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Teen Titans, please Go! (Beast Boy, Greg and the whole character/actor thing)

"I'm not agree. Is not about evolution is about recognition. I don't need a replacement I don't wanna a replacement"

I hate the bitter, frustrated version of myself. I work in circles where I try not to get too happy, and then when I do, it's followed immediately with some depression or angry phase. This is what happened at the abrupt end of Young Justice as well. Harvey Dent said in the second Nolan Batman, (no i'm still not a bat-fan), that "you either die a hero, or live long enough to see yourself become the villain". I find myself becoming the very thing I hate. I used to get into internet arguments with people who were dicks. And now, I'm turning into one.

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Teen Titans was fun. Robin was fighting Deathstroke, Trigon's influence was real. Starfire's sister shows up, and Beast Boy's heart is broken by (a hot) Terra. Beast Boy is vegetarian. It was a COOL SHOW! Then it died down. YJ happened and it was awesom-er.

Teen Titans died, the VAs called for the fans to speak up, and it was brought back. It was goofy, and it took YJ's spot.

I don't think I want to stand by for that to happen again. Greg Cipes is awesome, but he can't hog the character forever.

I like funny, but primarily, I like action. I want to see superheroes kick butt, or use their wits to solve cases, even tackle politics. I like some sciencey stuff, I like fantastical fiction. And although funny can mix into fiction, I don't like my action to get too goofy. I don't think anyone does. Imagine Terminator or Rambo. A couple quick jokes would be cool, but you really want the explosions, guns and muscles, and the plot about Vietnam war veterans or how in the future, we're going to be ruled by robots. What's wrong with that, why can't we have that?

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Sure, Beast Boy is always funny, he's comic relief, but do you know WHY he's always cracking jokes and acting happy? Because he's actually very complex, that's why! Why can't we see Beast Boy for that type of guy? And you know who BBoy's adult counterpart is? His JLA role model, would be Buddy baker, who has similar powers and under Grant Morrison's pen became an Animal rights advocate. Beast boy (AND Cipes I believe) are vegetarian. So should we allow a character of so much potential to be wasted as forever humorous, and never to be taken serious? Well, so far my problem has been about immaturity and lack of action rather than the actor who plays it. I'd be more than happy to have Cipes's voice behind the impish little monkey, as long as the character stands up to a better amount of seriousness. But can we expect Cipes to be serious? I mean, maybe we could! His work as Iron Fist lately has been nothing but mostly serious. Spiritual, yes. Honorable and self sacrificing. But not goofy, at all. Yet, is it Iron Fist/Danny Rand, or Greg Cipes acting as Iron Fist that we're looking at? Both of them are young, tall, slim-yet-muscular, blonde, white males with this Californian surfer dude aura (have i mentioned that i'm SO GAY for Greg Cipes, over looks, voice and everything?) Iron Fist is supposed to be IMMORTAL, because the idea of the IF, or the dragon's heart, is like Zorro. It's whoever dons the mask that becomes the icon, and it lives on through generations (and I was under the impression that that was the same point in animation) Then again,...

Don't get me wrong. I love Voice actors, or entertainers of ANY kind. If i had a shot (and talent) for entertaining, especially in animation, i'd jump for it. I love rooting for the under dog too, and VAs are sort of underdogs for their voices are heard, but not always their faces, and they don't get Oscars. I grew to recognize some voices, like the different voices of Sam Vincent, in Martin Mystery or Luri Lowenthal's or Tara Strong's wide spectrum of cute, hoarse, male, female, adult and mature voices. Jesus Tara Strong has THE most amazing talent. But in her case, she voices so many characters, including Timmy Turner. That show's great for many reasons, including references to Terminator (Jorgen) and Superman/Batman (Crimson Chin). Also, Tim's an original character so Tara could be directly associated with that character, and she could even claim ownership of that character for sure since she's both the first and only person to voice him, BECAUSE HE DOESN'T EXIST OUT OF ANIMATION. Or at least was born in animation. I'm sure she has a lot of those originals, including Bubbles and Ben 10, two of the newer generation's best cartoons. A character like Robin though,... not so much. The four Turtles have been voiced by many people over many generations and each turtle has many delegates on their BTVA page.

So what about Beast Boy?

I think Greg Cipes is awesome, he's made me laugh a lot, and he's a genius with what he does but does he have a right over a character that's older than he is? Yes, he was the first person to voice BBoy and before Teen Titans (the cartoon), I doubt anyone young knew much about him. I had heard of Doom Patrol and seen Beast Boy in comics, but I'm not sure if that was before watching Teen Titans on Cartoon Network. Plus, Cartoon Network is better than Nick or Disney. They have some of the best action, and they also had Billy & Mandy, and Foster's Home for Imaginary pets, and oh god that horrible Cow&Chicken show, and Courage, which was... i don't even know what genre that was. And he's been doing it for 10 years. Still.... what about Beast Boy? If he really cares about enlightenment, Cipes wouldn't hold on to BB. But they ARE so much alike irl.

However, this isn't just about Greg, this is about bigger things. This is what one of his fans replied with when I said that TT Go! had cost us YJ fans a great show:

"Voice actors are not responsible for that. Actually I love Teen Titans and I like Teen Titans go."

These are the people that ruined YJ (the fans who voted TT back) And these are the people who are liable to mess things up again.

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