil before the movie (and was a fan of the turtles,...dont know how that happens) 
 
SO I THINK,.......It doesn't MATTER, (unless, like the author pointed out, Captain america, or T'Chaala, or Black Lightning are too specified) and aliens or atlantians or spiderman or mutants could be ANYTHING. Blue haired Hank McCoy, what colour is his skin? Nightcrawler was a German and Mystique can BE anything. RACE here is not even APPLICABLE, yet we tend to give them a race, whereas they dont even BELONG to one. Jean's a redhead (OR IS SHE?) Scott sounds...scottish? but they are also part of a minority! and it's a MARKETING STRATEGY to colour them some way

#7 Posted by sweatboy (820 posts) - - Show Bio

personally, like knowing the story before i get into it, i hate suspense. I mean of course i feel like a detective and sometimes when i'm reading through i'll be like,..maybe it's that guy cos he had this connection,...but if it's spoiled for me i really dont care. (unless someone i KNOW beats me to it) I actually read the storyline on wikipedia too. 

#8 Edited by sweatboy (820 posts) - - Show Bio
@cadaver said:

. Dick Grayson  as Robin and Wally as Kidflash doesn't seem right either.    They both worked hard to move on in their careers. I'm sure it'll still be a great cartoon, though. "

^ that answers that. Great. Just great. A Young Just Us without Bart? And they're using Dick Grayson from teen titans in Young Justice,.....what tha-? that's BULLSHIT! why would you have the same people from TEEN TITANS when there's a SEPARATE team called YOUNG JUSTICE ??? And FYI Young Justice was teen titans done RIGHT. Raven, Starphire, Dick, beast boy, they HAVE their show, they HAVE their team, so please, LET US have OUR TEAM. But in a way, i'm glad, i can still have MY Young Justice to myself when the young justice the public follows is a FAKE one (you hear me? FAKE)
#9 Posted by sweatboy (820 posts) - - Show Bio

that's a very good question. So technically a mutant is BORN as a mutant right? But yeah the writers screwed it up, cos there's no such "x gene" that will give people DIFFERENT superpowers that science cant.....ok no science. When wolverine first came out, (not FIRST but when he was still amnesiac and wondering who he was, thinking about that lab and stuff) i used to think he was a MADE mutant. Of course he survived the experiment thanks to his healing factor, and he had a natural sense of smell, so again this mutant was BORN with it. Or is a lupine considered not a mutant? But what about spidey? i mean,... his powers come from a spider right? and RADIOACTIVE is the key word, has the power to mess with someone/something's genes. Like the turtles,... they're mutants, but weren't born that way, Shredder's MUTAGEN, which was also RADIOACTIVE, CREATED (or as we're using it here, PRODUCED) the mutants. And of course, spidey is TOO COOL to be just human. As we learned in Hulk his genes were PERMANENTLY chenged due to the Gamma ray exposure (BUT he had that serum in him all along) And then,... think about Cap America's Super Steroid.....i mean serum. I would call cap America an enhanced human. Same with DD. They used to be normal, and then they became,...something else. HOWEVER, in both Rogers' and murdock's case, all they got was a little more of what they already had ( or didn't have at all, but still ACHIEVABLE) but Spidey, a) his powers are related to an ANIMAL, and there was no magic here. b) what he can do is different, mind blowing, Cap lifts a car, spidey grabs a falling building, cap dodges a bullet, spidey performs an entire CIRCUS ACT. Now,...his threads are ARTIFICIAL. BUT c) spider sense, now THIS is something that separates him from the ordinary species. So,... i would say, i WANT spidey to be a mutant. Cos his DNA was changed PERMANENTLY, there was RADIOACTIVITY here, and he can do amazing things, AND he considers it a gift AND a CURSE, like the X-Men feel (Beast, and Cyclops and Jean talking about having kids, the Friends of Humanity trying to kill mutants) Spidey has trouble too, and all he wants to do is have a NORMAL life, which is why when he got the chance when there were TWO of himselves alive.... (happens all the time man) he TOOK it. he RETIRED. that's totally a mutant thing to do 

#10 Posted by sweatboy (820 posts) - - Show Bio

" The scene sets Jordon up as an immature ladies man, a characterization reminiscent of Chris Evan's Johnny Storm in the Fantastic Four movies with a bit of Tony Stark thrown into the mix."   
 
Oh so i wasn't the only one. I never saw Hal as a fun character (THOUGH KYLE would fit more into Reynold's portrayal. It's true it's more of a Reynolds than a Hal. First Flight had this same portrayal. And now that you mention it, YEAH Jhonny Storm,.... kinda makes sense. (cannot be unseen) The ikr? scene was totally Ironman. Maybe DC feels insecure about it's potential and wants to try live up to Marvel's standards (which ARE better,...but not in the movies, i'd hate to see DC do the same thing to PLEASE THE GOD DAMN PUBLIC. And the planes, weren't they supposed to be OLD? but yeah modern times,... hence the eject. I would watch Blake Lively, in fact she and Kilowog would be why i'd watch this movie if i ever do.