JLA/The Avengers vs Thanos/Darksied

Justice League line up Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, Aquaman, Wally West, Hal Jordan, Marian Manhunter, Zatanna, and Hawkman.The Avengers line up Captain American, Iron Man, The Hulk, Thor, Black Widow, Hawkeye, Nick Fury, Black Panther, Ant-Man, and The Wasp. Team 1 gets one week prep and time to train with one another, Moral Off. Fight takes place on Apocalypse. Thanos and Darksied at full power.

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Edited by venomoushatred1001

Team 2.

Edited by jeanroygrant

This is basically Superman, Wonder Woman, Wally West, Hal Jordan, Martian Manhunter, Zatanna, Thor, VS Thanos & Darkseid. The rest are non factors. Some can be used as stratigest and distractions though.

Posted by superstay

who do you think win

Edited by Ancient_0f_Days

Thanos and Darkseid...........either could potentially solo if in their prime.

Edited by kcaz

i'll say team 2. thanos is far too strong an opponent. he almost killed silver surfer with just a hand full of punches. so the key to team 1 winning is if batman has the resourse and knowledge for prep, which he doesnt. he knows about darkseid, but definitely not thanos

Posted by DrRenekton

@superstay said:

Thanos and Darksied at full power.

When you mean full power, does Thanos have IG and Darkseid with MB?

Posted by kcaz

@jeanroygrant said:

This is basically Superman, Wonder Woman, Wally West, Hal Jordan, Martian Manhunter, Zatanna, Thor, Hulk, and Ironman VS Thanos & Darkseid. The rest are non factors. Some can be used as stratigest and distractions though.

batman,fury,black panther given 1 week perp and you count them as non factors?

Posted by cliffrice

With a week of prep Team one should take this. I mean Iron man has an infinity Gem, Space gem if i recall (BFR anyone). Also between those people they should be able to come up with a strategy. I say team one 6/10 times.

MM can Turn hulk to maximum rage than sprinkle him with Pym particles to make him Huge than he godzillas apokalips.

Posted by Ancient_0f_Days

@kcaz said:

@jeanroygrant said:

This is basically Superman, Wonder Woman, Wally West, Hal Jordan, Martian Manhunter, Zatanna, Thor, Hulk, and Ironman VS Thanos & Darkseid. The rest are non factors. Some can be used as stratigest and distractions though.

batman,fury,black panther given 1 week perp and you count them as non factors?

I count them as non factors since their human intellect is muuuuuuuuuuuuuuch lesser than that of Thanos's or Darkseid's.

Posted by TAneT62

Team 1 with prep.

Posted by kcaz

@cliffrice said:

With a week of prep Team one should take this. I mean Iron man has an infinity Gem, Space gem if i recall (BFR anyone). Also between those people they should be able to come up with a strategy. I say team one 6/10 times.

MM can Turn hulk to maximum rage than sprinkle him with Pym particles to make him Huge than he godzillas apokalips.

really? BFR?? thanos and darkseid both can teleport, BFR is practically useless on them

Posted by kcaz

@Ancient_0f_Days said:

@kcaz said:

@jeanroygrant said:

This is basically Superman, Wonder Woman, Wally West, Hal Jordan, Martian Manhunter, Zatanna, Thor, Hulk, and Ironman VS Thanos & Darkseid. The rest are non factors. Some can be used as stratigest and distractions though.

batman,fury,black panther given 1 week perp and you count them as non factors?

I count them as non factors since their human intellect is muuuuuuuuuuuuuuch lesser than that of Thanos's or Darkseid's.

come on, stark has human intellect too, and he came out with the ironman suit. batman can built suits like these too, maybe even better. and with batman's intellect, he had contingency plans in his computer to defeat all JLA members, including the powerful ones like WW,Superman or MM

Posted by superstay

that's what Tony, Steve, Ant-Man, Bruce Banner, and Nick Fury are for. Wouldn't this guys along with Batman, MM, Hal Jordan be able to come up with a good plan.

Edited by Ancient_0f_Days

@kcaz said:

@Ancient_0f_Days said:

@kcaz said:

@jeanroygrant said:

This is basically Superman, Wonder Woman, Wally West, Hal Jordan, Martian Manhunter, Zatanna, Thor, Hulk, and Ironman VS Thanos & Darkseid. The rest are non factors. Some can be used as stratigest and distractions though.

batman,fury,black panther given 1 week perp and you count them as non factors?

I count them as non factors since their human intellect is muuuuuuuuuuuuuuch lesser than that of Thanos's or Darkseid's.

come on, stark has human intellect too, and he came out with the ironman suit. batman can built suits like these too, maybe even better. and with batman's intellect, he had contingency plans in his computer to defeat all JLA members, including the powerful ones like WW,Superman or MM

@superstay said:

that's what Tony, Steve, Ant-Man, Bruce Banner, and Nick Fury are for. Wouldn't this guys along with Batman, MM, Hal Jordan be able to come up with a good plan.

NO........darkseid built the entropy aegis armor..............top that......humans lose

Posted by jeanroygrant

@venomoushatred1001 said:

Team 2.

No Thor would get Destroyer Armour, & Superman would sun-dip for a week.

Posted by kcaz

@superstay said:

that's what Tony, Steve, Ant-Man, Bruce Banner, and Nick Fury are for. Wouldn't this guys along with Batman, MM, Hal Jordan be able to come up with a good plan.

still, i dont think they have enough info on enemies and heir technology to make sure that their prep is sufficient. they may have some brief info on darkseid, courtesy of superman, but i dont think they will have any info on thanos

Posted by emperorznb

@jeanroygrant said:

@venomoushatred1001 said:

Team 2.

No Thor would get Destroyer Armour, & Superman would sun-dip for a week.

Darkseid and Thanos are at full power... does that mean that this is HOTU Thanos and SFF Darkseid? Because if it is then Thor even with the destroyer armor or even Gold Supes would get stomped.

Edited by Ancient_0f_Days

@jeanroygrant said:

@venomoushatred1001 said:

Team 2.

No Thor would get Destroyer Armour, & Superman would sun-dip for a week.

If Thor gets destroyer armor.....darkseid gets EA armor..........atuo win

Thanos speaks for himself if he gets the IG

Posted by jeanroygrant

@emperorznb said:

@jeanroygrant said:

@venomoushatred1001 said:

Team 2.

No Thor would get Destroyer Armour, & Superman would sun-dip for a week.

Darkseid and Thanos are at full power... does that mean that this is HOTU Thanos and SFF Darkseid? Because if it is then Thor even with the destroyer armor or even Gold Supes would get stomped.

Heart Of The Universe is not Thanos's he can't use it when he wants.

Posted by superstay

You could add them if you want, I don't know that much about IG/MB. How would that alter the match results.

Edited by kcaz

@emperorznb said:

@jeanroygrant said:

@venomoushatred1001 said:

Team 2.

No Thor would get Destroyer Armour, & Superman would sun-dip for a week.

Darkseid and Thanos are at full power... does that mean that this is HOTU Thanos and SFF Darkseid? Because if it is then Thor even with the destroyer armor or even Gold Supes would get stomped.

i dont think its HOTU Thanos. HOTU Thanos is far too powerful and can even defeat LT and other most powerful cosmic beings. i think OP means normal Thanos and Darkseid who are not on steroids

Posted by emperorznb

@jeanroygrant said:

Heart Of The Universe is not Thanos's he can't use it when he wants.

Lol... I know that. But at that point he is at his most powerful and the OP said at their full power. Just asking if items are allowed.

Posted by emperorznb

@Ancient_0f_Days said:

If Thor gets destroyer armor.....darkseid gets EA armor..........atuo win

Thanos speaks for himself if he gets the IG

I believe team 2 doesn't get prep.

Posted by SexualLobster

Team 2, basically regardless IMO.

Edited by kcaz

@emperorznb said:

@Ancient_0f_Days said:

If Thor gets destroyer armor.....darkseid gets EA armor..........atuo win

Thanos speaks for himself if he gets the IG

I believe team 2 doesn't get prep.

but i believe team 1 still loses regardless... Both of them are at full power,Thanos is too powerful, he is cosmic level, earth levelers cant hold a candle to him. Darkseid is on home turf and should have all the equipment he needs there

Posted by Ancient_0f_Days

@emperorznb said:

@jeanroygrant said:

Heart Of The Universe is not Thanos's he can't use it when he wants.

Lol... I know that. But at that point he is at his most powerful and the OP said at their full power. Just asking if items are allowed.

they dont need em..........They could easily take the whole lot at full power without outside power ups........just look at PC Darkseid (gds) ..... he wan't even at full power and he was soloing the hundreds of Legionaries ... (Crisis didn't affect him so he just got de-powered) ..... Thanos swatted away surfer and stood up against Odin himself and took just about everything Big O had to offer at the time..............At full potential either Darkseid or Thanos can solo

Posted by nickthedevil

The Pruny looking villains take this.

Posted by joshuagamer

@Ancient_0f_Days: Batman's IQ is much higher than either Darkseid or Thanos'.

Posted by emperorznb

@joshuagamer said:

@Ancient_0f_Days: Batman's IQ is much higher than either Darkseid or Thanos'.

Regular Batman? HELL NO! Batman of DC one million... probably.

Posted by Voodoom

In my opinion I beleive this battle will be won depending on the stakes. 
 
If this is just a rumble then Thanos and Darkseid win.  they have the planet, Thanos' machines to pick off the JLA and Avengers.  Thanos is good at always being ready.   
 
Darkseid is powerful enough but with Thanos that team up would be unstoppable.  Thanos ability to absorb energy makes most distance fighting almost useless.  Only a select few would be fast enough (or possibly tough enough) to avoid the Omega Beams.  

 
If this battle is for the Universe, then JLA/Avengers take it due to Thanos' character flaw of always failing and such things because he knows he doesn't deserve the universe. 
 
I find the morals off to be...well uncharacteristic.  If that were the case though then they would gather the Infinity Gems and rebuild the Gauntlet then remove them from existence.  So in that regard Team 1 wins.
Edited by joshuagamer

@kcaz: This is Batman we're talking about- if he believes his threat is at "level 2", he'll prepare for "level 101,638,498,320"

Posted by emperorznb

@Voodoom said:

In my opinion I beleive this battle will be won depending on the stakes. If this is just a rumble then Thanos and Darkseid win. they have the planet, Thanos' machines to pick off the JLA and Avengers. Thanos is good at always being ready. Darkseid is powerful enough but with Thanos that team up would be unstoppable. Thanos ability to absorb energy makes most distance fighting almost useless. Only a select few would be fast enough (or possibly tough enough) to avoid the Omega Beams. If this battle is for the Universe, then JLA/Avengers take it due to Thanos' character flaw of always failing and such things because he knows he doesn't deserve the universe. I find the morals off to be...well uncharacteristic. If that were the case though then they would gather the Infinity Gems and rebuild the Gauntlet then remove them from existence. So in that regard Team 1 wins.

Thanos succeeds in everything he does... he kills everyone before he realizes that what he done was inconceivable. And completing the infinity gauntlet is a bit tedious there... but I do see Team 1 winning if they play the cards right.

@joshuagamer said:

@kcaz: This is Batman we're talking about- if he believes his threat is at "level 2", he'll prepare for "level 10,1638498320"

No... just no...

Posted by kcaz

@joshuagamer said:

@kcaz: This is Batman we're talking about- if he believes his threat is at "level 2", he'll prepare for "level 101,638,498,320"

i dont think he could even if he wanted to. the technology given to him is limited. if not, he would just make create a black hole or anti-matter gun

Posted by Ancient_0f_Days

@joshuagamer said:

@Ancient_0f_Days: Batman's IQ is much higher than either Darkseid or Thanos'.

I smell wank.............not even batman 1mil is at the level of intellect that either Thanos or Darkseid are.....just look at their tech...........you are wanking batman and I highly disapprove of that....

Posted by Blacklightning13

With no equipment I say team 1 for 6/10. So long as they used there prep wisely.

JLA:

With Superman sundipping and training others (having fought Darksied more then any other).

Batman making tactics, researching and building.

Wonder Woman training (having fought Darsied and she is a warrior) and making tactics.

Aquaman well... um... aaaahhh... well... yeah.

Wally West could research (at an extremely high speed.

Hal Jordan could study there designs and learn them so he can create more powerful constructs.

Martian Manhunter could make an unbreakable telepathic link between all of team 1 and also he could research (is a very good detective).

Zatanna could give everyone protective spells and also research more powerful spells for her to use.

Hawkman could learn how to use some more powerful weapons (still be swords and shit just because he likes that style best) (the ones other people build) and make tactics an strategies.

Avengers:

Captain America could train others and make tactics and strategies.

Iron man could build build weapons and equipment for the others to use. Also he could work with GL to make more Iron man suits (but tougher because they are made of Green light).

The Hulk as Banner could build and research as well.

Thor could go get the Destroyer Armour and help make tactics.

Black widow could help train the others.

Hawkeye could help make tactics and train the others.

Nick Fury could make tactics and build weapons.

Black Panther does the same as Batman.

Antman helps build weapons and stuff and also creates some size altering stuff for use by other people.

Wasp could make some great colour co-ordinated uniforms. Yay!

With some great prep they could win this. Time less well spent would mean death.

Posted by LockOmally

@kcaz said:

@Ancient_0f_Days said:

@kcaz said:

@jeanroygrant said:

This is basically Superman, Wonder Woman, Wally West, Hal Jordan, Martian Manhunter, Zatanna, Thor, Hulk, and Ironman VS Thanos & Darkseid. The rest are non factors. Some can be used as stratigest and distractions though.

batman,fury,black panther given 1 week perp and you count them as non factors?

I count them as non factors since their human intellect is muuuuuuuuuuuuuuch lesser than that of Thanos's or Darkseid's.

come on, stark has human intellect too, and he came out with the ironman suit. batman can built suits like these too, maybe even better. and with batman's intellect, he had contingency plans in his computer to defeat all JLA members, including the powerful ones like WW,Superman or MM

>batman can built suits like these too, maybe even better

Yeah no, Batman is smart but he is NOWHERE near the level of an engineer as tonystark. The best suit that Bruce has ever made is vastly inferior to one of tonys beginning suits.

Im not even that big a fan of his (hes kinda a cunt) But when people say shit like that it really rustles my jimmys

Edited by superstay

By full power I ment at there full ability without there power items.

Posted by cliffrice

@kcaz said:

@cliffrice said:

With a week of prep Team one should take this. I mean Iron man has an infinity Gem, Space gem if i recall (BFR anyone). Also between those people they should be able to come up with a strategy. I say team one 6/10 times.

MM can Turn hulk to maximum rage than sprinkle him with Pym particles to make him Huge than he godzillas apokalips.

really? BFR?? thanos and darkseid both can teleport, BFR is practically useless on them

space gem bfr yes, im sure it can make the bfr stick.

Posted by Ancient_0f_Days

Darkseid solos with OE FTW.......... Thanos solos with generic Hand Blast FTW.......combined human intellect means nothing here.....

Edited by chaos-soul

I say team one. Batman with prep time with stark tech and a bunch of powerhouses, some tactical geniuses and wakanda tech. I'm sure they will find a way to win.
also I'm sure they could get a hold of some asgardian enchanments.

Posted by Voodoom
@emperorznb

I don't entirely agree with Thanos succeeds in everything.  Because if he had there wouldn't be a Marvel Universe to have.  Thanos is his own worst enemy.
Posted by emperorznb

@Voodoom said:

@emperorznb: I don't entirely agree with Thanos succeeds in everything. Because if he had there wouldn't be a Marvel Universe to have. Thanos is his own worst enemy.

He succeeded in destroying reality but just recreated it because he realized that to rule in nothingness is futile.

Edited by Voodoom
@emperorznb
 
You are totally correct.  That did happen in The End so I wasn't considering that into the cards.   
 
I meant he doesn't succeed in EVERYTHING he does.  Not as in he doesn't eventually succeed in his long term goals.
Posted by GhostRider29

@jeanroygrant said:

This is basically Superman, Wonder Woman, Wally West, Hal Jordan, Martian Manhunter, Zatanna, Thor, Hulk, and Ironman VS Thanos & Darkseid. The rest are non factors. Some can be used as stratigest and distractions though.

And Batman in a week's prep. Lol

Posted by Petey_is_Spidey

Im going to say team 1. They already have encountered their opponents in the pass, and by now with prep should know how to beat them.

Posted by Petey_is_Spidey

@emperorznb said:

@jeanroygrant said:

@venomoushatred1001 said:

Team 2.

No Thor would get Destroyer Armour, & Superman would sun-dip for a week.

Darkseid and Thanos are at full power... does that mean that this is HOTU Thanos and SFF Darkseid? Because if it is then Thor even with the destroyer armor or even Gold Supes would get stomped.

Not necessarily. A Destroyer Armor Thor should give them the edge.

Posted by lol

T and D

Posted by reaverlation

JLA/Avengers wreck

Posted by Frozen

@reaverlation: OP says Thanos and Darkseid at their best, so basically HOTU Thanos and FC Darkseid............

Posted by reaverlation

@frozen: Then it's one sided regardless then for either team

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