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#1 Posted by Super_SoldierXII (6465 posts) - - Show Bio

I hope Marvel reboots.

Regular continuity has grown ... messy ...

Maybe not a clean slate ... but definitely a "cleaner" one would be apropos methinks.

I dig the costumes and the art. Psylocke in particular is looking sharp. Hulk with *snicker* pink tribal tats. But y'know what? They don't look nearly half as bad as they sound on paper.

#2 Edited by Super_SoldierXII (6465 posts) - - Show Bio
#3 Posted by Super_SoldierXII (6465 posts) - - Show Bio

Fairly confident Elektra should have been seen winning this one.

How about Oli vs. Frank next.

Castle can have his vengeance.

#4 Posted by Super_SoldierXII (6465 posts) - - Show Bio

@super_soldierxii: Mjolnir moving quickly and following a command does not give Thor reaction time or combat speed. It at most makes it a threat when he throws it at someone because it can go fast and he doesn't really need to think or move quickly for that to happen.

The second scan is a frequently taken out of context scan. Odin enchanted the Hammer so that Thor could not throw it away to punish Thor and prevent his suicide attempt. It never got to the ends of the galaxy because Odin didn't let it. Which kind of makes sense, given that, of all people, Thor should know how fast and far he can fling Mjolnir. So no, not very sorry for Flash, just sorry for the people who've never read the story and assume things of it that didn't happen off of one really, REALLY out of context page.

If you find the scan of him reacting to someone moving around at FTL speeds then that'd be greatly appreciated. It'd probably be Thor's best reaction feat if it is as you describe.

Well, I haven't read the book so thanks for the clarification, took it from a respect thread and had no idea it was being taken out of context. I find it odd Thor was trying to kill himself though. Seems grossly out of character. Even with his "daddy" issues.

#5 Posted by Super_SoldierXII (6465 posts) - - Show Bio

@dredeuced:

Had similar debates dozens of times over, so won't go into too much detail save to say I believe you're wrong about Surfer's reaction timing. The one feat that comes to mind is Surfer rescuing Mantis and Shalla Bal from a Sphere that explodes on contact. They were both inside the sphere and he had them out and away long before the sphere could even register said "contact".

Though, I do readily admit, I do not know of any feats highlighting Surfer's fist moving at said speeds.

As to Thor, when he has Mjolnir in hand, his reaction speeds are indeed superhuman. He managed to build a trench around crazed Avengers and civilians faster than a speeding Quicksilver could circumvent and / or escape;

photo ThorSuperspeed09Avengers098.jpg

He moves incredibly fast with Mjolnir when not dumbed down for the sake of plot as he has been the past handful of years.

He's also caught up to, and smacked down, Hermes the God of Speed and Travel a few times IIRC.

As to Mjolnir's travel speed to contend with Flash, Thor's flung it to the farthest corners of the galaxy and it returned in less than sixty seconds.

photo ThorMjolnir116-SpeedWhomtheGodsWoul.jpg

That would require many billion times the speed of light. Sorry Flash.

Can't find the scans highlight Thor reacting to Surfer zooming around Asgard ... but it's a fairly well known feat. If I find it later, I'll throw it up.

#6 Edited by Super_SoldierXII (6465 posts) - - Show Bio

Too many unknown variables with Mjolnir to say "Flash easily". If Flash starts the fight by turning Thor into an immobile statue, then yeah, he wins rather easily. But how often does Flash open with that approach?

Thor's senses see him functioning at faster than light speeds, which is to say, acknowledging and reacting to objects moving at said speeds. He deals with the likes of the Silver Surfer (or rather his hammer does) who, by all intents and purposes, can move faster than Flash (oops, can of worms) and has reacted to Surfer zipping through Asgard at said speeds.

This is essentially Flash versus Mjolnir. In this, Thor's a bit of a dichotomy. Doesn't have the reaction speed to deal with Wolverine, but can knock the bajeezus out of a speedster of the Silver Surfer's caliber. Still don't know what to make of that, aside from the possibility Thor simply does not unleash Mjolnir's full potential on mere street levelers.

Thor's only chance is from on high, then sicking his hammer on Flash. He swoops in to deal with Flash in person, and he loses.

#7 Edited by Super_SoldierXII (6465 posts) - - Show Bio

@dredeuced said:

@super_soldierxii said:

Just came in to say, poor Thor. Dudes had a few years of low balling in Marvel land, loses his hammer, then loses his arm.

Three of my favorite characters getting absolutely mauled by Marvel the past few years.

First Cornellverine's terribad Logan depictions (gladly at least his "death" was relatively well handled). Next Steve is sidelined, now old and infirm. Finally, Thor. Damn. Really not into him losing an appendage.

If you think that's bad, just look at what they did to Wally.

Literally erased his wife and kids from existing, turned him back into a kid, made him a crappy criminal, and made his parents abandon him and ruined his relationship with his only remaining relative.

And Bart, jesus, Bart might've gotten the worst character butchering in history with the New 52.

Atleast the Thor stuff is probably temporary.

Yeah ... DC tends to be more merciless in going to extremes with their mainstays on a whole than Marvel I readily admit. That said, with so many alternate universes in DC land, so many different versions of their core characters running around, it's a bit strange they were so heavy handed with Wally in standard continuity.

I do hope the Thor situation is only temporary. I hope they reboot. That said, I do like the idea of making him temporarily unworthy of Mjolnir. There's some potentially good storytelling in that. I just hope they justify it with a cool back story, and that the "whys" and "wherefores" make sense and remain in character with the honorable man Thor is. I want to read about a Thor de-powered, without his principle power source, if only to see him fight with more skill, more grit. His durability, strength and prowess are still intact. I just hope writers acknowledge that and don't just use him as a soppy punching bag is all.

Overall, I take more exception to some very lackluster showings on his part the past 2-3 years than anything else. He is Marvel's premiere powerhouse. I think they need to highlight that fact a lot more, and in more original ways.

#8 Edited by Super_SoldierXII (6465 posts) - - Show Bio

Just came in to say, poor Thor. Dudes had a few years of low balling in Marvel land, loses his hammer, then loses his arm.

Three of my favorite characters getting absolutely mauled by Marvel the past few years.

First Cornellverine's terribad Logan depictions (gladly at least his "death" was relatively well handled). Next Steve is sidelined, now old and infirm. Finally, Thor. Damn. Really not into him losing an appendage.

#9 Posted by Super_SoldierXII (6465 posts) - - Show Bio

Don't know how any team with the name "Avengers" in it, can possibly justify, even in comic book land, having Victor Creed as a team member.

He's a psychopath. In continuity, he's killed defenseless women, and even children, by the dozens, if not hundreds. Men by the thousands. He's a sadist. He doesn't just kill, he gets off on it. He values his morning dump more than he does human life. It would be like having a serial killer and serial rapist join a team of operators designed to protect and serve.

Hope there's more to his new recruitment than meets the eye. Like I said, I know this is comics, but a little rhyme and reason to things does not hurt ones creative credibility all the same.

#10 Posted by Super_SoldierXII (6465 posts) - - Show Bio

@keenko said:

@super_soldierxii: Well, I read somewhere that Remender has said that Sam's training with the shield will come up in the story.

Meh. It's comics so I can suspend my belief somewhat.

I mean, I can train in Jeet Kune Do as hard as I like, doesn't mean I will be as good as Bruce Lee. I'd have to have trained my whole life to even stand a chance at getting close to Bruce's skill level.

Sam will have learned to master the shield in, what, weeks? Months? Certainly not years ... which would be the minimum to even come close. Additionally, Steve's serum enhances him in every way, including the expediency with which he learns combat techniques. Sam is just not in the same ballpark and should not be portrayed as being in such either.

It demeans and devalues Steve Rogers and fans of the character don't have to like it. For me, it's akin to the Black Knight picking up a bow to replace Hawkeye overnight. Or Clint picking up the Ebony Blade to replace Dane. Doesn't sit right.

They're masters in their respective styles and should not be so easily replaced. It's really the ONLY thing that makes their combat style and superhero schtick unique. Likewise with Steve and his shield.

But yeah, let's see how it's handled before flipping out about it. Agreed.