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@citizenbane said:

Perhaps we simply have radically different ideas of what "giving someone a fight" comprises. You seem to think irritating people for a bit or not getting one-shotted immediately or doing all sorts of things that would in no way alter the ultimate outcome of a fight comprise giving someone a fight; none of those things do. Spider-Man was never going to beat Hercules or even hurt him in any way. He bruised his hands just punching Herc, then webbed him up and left before Herc broke free. That is hardly doing well. Spider-Man did not do anything worth mentioning to Thunderstrike or Rulk while blitzing them. Again; not really doing well. Spider-Man can blitz the Hulk, sure. Nothing will actually happen to Hulk, but he can blitz him for a while before Hulk breaks him in half. If that's your idea of doing well, all power to you. I have no idea how you think Wolverine going up against Omega Red is comparable to Hulk going up against Hyperion, and something tells me I don't even want to know, but Silver Samurai and Lady Deathstrike are both packing different skills that let them fight Logan. Both of them can at least manage to inflict significant amounts of damage to Logan, something Spider-Man cannot do to Hercules or Hulk or Thor or Rulk or whomever else while he's blitzing them, and that's setting aside the fact that Silver Samurai hasn't been a threat to Logan for a while now.

I guess you are correct.Btw,Thunderstrike did mention that if he didn't do sommething quickly,he would get floored.Then he stuck him with his hammer.

That Wolverine vs Omega Red comparison is made to show that even though someone like Wolverine(Hulk in your case) goes up against powerful beings like Omega Red(Hyperion in your case),there is a chance that people with lesser abilities than him can give him a run for his money(Lady Deathstrike,Spider-man).

Back to the topic now,I honestly don't think Wolverine can take them both down.Either one sure,but not together.

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@stronger said:

@citizenbane said:

@stronger said:

I have my opinion,you have yours....

Your opinion is incongruous to the reality of Hulk vs Spider-Man. There is little point in continuing to claim Spider-Man can pose a threat to Hulk as a counter to various arguments if all you have to back it up is an opinion.

Spider-man has gone up against other powerhouses and has done really well,like Absorbing Man,Rhino,Hercules,Iron Man,Colossus,Blob and I think even Rulk,Thunderstrike and Juggernaut.And if I am not mistaken,he has beaten some of them.

That alone should be enough to consider Spider-man would give a fight to Hulk like he did to them.

Absorbing Man is a moron who loses practically every fight he enters. Kitty Pryde nearly killed him a couple of weeks ago. LEGO bricks have defeated Absorbing Man. Beating him hasn't been impressive for decades now. Rhino is barely even a 100 tonner. Hercules has slapped Spider-Man aside. Iron Man has negated the Spider-Sense and swiftly taken Parker down, and he's melted right through a ton of Spider-Man's webbing, and the only time Spider-Man has done any good against him was while he was wearing the Iron Spider armor that Stark designed. Spider-Man webbed Colossus in the face during Secret Wars; it's not like he beat him up or knocked him out, and he was beaten to a bloody pulp by Colossanaut. Blob? Really? Blob? That's your idea of a powerhouse? I'm not aware of Spider-Man doing anything to Rulk apart from darting around him. He blitzed Diet Coke Thor and not much actually happened. He beat Juggernaut by luring him into cement. Doesn't lend itself to an argument that he's going to beat them up with his bare hands.

Consider some more.

All these are nice etc,but you forgot one major thing.I never said he actually beat them.I said he gave them trouble.Also I never said Spider-man would beat Hulk.I just said he'd give him a fight.Following your logic only because Wolverine goes up against guys like Omega Red (Like Hulk against Hyperion),other guys like Silver Samurai and Lady Deathstrike shouldn't be able to give him a good fight.

I honestly do not understand your logic and I can't follow it.

If he is able to blitz Masterson and Rulk for a while then why not the Hulk?

And Spidey did really well against Hercules in a fight that I recall.

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@stronger: You're welcome dude. I like that Lion Mane is getting the spolight now and become a toughsupervillain,pre-flashpoint he was so forgetful...

Agreed.

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@stronger said:

I have my opinion,you have yours....

Your opinion is incongruous to the reality of Hulk vs Spider-Man. There is little point in continuing to claim Spider-Man can pose a threat to Hulk as a counter to various arguments if all you have to back it up is an opinion.

Spider-man has gone up against other powerhouses and has done really well,like Absorbing Man,Rhino,Hercules,Iron Man,Colossus,Blob and I think even Rulk,Thunderstrike and Juggernaut.And if I am not mistaken,he has beaten some of them.

That alone should be enough to consider Spider-man would give a fight to Hulk like he did to them.

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Arkham Asylum Scarecrow.

Agreed

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What's the point of this thread.

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Pretty much nearly all Batman villains can be scary.Yes.Even Penguin.

Apart from the Eraser.

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Birds of Prey sucked.

I expect Batman will be much better

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