JSA takes it.
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New 52 Darkseid Stomped the Justice League and tanked attacks from New 52 Superman who has the power to lift the planet for 7 days straight. Flash who can hit harder than a nuke warhead and withstand Lanterns blast and not be phased at all. Also DS one shotted the JL. Only Flash and Superman were left standing. JL had to regroup.
All that said DS stomps the Surfer. Theres no way the Surfer can handle that.
You gave DC Phantom Stranger...? HA!
I dont think just because Phantom Stranger is on DC teams here that he really gives them a huge advantage. Remember he was wiped out from existence by the Angel Zauriel. So even the immortals can die! It takes alot to kill them granted but with the out right numbers and Marvels heavy hitters the Annihilators I dont see how thats not possible. Remember Marvel also has Scarlet witch, and Dr. Strange. Marvel also has the numbers in this fight. Which is important to victory. I gave DC the Heavy hitters like Phantom stranger and Zauriel for two reasons. One they can easily be heavy hitters for DC and 2 so they help the overall field disadvantage i gave Marvel by giving them more number of players.
And dont tell me that Dr. Strange is so much of a disadvantage to Marvel when the Silver Surfer, Thor, Dr. Strange have easily killed gods/Immortals before. I dont think any of those marvel teams can be underrated here. Both the Avenger team and the Xmen are some badasses.
To be honest i thought this thread would have more hits tho :(. When do we see a all out war like this on the vine? And a battle royal winner!
@supermandefender: No what? Matches is a New 52 expert and this is his playing field
I am not this Match guy. And with him being the expert on 52 stuff id like him to come in and see what he thinks.
Rules: All characters are in characters unless stated otherwise in certain Rounds. No BFR, DC is New 52 Characters only. No ancient Marvel scans please stay current. Scans allowed as far back as year 2001 to current date. All characters are at there normal power levels no extra power increases. Example: NO Thor OD Force. No Superman Sundipping. However, the Flash using any speed force powers are allowed because he can access them as its apart of his power set.
Teams consist of:
the Justice League: Members are: Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, Green Lantern(Hal), Flash(Barry), Cyborg, and Aquaman.
the Justice League of America: Members are: Green Arrow, Katana, Martian Manhunter, Green Lantern Simon Baz, Stargirl, Vibe, Hawkman and Catwoman.
Justice League Dark: Members are: John Constantine, Zatanna, SwampThing, Nightmare Nurse, Deadman, Madame Xanadu, Frankenstein, Dr. Mist, Black Orchid, Phantom Stranger, Pandora, Question, and Zauriel(the Angel)
Avengers: Members are: Captain America, Thor, Ironman, Hulk, She-Hulk, Spiderman, Spiderwoman, Vision, Scarlet Witch, Dr. Strange, Ms. Marvel, Black Widow, Hawkeye, and Nick Fury.
Annihilators: Members are: Silver Surfer, Beta Ray Bill, Ronan, Gladiator, Nova and Quasar.
Xmen: Members are: Professor Xavier, Wolverine, Cyclops, Jean Gray(No Phoenix), Storm, Gambit, Nightcrawler, Rogue, Beast, Iceman, ArchAngel, Emma Frost, Colossus, and Magneto.
Round 1: All out fight. Which side wins? DC or Marvel? And why? All character are still in character. Morals on but teams have to fight.
Round 2: All characters are Bloodlusted. Which side takes it? Still no BFR or Field Removals. This is a fight.
Round 3: Everybody vs Everybody! Anything goes. Its a Battle Royal who is the last man/woman standing? All characters are bloodlusted.
@jmarshmallow: I can understand that. But at the same time it's difficult to propose that Death-Seed Sentry would be able to exceed The Void's capabilities against particular opponents when he hasn't exhibited the means. So either way.
Either way, sure, but you're going to have to have a suspension of disbelief for a moment there, because I really don't see how you actually plan on debating AGAINST writers statements? Once you manage to figure that one out, come back and let me know!
Superman-Prime's amp started to wane during his fight with Monarch, so in a last ditch effort he tore open his chest-plate, unleashing energy that purged the universe of life.
You mean his amp that he wouldn't have while facing Sentry? Or the amp he wouldn't have while facing Thor? Either way, that right there proves that Superman Prime needed an amp to go up against Monarch, whereas I think DS Sentry could have fared just as well, if not better, without one.
In addition, that also shows that if Superman Prime were to go up against Thor WITHOUT his amp, he wouldn't absolutely demolish him like you seem to believe. And he certainly wouldn't embarrass him like Sentry did.
Otherwise they were fighting on pretty even ground, though Monarch could be argued as having the advantage due to him not taking the fight as seriously as Prime.
So Monarch had the advantage over an AMPED Superman Prime? Now I'm not saying that the feat isn't impressive, in fact when I read it I thought it was totally bad@$$. But let's be honest here, it doesn't really show me that Superman Prime, with or without the amp, could stand a chance of beating a dude who's STRONGER than a dude who beat Molecule Man. Let alone manhandling Thor like Sentry did.
The reason I say he'd do so to Thor is because Monarch utterly destroyed an army of heroes composed of Green-Lanterns, Wonder-Women, Supermen, Flashs, and more before moving on to over 50 Captain Atoms, all with CASUALLY. Many of which after letting them attack him first.
Again, very impressive, and totally BAMF'y. But let's not forget that not only was SP amped, he also was going up against an opponent who wasn't taking the fight seriously at ALL, because he didn't expect Superman Prime to be so powerful. It's cool, but not as HUGE of a feat when you really break it down and take everything into context.
While Prime couldn't stake a notable advantage, he performed better than all of them combined. Even after Monarch had assumed him dealt with.
Agreed, but we've been over this already so I won't both repeating everything above.
So I could definitely see a case made for Death-Seed Sentry. I still however think Thor would die, haha.
Oh, Thor would die. But it would be a good fight, unlike Sentry vs Thor which just made me feel bad for the Thunder god...
This is just a overall bad piece of information spreading out to the public. I am not going to say that you are just out right wrong but that your arguments are %100 flawed.
I cant blame you though everyone that has visited this page is wrong.
Team 2 defientily.
Ultrons primary Adamntium Armour isn't getting destroyed, the Silver Surfer could make Supermsn a non-factor, by using his cosmic awareness; and hitting him with red sun energy attacks, or draining him.
Mr Majestic is the biggest hurdle for team 2, it will come down to Mr Majestic and Black Adam Vs Team 2, Team 2 wins with IMO Mr Majestic being the last standing for team 1.
The combination of Thor's best attacks from Mjnoir and what a Blood-lusted Silver Surfer can do is what it will take to end Mr Majestic.
This is completely wrong. First off, Superman has enough resistance to withstand Surfers levels of cosmic draining and red solar energy attacks. Surfer has a better chance in trying to create a red star if he wishes to depower Superman. Which i highly doubt he can do.
Its one thing to drain energy from stars or characters that dont have a mastery over there energy (like the Hulk) but its quite a different story with Superman. Here is your problem dont assume the outcome of effects when you have no idea what your talking about. Everything you just said is completely in your own head without any actual facts to base this off of.
I know this has probably been done before but just want to restart it fresh and see if anything has changed.
Rules: This is Pre-52 Spectre vs current Eternity. No rules anything goes all out fight. Last one standing. Battleground is in a neutral universe both characters retain all there powers and are at full power.