Wonder Woman's Sword vs Adamantium

Can Wonder Woman's Sword cut Adamantium? In Kingdom Come she states the sword made by Hephaestus could "carve electrons off an atom". In a forum on ComicVine someone stated Magneto liquified the Adamantium in Wolverine by controlling it at a Molecular/Atomic lvl. So can WW's Sword cut through the molecules/atoms of the Adamantium, in tern cutting through Adamantium itself?

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Posted by Axis_Mundi

Yes, it could. Adamantium is breakable and when going up against a mystically reinforced substance (such as Wonder Woman's God-forged sword) wielded by a being with the strength of Gaea Herself it WILL CERTAINLY break. I'd be pissed off if it didn't.

Posted by God_Spawn

One of the ways adamantium is said to be warped or broken is via molecular manipulation. I don't mean manipulation as in controlling of molecules, but more being able to affect something on that level. If the sword can cut molecules then it is possible it could cut through ady.

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Posted by superstay

So a person who can Control Molecules probably can't control the molecules of Adamantium.

Posted by God_Spawn

@superstay said:

So a person who can Control Molecules probably can't control the molecules of Adamantium.

I didn't say that cause that wouldn't be true. I used the wording molecular manipulation in a way that isn't directly related to the super power of directly controlling molecules of things.

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Posted by superstay

Oh, other then directly controlling molecules, what other form of molecular manipulation is there.

Posted by Return_of_the_troller

ADAMANTIUM WINS

Posted by wonderW

Adamantium is it not weak to magic?

cuz her sword can cut gods

Posted by superstay

So do you think it could cut Adamantium?

Posted by wonderW

Yes i do

its being magic based and with her super strength added on it yea.

but even with out her strength it should still cut

Posted by Ancient_0f_Days

@superstay said:

So do you think it could cut Adamantium?

It separates the electrons from atoms ..... that's as molecular as you can get.......... i think the Sword of Hephaestus wins .......

Posted by superstay

Yeah, cool so Adamantium can be broken. Because I hear alot of people say nothing can break Adamantium(probably just Wolverine fanboys).

Posted by deadpool6_6_6

Adamantium is indestructable. So No I dont believe wonder woman could do much with a sword.

Posted by superstay

Even on a atomic lvl?

Posted by God_Spawn

@superstay said:

Yeah, cool so Adamantium can be broken. Because I hear alot of people say nothing can break Adamantium(probably just Wolverine fanboys).

It's virtually indestructible. It's just extremely hard to do so. As I told you before, one of the easier ways to do it would be something that effects it on a molecular level which is what I meant by molecular manipulation, something that can mess with its structure like the sword possibly could by cutting through the molecules.

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Posted by superstay

Oh, thanks for explaining that to me.

Posted by God_Spawn

@superstay: No problem, buddy. Glad I could answer it well enough for you.

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Posted by TheSwordsman

True Adamantium wins. The Covalent bonds between the protons, neutrons, and electrons of Adamantium Atoms cannot be broken by force (cutting is simply force on molecular level). The Evidence?: It hasn't been done thus far unless you subscribe to the storyline that Caps shield is an Adamantium/Vibranium alloy and it was only broken by a sky-father level being whose powers rivaled, if not surpassed, Odins and that was not pure Adamantium (again there are 2 canon versions of what the shield is made of and in one version it contains no Adamantium). Thor's hammer is magical and he is inordinately strong but his Hammer doesn't shatter true Adamantium or deform it. Also I used to think wolverine was one of the best character in marvel. now with his over-saturation and lot's of bad writing he is just ok to me.

Edited by God_Spawn

Screw it. I'll call CV's #1 Wolverine and Wonder Woman lover. I'm surprised I haven't seen him in here.

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Posted by jeanroygrant

What is Wonder Woman's sword made of?

Posted by Jezer

@superstay said:

Oh, thanks for explaining that to me.

Why do you bold all your posts?@jeanroygrant said:

What is Wonder Woman's sword made of?

Why did you bold your post?

Posted by superstay

I do most of my commenting on my PS3, and for some weird reason it post in bold letters.

Posted by jeanroygrant

@Jezer said:

@superstay said:

Oh, thanks for explaining that to me.

Why do you bold all your posts?@jeanroygrant said:

What is Wonder Woman's sword made of?

Why did you bold your post?

I just do it.

Posted by superstay

It's made out of some magical god metal (don't know the exact name). Crafted by Hephaestus, it is able to carve the electron off a atom.

Posted by jeanroygrant

@superstay said:

It's made out of some magical god metal (don't know the exact name). Crafted by Hephaestus, it is able to carve the electron off a atom.

Cool.

Posted by superstay

So it can't physically be penetrated, like Juggernauts skin. But someone who can manipulate matter on a atomic lvl could probably break it.

Posted by Jezer

@jeanroygrant said:

@Jezer said:

@superstay said:

Oh, thanks for explaining that to me.

Why do you bold all your posts?@jeanroygrant said:

What is Wonder Woman's sword made of?

Why did you bold your post?

I just do it.

That's a extra couple seconds bolding your posts, for every post. Considering you have 11,000 posts, that's about 3 hours wasted. People don't just waste time for nothing.

There must be a particular reason you bold your post. Bold implies emphasis or attention, are you trying to stand out more or get more attention or put special emphasis on everything you say? Pick one.

Posted by jeanroygrant

@Jezer said:

@jeanroygrant said:

@Jezer said:

@superstay said:

Oh, thanks for explaining that to me.

Why do you bold all your posts?@jeanroygrant said:

What is Wonder Woman's sword made of?

Why did you bold your post?

I just do it.

That's a extra couple seconds bolding your posts, for every post. Considering you have 11,000 posts, that's about 3 hours wasted. People don't just waste time for nothing.

There must be a particular reason you bold your post. Bold implies emphasis or attention, are you trying to stand out more or get more attention or put special emphasis on everything you say? Pick one.

I just do it, just like how @Troller likes to troll, @Billy Batson likes to do BB, and @Mr.Majestic does m99

Posted by superstay

What is BB and M99

Posted by Jezer

@jeanroygrant said:

@Jezer said:

@jeanroygrant said:

@Jezer said:

@superstay said:

Oh, thanks for explaining that to me.

Why do you bold all your posts?@jeanroygrant said:

What is Wonder Woman's sword made of?

Why did you bold your post?

I just do it.

That's a extra couple seconds bolding your posts, for every post. Considering you have 11,000 posts, that's about 3 hours wasted. People don't just waste time for nothing.

There must be a particular reason you bold your post. Bold implies emphasis or attention, are you trying to stand out more or get more attention or put special emphasis on everything you say? Pick one.

I just do it, just like how @Troller likes to troll, @Billy Batson likes to do BB, and @Mr.Majestic does m99

........ -_-

Posted by TAneT62

WW sword would cut it, She was able to pierce Supermans skin with it ....

Posted by Floopay

That's a tough question. I want to say yes, but I have seen a lot of ridiculous things done to Adamantium without breaking it. Gambit charged Adamantium once and it blew up, but the Adamantium item stayed intact and whole, yet the explosion still happened anyway. I don't have the scan but someone posted it awhile back on another forum, where I was arguing that Gambit might be able to blow up something made of Adamantium.

The stuff is indestructible as far as I know, I don't even think it's been cracked or touched in the comics. The stuff is full of PIS, that I believe is stronger than Wonder Woman's sword. In fact, I'm not 100% on this, but I'm pretty sure it is made of 75% bolognium.

Thanks for reading,

Floopay

Edited by jeanroygrant

@superstay said:

What is BB and M99

Billy Batson & Majestic99

@TAneT62 said:

WW sword would cut it, She was able to pierce Supermans skin with it ....

Adamantium is more durable than Superman's skin.

Posted by jeanroygrant

@Jezer said:

@jeanroygrant said:

@Jezer said:

@jeanroygrant said:

@Jezer said:

@superstay said:

Oh, thanks for explaining that to me.

Why do you bold all your posts?@jeanroygrant said:

What is Wonder Woman's sword made of?

Why did you bold your post?

I just do it.

That's a extra couple seconds bolding your posts, for every post. Considering you have 11,000 posts, that's about 3 hours wasted. People don't just waste time for nothing.

There must be a particular reason you bold your post. Bold implies emphasis or attention, are you trying to stand out more or get more attention or put special emphasis on everything you say? Pick one.

I just do it, just like how @Troller likes to troll, @Billy Batson likes to do BB, and @Mr.Majestic does m99

........ -_-

....

Posted by Nefarious

Isn't Wonder Woman's magical? 
 
I'm going with her sword.

Posted by moywar700

magic is just magic. It doesn't care how durable you are and it cuts everything except other magical weapons.If a magic users puts up a magic shield against an attack that can destroy the universe over 100million times,magic will come out on top.

Posted by vuviper

If it can truly carve the electrons off of an atom then it shouldn't matter how durable the substance is.

Posted by vuviper

@TheSwordsman said:

True Adamantium wins. The Covalent bonds between the protons, neutrons, and electrons of Adamantium Atoms cannot be broken by force (cutting is simply force on molecular level). The Evidence?: It hasn't been done thus far unless you subscribe to the storyline that Caps shield is an Adamantium/Vibranium alloy and it was only broken by a sky-father level being whose powers rivaled, if not surpassed, Odins and that was not pure Adamantium (again there are 2 canon versions of what the shield is made of and in one version it contains no Adamantium). Thor's hammer is magical and he is inordinately strong but his Hammer doesn't shatter true Adamantium or deform it. Also I used to think wolverine was one of the best character in marvel. now with his over-saturation and lot's of bad writing he is just ok to me.

Covalent bonds don't hold together protons, neutrons or electrons. And the bonds between them are not being broken by physical force but a magical one

Posted by God_Spawn

@vuviper said:

If it can truly carve the electrons off of an atom then it shouldn't matter how durable the substance is.

Exactly the point I was making. And I'm pretty sure it's already been stated it can be messed with if done on a molecular level.

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Posted by TheSwordsman

@vuviper said:

@TheSwordsman said:

True Adamantium wins. The Covalent bonds between the protons, neutrons, and electrons of Adamantium Atoms cannot be broken by force (cutting is simply force on molecular level). The Evidence?: It hasn't been done thus far unless you subscribe to the storyline that Caps shield is an Adamantium/Vibranium alloy and it was only broken by a sky-father level being whose powers rivaled, if not surpassed, Odins and that was not pure Adamantium (again there are 2 canon versions of what the shield is made of and in one version it contains no Adamantium). Thor's hammer is magical and he is inordinately strong but his Hammer doesn't shatter true Adamantium or deform it. Also I used to think wolverine was one of the best character in marvel. now with his over-saturation and lot's of bad writing he is just ok to me.

Covalent bonds don't hold together protons, neutrons or electrons. And the bonds between them are not being broken by physical force but a magical one

Technically, yes, what holds protons, neutrons and electrons together is an electrostatic or electromagnetic bond and not covalent bonds, and a metallic bond is what holds metal atoms and molecules together. I used a scientific term out of context.

Just because something is magically sharp does not necessarily mean that it doesn't use physical force to cut. It may simply cut at the sub-molecular or sub-atomic level. We still don't actually know if her statement about slicing an electron off of an atom was hyperbole or not though so it being able to cut at a sub-atomic level remains to be seen.

Posted by vuviper

@TheSwordsman said:

@vuviper said:

@TheSwordsman said:

True Adamantium wins. The Covalent bonds between the protons, neutrons, and electrons of Adamantium Atoms cannot be broken by force (cutting is simply force on molecular level). The Evidence?: It hasn't been done thus far unless you subscribe to the storyline that Caps shield is an Adamantium/Vibranium alloy and it was only broken by a sky-father level being whose powers rivaled, if not surpassed, Odins and that was not pure Adamantium (again there are 2 canon versions of what the shield is made of and in one version it contains no Adamantium). Thor's hammer is magical and he is inordinately strong but his Hammer doesn't shatter true Adamantium or deform it. Also I used to think wolverine was one of the best character in marvel. now with his over-saturation and lot's of bad writing he is just ok to me.

Covalent bonds don't hold together protons, neutrons or electrons. And the bonds between them are not being broken by physical force but a magical one

Technically, yes, what holds protons, neutrons and electrons together is an electrostatic or electromagnetic bond and not covalent bonds, and a metallic bond is what holds metal atoms and molecules together. I used a scientific term out of context.

Just because something is 1)magically sharp does not necessarily mean that it doesn't use physical force to cut. It may simply cut at the sub-molecular or sub-atomic level. 2)We still don't actually know if her statement about slicing an electron off of an atom was hyperbole or not though so it being able to cut at a sub-atomic level remains to be seen.

  1. Doesn't mean that it does either. Out of the infinite possibilities for the mechanisms for how a magical blade can somehow cleave the bond between subatomic particles I don't know why you'd assume it's a mundane thing like physical force. Anyway if you we assume what she says about the sword is true, then it obviously can regardless of the mechanism.
  2. I don't know about that either. That's why I said "If"
Posted by TheSwordsman

@vuviper said:

@TheSwordsman said:

@vuviper said:

@TheSwordsman said:

True Adamantium wins. The Covalent bonds between the protons, neutrons, and electrons of Adamantium Atoms cannot be broken by force (cutting is simply force on molecular level). The Evidence?: It hasn't been done thus far unless you subscribe to the storyline that Caps shield is an Adamantium/Vibranium alloy and it was only broken by a sky-father level being whose powers rivaled, if not surpassed, Odins and that was not pure Adamantium (again there are 2 canon versions of what the shield is made of and in one version it contains no Adamantium). Thor's hammer is magical and he is inordinately strong but his Hammer doesn't shatter true Adamantium or deform it. Also I used to think wolverine was one of the best character in marvel. now with his over-saturation and lot's of bad writing he is just ok to me.

Covalent bonds don't hold together protons, neutrons or electrons. And the bonds between them are not being broken by physical force but a magical one

Technically, yes, what holds protons, neutrons and electrons together is an electrostatic or electromagnetic bond and not covalent bonds, and a metallic bond is what holds metal atoms and molecules together. I used a scientific term out of context.

Just because something is 1)magically sharp does not necessarily mean that it doesn't use physical force to cut. It may simply cut at the sub-molecular or sub-atomic level. 2)We still don't actually know if her statement about slicing an electron off of an atom was hyperbole or not though so it being able to cut at a sub-atomic level remains to be seen.

  1. Doesn't mean that it does either. Out of the infinite possibilities for the mechanisms for how a magical blade can somehow cleave the bond between subatomic particles I don't know why you'd assume it's a mundane thing like physical force. Anyway if you we assume what she says about the sword is true, then it obviously can regardless of the mechanism.
  2. I don't know about that either. That's why I said "If"

It doesn't mean that it doesn't either. I assume that because cleaving a bond is still a physical act, only on a smaller scale than cleaving molecular bonds. Now if it absorbed the electrostatic bond that would be something different altogether, which still would likely not cut the Adamantium as it's bonds would likely resist the absorption.

Even if it could carve an electron off of an atom that does not mean that it could still cut Adamantium or that the magical nature of the weapon would allow it to somehow do so. The Ebony Blade is magical and can cut though anything but It did not cut Wolverines claws when he parried it. There are instances where science trumps magic. This is one such case.

I don't see an i if in your post to me that I commented on. I did not read any of your posts prior to you quoting and responding to my post. I am assuming you stated "if" in one of them? I simply made the conjecture concerning hyperbole based on your statement about physical force not anything that you may have posted previously.

Posted by vuviper

@TheSwordsman:

It doesn't mean that it doesn't either. I assume that because cleaving a bond is still a physical act, only on a smaller scale than cleaving molecular bonds.

That kind contradicts your earlier claim though. You said cleaving a bond is a physical act, yet you say it is impossible by physical means.

Now if it absorbed the electrostatic bond that would be something different altogether, which still would likely not cut the Adamantium as it's bonds would likely resist the absorption.

Are the attractions between electrons and protons in an adamantium atom any different than the attraction between any other electron or proton? Unless Adamantium is some new material which does not even have electrons and protons. It's atoms are composed of the same things and governed by the same forces. Electrons, protons, and neutrons don't vary between different materials. The smallest unit that retains the properties of a material is the atom.

Even if it could carve an electron off of an atom that does not mean that it could still cut Adamantium or that the magical nature of the weapon would allow it to somehow do so. The Ebony Blade is magical and can cut though anything but It did not cut Wolverines claws when he parried it. There are instances where science trumps magic. This is one such case.

Then it obviously can't cut through anything...

I don't see an i if in your post to me that I commented on. I did not read any of your posts prior to you quoting and responding to my post. I am assuming you stated "if" in one of them? I simply made the conjecture concerning hyperbole based on your statement about physical force not anything that you may have posted previously.

Ah, I had said that if it can do what she says it does it will cut adamantium. It might not have been to you.

Posted by TheSwordsman

@vuviper said:

@TheSwordsman:

It doesn't mean that it doesn't either. I assume that because cleaving a bond is still a physical act, only on a smaller scale than cleaving molecular bonds.

That kind contradicts your earlier claim though. You said cleaving a bond is a physical act, yet you say it is impossible by physical means.

Now if it absorbed the electrostatic bond that would be something different altogether, which still would likely not cut the Adamantium as it's bonds would likely resist the absorption.

Are the attractions between electrons and protons in an adamantium atom any different than the attraction between any other electron or proton? Unless Adamantium is some new material which does not even have electrons and protons. It's atoms are composed of the same things and governed by the same forces. Electrons, protons, and neutrons don't vary between different materials. The smallest unit that retains the properties of a material is the atom.

Even if it could carve an electron off of an atom that does not mean that it could still cut Adamantium or that the magical nature of the weapon would allow it to somehow do so. The Ebony Blade is magical and can cut though anything but It did not cut Wolverines claws when he parried it. There are instances where science trumps magic. This is one such case.

Then it obviously can't cut through anything...

I don't see an i if in your post to me that I commented on. I did not read any of your posts prior to you quoting and responding to my post. I am assuming you stated "if" in one of them? I simply made the conjecture concerning hyperbole based on your statement about physical force not anything that you may have posted previously.

Ah, I had said that if it can do what she says it does it will cut adamantium. It might not have been to you.

Dude. lets not start the soon to be mile long multi quote thing ok? If so then you can debate with someone else. That style is the epitome of boring and typically used when losing and needing to pick apart sentences and fabricate semantic anomalies to cover that fact up. If you are going to continue to break down my posts into sentences and parts of sentences and words then I will definitely pass. It is zero fun. (The common response to this is "if you can't handle it or keep up etc etc"..it is not that at all, it is just not at all enjoyable, and that's why i post and reply, to have fun)

It is indeed impossible to cleave Adamantium by physical means. I did not contradict myself by stating that cleaving on a sub-molecular scale is still physical just as cleaving molecules is. Both would fail versus Adamantium. I made that point clear. There is no contradiction, You are simply either becoming confused or attempting to fabricate contradictions.

Yes, the electrostatic/electromagnetic bond between electrons and protons and the nucleus are indeed different which is why Silver samurais tachyon field won't cut it. I hate to break it to you but Adamantium is a new material that defies many laws of physics.

The ebony blade is touted to be able to cut through anything, but it could not cut Adamantium, regardless of its magical properties. This is what i mean about arguing semantics. It is obvious that the "except adamantium" was both inferred and stated subsequently. Arguing semantics is not battling. its a smoke screen.

It was certainly not me who you stated 'If" to. No "might" about it You were mistaken. A cursory view of your prior posts should confirm this.

Posted by vuviper

@TheSwordsman: I just do the quotes to make sure I don't skip over any part of your post when replying. I do it to for the person I'm replying to, so if you don't like it I certainly don't have to.

Can silver samurai's tachyon field cut electrons from atoms? If so, it is exactly what I was looking for when I said "Unless Adamantium is some new material which does not even have electrons and protons" Though I admit I didn't think of the possibility of electrons and protons just being different in comics.

Theses are the statements that I found contradictory:

The Covalent bonds between the protons, neutrons, and electrons of Adamantium Atoms cannot be broken by force (cutting is simply force on molecular level).

I assume that because cleaving a bond is still a physical act, only on a smaller scale than cleaving molecular bonds.

If it is impossible to achieve via physical force, why would you assume it is a physical act? Wait, I think your first claim must have been the atoms of Adamantium exclusively can't be cut by physical force. Ok. My mistake. What is your evidence for that though? When has it been tried and failed? I've heard of Magneto manipulating adamantium at the atomic level.

The ebony blade being a magic weapon is relevant I admit, but not the point where it can actually prove anything if it has not been shown or described to be able to cut at the level we're talking about.

Well my initial reply to you was just talking about covalent bonds and magic. It was specific to your post not the topic as a whole:

@vuviper said:

Covalent bonds don't hold together protons, neutrons or electrons. And the bonds between them are not being broken by physical force but a magical one

Later you brought up the question of whether WW woman's blade would actually cut electrons off an atom. I replied that I shared those same reservations and stated that that is why I used "if" in my reply to the actual topic. My apologies if this was somehow miscommunication."

Posted by TheSwordsman

@vuviper said:

@TheSwordsman: I just do the quotes to make sure I don't skip over any part of your post when replying. I do it to for the person I'm replying to, so if you don't like it I certainly don't have to.

Can silver samurai's tachyon field cut electrons from atoms? If so, it is exactly what I was looking for when I said "Unless Adamantium is some new material which does not even have electrons and protons" Though I admit I didn't think of the possibility of electrons and protons just being different in comics.

Theses are the statements that I found contradictory:

The Covalent bonds between the protons, neutrons, and electrons of Adamantium Atoms cannot be broken by force (cutting is simply force on molecular level).

I assume that because cleaving a bond is still a physical act, only on a smaller scale than cleaving molecular bonds.

If it is impossible to achieve via physical force, why would you assume it is a physical act? Wait, I think your first claim must have been the atoms of Adamantium exclusively can't be cut by physical force. Ok. My mistake. What is your evidence for that though? When has it been tried and failed? I've heard of Magneto manipulating adamantium at the atomic level.

The ebony blade being a magic weapon is relevant I admit, but not the point where it can actually prove anything if it has not been shown or described to be able to cut at the level we're talking about.

Well my initial reply to you was just talking about covalent bonds and magic. It was specific to your post not the topic as a whole:

@vuviper said:

Covalent bonds don't hold together protons, neutrons or electrons. And the bonds between them are not being broken by physical force but a magical one

Later you brought up the question of whether WW woman's blade would actually cut electrons off an atom. I replied that I shared those same reservations and stated that that is why I used "if" in my reply to the actual topic. My apologies if this was somehow miscommunication."

Tachyons are smaller than atoms so presumably they could cleave electrons from their nucleus. Adamantium can still have protons, neutrons and electrons and still be immune to electron cleaving. Their electrostatic charge could simply be too powerful to overcome sub-atomically speaking. Adamantium is most definitely a new material compared to anything in real life and as i said it defies many laws of physics, as do many thing in comics.

There was nothing contradictory about those statement in terms of Adamantium being completely resistant to cutting. I was saying that even cleaving on a smaller scale than molecules is still a physical act and that adamantium will not be cut on a molecular scale or an atomic or sub atomic scale by physical cutting. It is is impossible to achieve via physical force and yes i meant and stated that it was concerning adamantium not being able to be cut by either molecular or atomic physical cutting. Tachyons nor magical blades cut it so obviously it is invulnerable to any type of cutting. Magneto manipulated Adamantium on a molecular level, he did not cut or destroy it, he simply manipulated its molecular bonds and mettallic so as to make it malleable. This is analogous to heating iron up, it is malleable in that state, but when cooled it cannot be cut easily.

The ebony blade can and does prove that Magic swords cannot cut Adamantium. If a magic sword can cut anything but cannot cut adamantium that shows that adamantium is immune to magical cutting. period.

In closing Adamantium can resist the Ebony blade it so can resist Wonder Womans sword. That is feat proof that it can resist a powerful magic sword that is stated to be able to cut anything. WW's sword would be no different. Later bro. I think i proved my case one or two posts ago. Later bro.

Posted by Freefa11

I vote "no" until she's shown to cut something that can be strongly argued as being at least on par with adamantium's durability, and not susceptible to magic.

Yes, I pretty much consider her statement hyperbole, for a couple of reasons. One is just that it doesn't even sound right. "Carve the electrons off an atom"? Electrons aren't connected to atomic nuclei the way a drumstick is connected to a turkey; even if it can separate the electrons, the term "carving" is so inappropriate, it sounds to me like (again) either hyperbole, or she doesn't really understand what she's talking about in the first place. I mean, what if someone built a giant sword and said it could "carve the planets off a solar system"? Doesn't that seem like kind of an odd statement?

The other big reason: assuming she's right, so what? Removing electrons from an atom is not hard. People have been doing it for centuries at least; just walk across a heavy carpet barefoot or something. Any kind of static electricity is going to involve stripping electrons from an object. It takes what, 13.6 electron volts to pop the electron off a hydrogen nucleus? That's nothing. Sure, the inner electrons of heavier elements are much more tightly bound, but even then, from a human perspective (let alone people who can exert enough force to break moons apart), it is an absolutely trivial amount of energy. The hard part is actually delivering it to the right electron in the right way. We can't really target specific electrons because they are way too small, and we haven't found a way around the Heisenberg uncertainty principle (which makes me wonder just how WW is supposed to accomplish this, if she can, since I really doubt her vision and aim is good enough to target specific electrons either), but if you want to knock a bunch of electrons off a chunk of gold or something, it's really not that hard, and scientists have been doing it for a good while now.

So yeah, I don't give that statement a lot of weight, because even if it's right, it seems virtually meaningless to me. I would give significantly more weight to actual cutting feats it performs.

Posted by Erik

@god_spawn said:

Screw it. I'll call CV's #1 Wolverine and Wonder Woman lover. I'm surprised I haven't seen him in here.

Yes the sword should be able to cut the adamantium since it cuts between the bonds that make it so durable in the first place. However, I also think an adamantium blade should be able to cut the sword if it connects on any side other than its edge since the sword is not made from ultra durable material that I am aware of.

Posted by vuviper

@Erik: I completely agree on both accounts

@TheSwordsman said:

@vuviper said:\

Tachyons are smaller than atoms so presumably they could cleave electrons from their nucleus. Adamantium can still have protons, neutrons and electrons and still be immune to electron cleaving. Their electrostatic charge could simply be too powerful to overcome sub-atomically speaking. Adamantium is most definitely a new material compared to anything in real life and as i said it defies many laws of physics, as do many thing in comics.

There was nothing contradictory about those statement in terms of Adamantium being completely resistant to cutting. I was saying that even cleaving on a smaller scale than molecules is still a physical act and that adamantium will not be cut on a molecular scale or an atomic or sub atomic scale by physical cutting. It is is impossible to achieve via physical force and yes i meant and stated that it was concerning adamantium not being able to be cut by either molecular or atomic physical cutting. Tachyons nor magical blades cut it so obviously it is invulnerable to any type of cutting. Magneto manipulated Adamantium on a molecular level, he did not cut or destroy it, he simply manipulated its molecular bonds and mettallic so as to make it malleable. This is analogous to heating iron up, it is malleable in that state, but when cooled it cannot be cut easily.

The ebony blade can and does prove that Magic swords cannot cut Adamantium. If a magic sword can cut anything but cannot cut adamantium that shows that adamantium is immune to magical cutting. period.

In closing Adamantium can resist the Ebony blade it so can resist Wonder Womans sword. That is feat proof that it can resist a powerful magic sword that is stated to be able to cut anything. WW's sword would be no different. Later bro. I think i proved my case one or two posts ago. Later bro.

Well just because it's small enough of particles doesn't mean it can actually do it. I mean electrons are small enough, but you don't see electricity projectors cleaving atoms. I know it's a fictional material, but that we would still assume it possess electrons protons and neutrons unless it's specifically stated that it does not. Without any actual evidence for it, there is no reason to believe that the electromagnetic force that holds adamantium atoms together would be different in any significant way.

It was my mistake, I misinterpreted what you were saying. Well more like I remembered it wrong. Any my apologies. Tachyon and magical blades immunity does not demonstrate immunity to being cut at the subatomic level. If magneto can manipulate it at a molecular metal than it is would suggest it is not immune to manipulation at that level.

the ebony blade is not representative of all magical cutting instruments. I don't know why would make such a claim. http://www.logicalfallacies.info/presumption/hasty-generalisation/

Posted by fangirl101

The sword would probably cut some of the electrons off. Not sure it would go all the way thru. But it will cut. Making like a glancing cut or shave. 

Posted by vuviper

@fangirl101 said:

The sword would probably cut some of the electrons off. Not sure it would go all the way thru. But it will cut. Making like a glancing cut or shave.

You know the rapid movement of electrons are what makes materials solid in the first place. A metal atom is going to be 99.999999% empty space. If their were a sword that could cut the very electrons off of a material, what exactly would stop it from going all the way through?

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