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#1 Posted by Supreme_Maj (255 posts) - - Show Bio

hey! guys with all your debate you forgot one thing Galactus can feed on anti matter energy and who by the way is made of anti matter energy? yeah! yeah!just say it the anti Monitor so the food is ready for the devoreur of worlds the Monitor is curstomp by galan sorry every thing he will throw at him will be useless

#2 Posted by Supreme_Maj (255 posts) - - Show Bio

DogSoldier88 said:

@agent41 @demonknights @kingant27

@christianrapper @outside_85

@awesomedude Guys, I've read all 370

posts, including re-reading my own, and I

allocated all the arguments into the

following categories:

1. WW is better than Blue Marvel,

and since Cheetah is her villain,

Cheetah wins

2. Blue Marvel is better than WW,

and has fought people just as

fast/durable as WW, so Blue

Marvel wins.

3. Cheetah can scratch/slice WW,

Superman, and Flash, so Cheetah

will kill Blue Marvel.

4. Blue Marvel one-shot Sentry into

orbit, fought off all the Mighty

Avengers, and beat King Hyperion,

so Blue Marvel will kill Cheetah.

5. I can't tell the difference between

New-52 Cheetah and WW, and

Pre-52 Cheetah and WW, and am

mixing up their feats/stats.

6. I want to see DC style speed feats

for Blue Marvel.

7. I want to count the lowest feats

for Cheetah, and ignore everything

else you've posted.

To these observations, I say the

following:

1. This is a supposition and can not

be argued.

2. This is a supposition and can not

be argued.

3. This requires an explanation for

Cheetah's damage output levels

(strength feats or strike feats

against durable characters, or

characters who have an innate

magic weakness like Superman)

versus Blue Marvel's durability

showings.

4. This requires an explanation as to

how Blue Marvel will lay a hand

on Cheetah, versus Cheetah's

speed feats.

5. Re-read the OP. This has to be

Blue Marvel versus New-52

Cheetah (the current version),

unless specified by the OP. All

those Pre-52 Cheetah and Wonder

Woman and Flash scans are moot,

and wastes of time.

6. [Bad News Barrett Voice] "I'm

afraid I've got some BAD

NEWS!" [/Bad News Barrett Voice]

Marvel writers/editors plot their

stories so speedsters only show

their speed in story context (so

you see more travel speed feats

than combat speed feats), or if its

the character's signature ability

(like Quicksilver, or Speed Demon).

Sentry can catch a bullet fired out

of a gun, and not even move one

millimeter on panel, but he fights

opponents at their speed. Same

for Thor, Gladiator, Hyperion, et.

al. They are not written (or

designed as) as Mary Sue, Jack-

of-all-trades. If I have super

strength, I must have super speed,

super breath, super this, super

that, etc.

7. [Bad News Barrett Voice] "I'm

afraid I've got some BAD

NEWS!" [/Bad News Barrett Voice]

Those scans are Pre-52 anyhow,

so they don't count. Unless we're

arguing Pre-52 Cheetah ONLY, in

which case, she has WAY higher

feats, so this feat is plot induced.

Cheetah jobbing to a slower

character, contradicting her base

level powers.

Did I miss anything?

Anyhow, I'm arguing for Blue Marvel

because he has a more varied skill set. I

have not read anything from the Cheetah

side which tells me more than she can

close the distance in a mid-short range

encounter and possibly draw first blood

(assuming that her claws can scratch

Blue Marvel). Blue Marvel has taken

damage, but nothing has put him down

for good - not nuclear missile, not Anti-

Man (his nemesis), not Sentry speed

blitzing him from orbit, and not King

Hyperion speed blitzing him from close

range. However, he can travel away from

her, skyward, and blast anti-matter

omnidirectionally. Omni, last I checked,

means ALL. He can also use his powers

in interesting ways, like adding particles

to her molecules, instantly killing her .

This is not an attack that Cheetah is

designed to withstand.

All she has is run, run, run, (at him no

less), and try and damage him enough to

incapacitate or kill him before he reacts.

DC side, prove that she can. Strength or

strike feats?

Against Flash - New 52 Barry Allen has

no inherent super durability that I'm

aware of. Standing still, he'd be stabbed,

shot like anyone else.

Against Wonder Woman - New 52

Wonder Woman has the inherent

weakness to sharp objects, of which

Cheetah's claws apparently count. So

scratching WW is a feat that you or I

could do to her with a kitchen knife.

Against Superman - New 52 Superman

has the magic weakness, so he is

affected by magic characters, like

Cheetah, the same as everybody else.

That's why she can infect him with the

Cheetah curse. But notice, Superman's

Kryptonian heritage allowed him to

survive the curse, which kills normal

people quickly after infection - according

to the tribeswoman in JL #14.

BTW, Batman perceived Cheetah coming

in JL#13 before she arrived. If he can,

Blue Marvel should be able to perceive

her coming as well and throw up the

shields, like he did with King Hyperion.

When JL No 14 was over, they locked her

up in a jail cell. @agent41 pointed out

that Cheetah let them capture her. This is

undeniable. But, they locked her up in

Belle Reeve, in a cell that she presumably

can't break out of. The cell is not stated

to be made out of any otherwordly

materials, so we have to assume it is

made of the steel, glass, and concrete

that it appears to be in the picture. This,

my friends, is not enough inherent

strength to damage Blue Marvel.

I rest my case, and await to learn

something in your responses.

Cheetah captured at the end of

Justice League No 14 . She was

subdued underwater by Aquaman

and his piranhas.

Since I started reading those posts this is the best arguments I can take seriously no fanboyism here I agree with everything you wrote mate Blue Marvel fot the win

#3 Posted by Supreme_Maj (255 posts) - - Show Bio

sophia89 said:

@supreme_maj said:

I don't know if Remender knows

how Rogue powers work now

since she lost miss marvel

powers because what I

remember she can actually take

only half of the power of the

person not the all like she did to

Ares during the dark reign saga

unless I am mistaken. And

besides Hyperion was supposed

to be there and what i

remember of him he held two

earth (universes) apart which

means a feat greater than

holding Existar foot so with his

strength she could have done it

too unless the fact she hold all

those powers make her not able

to use them efficiently because

it has become a big load on her

in the very beginning of the series he

shows that rogue has been training

herself(also in avx she was absorbing

and controlling powers,she can control

how much she takes)(in that part she

was taking every bit of their

powers,completely draining them).

as for the hyperion feat it was kinda de-

bunked,or shown it wasn't what was

shown(since he was hurt by people

below planet busters without much

difficulty)

who hurt Hyperion and is below planets

buster? and in the arc Red Planet in Avengers Hyperion stopped and stabilized the planet which was coming at a very fast velocity to collide with earth he stopped it for his team members to synchronize it with the earth to make it like a shield for earth there too he showed a good feat of strength

#4 Posted by Supreme_Maj (255 posts) - - Show Bio

who hurt Hyperion and is below planets buster?

#5 Posted by Supreme_Maj (255 posts) - - Show Bio

I don't know if Remender knows how Rogue powers work now since she lost miss marvel powers because what I remember she can actually take only half of the power of the person not the all like she did to Ares during the dark reign saga unless I am mistaken. And besides Hyperion was supposed to be there and what i remember of him he held two earth (universes) apart which means a feat greater than holding Existar foot so with his strength she could have done it too unless the fact she hold all those powers make her not able to use them efficiently because it has become a big load on her

#6 Posted by Supreme_Maj (255 posts) - - Show Bio

hey guys don't forget superman prime did own mr mxy in countdown to final crisis he was even chained and scared of prime he ran like a puppy from prime who by the way is not a reality warper

#7 Posted by Supreme_Maj (255 posts) - - Show Bio

hey guys don't forget superman prime did own mr mxy in countdown to final crisis he was even chained and scared of prime he ran like a puppy from prime who by the way is not a reality warper

#8 Edited by Supreme_Maj (255 posts) - - Show Bio

Moony is going to this building to beat the crap out of those mobsters like the swat in the Raid: Redemption

#9 Posted by Supreme_Maj (255 posts) - - Show Bio

Team1 sorry ultimate cap is a beast he's more dangerous than 616 cap far more and it's true batman is batman but Wolverine is the best at what he does so sorry but team 2 will be deslt with

#10 Posted by Supreme_Maj (255 posts) - - Show Bio

Strange I see Jason more like a Namor the submariner than Arthur Aquaman but that's just me