Stormcell

So, I'm going to play Devil's advocate, here. Exactly how does Jean's pink form win this? Not only has Poccy physically overpowered the likes of Hulk and Ikaris (Jean's pink form isn't that strong, and don't bother trying to bring up Galactus or Gladiator since I can prove both were jobbed for Jean), he also has the power to teleport making him hard to hit. So, boosting her TK attacks with her pink form won't work. Besides, Exodus is a much more powerful telekinetic than Jean, and Poccy trapped him in a force-field he couldn't break through. What's to stop him from doing the same to Jean? Then, on top of it, his mental defenses are too strong for her TP.

Fair warning, I'm not going to get too involved in this debate.

Non-PIS'd Magneto's mental defenses are far too strong for Jean Grey.

His willpower alone can stalemate Classic Xavier's TP: https://2.bp.blogspot.com/iwcxJfumk_vOCt60Ay3sX20E9gHogteH0Uda4AJpiZGiSfSlwdZbObWlrtpqe23_92gqvylM34YB=s1600

He can use his EM fields to jam psi-powers as he did in a scan on the previous page and he did again here: https://2.bp.blogspot.com/8iQJlib7KhNQLjk4oS3y1WLgvhn_kEQbnRTQDgf0zHB2q7ULOFu1qJp1iAqolBsYfRbJcKF6muVG=s1600

Plus his helmet gives him an additional layer of protection from TP which he can use in tandem with his other TP defenses.

Then, he narrowly bested Phoenix Force Jean Grey here: https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-axQl7T_rpY1SdLqjuWjdXFljjOasGqRUQsb54O2YjEJnDjq89B0MYklrpWUvyEy-7V6ZSQWjSoU=s1600

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/V4lBLXy4kjExJX_mQVtlKm66mOnTvTZQbjef7V2x2jLfTQ1LmM3qv7tBrpUP7CSGvDsjFn0RLKDn=s1600

Jean doesn't stand a chance against a non-PIS'd Magneto.

Jean was boosted by the Phoenix Force in every single scan of #7 save for the first one. Those feats don't count.

This is not true. He prevented them from consciously accessing their powers by manipulating the iron in their bloodstream. He didn't do squat to their genes. He's no Candra.

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Notice how Storm even says they were still possessed of their abilities which wouldn't have been true had he done it on a genetic level.

1) Magneto has the ability to affect energy at the subatomic level. We saw his use this power to disrupt Proteus's energy form. While Proteus was devalued for Magneto to use this feat successfully against him, he could easily pull this on Jean's TK field since psionic energy is at least in part composed of electrons. So, no, Jean's telekinetic field shouldn't stop Magneto.

2) Jean doesn't automatically get Thing's high end feats simply because she strained her TK to match his super strength just long enough for him to run out of breah while he was trapped in the vacuum of space and she was not in one issue. Until Jean proves she can lift 10,000 tons or 30,000 tons, she can't do it.

Team 1 all the way. If you take a non-PIS'd Shadow King, he murders Jean. He's more powerful than she plus he has greater skill and experience than even Xavier.

Team two doesn't have anyone who can really hang in with Storm or Iceman. (Well, Jean could down Iceman with a mindblast I suppose, but Shadow King would deal with her.)

@del_torro: I've gotta disagree with some of what you say.

1) Xavier is not beating Shadow King in a fair fight if SK stops playing games and both of them go all out. At his base levels, Shadow King matches Xavier in power, but he has greater skill and experience. Granted, after the early 2000s, Shadow King's power levels seem to have become inconsistent, but if you take both of them at their best, SK wins unless he fools around.

2) There is no way Nova loses to Jean. You forgot to add when Jean tricked Nova with illusions, Jean's power was boosted by Searebro, the most powerful version of Cerebro. Keep in mind that Cerebra increases the strength of a telepath tenfold, and Searebro>Cerebra.

And what high power attack did Jean pull on Nate? I hope you don't mean when he allowed Jean to show him the pain he was causing humanity because he wasn't fighting her at that time. Again, he allowed her to show him, and he was only affected by it because he was trying to do good. It wasn't his intention to cause distress.

Nova isn't going to let down her defenses and open her mind to Jean like Nate did when she showed him the pain of humanity. Furthermore, even if she allowed Jean to show her the pain, Nova wouldn't care. In fact, she'd be glad to cause such distress.

3) If Jean and Xavier decide to team up, then Shadow King and Nova would do the same, and the other side goes down badly. Both Farouk and Nova hold grudges against either Xavier or Jean or both while they don't have a beef with each other. It would come down to King vs. Nova after Xavier and Jean are gone. King>>>Nova unless the King plays around with his food.

4) Jean is nothing with prep unless she has Cerebra with her. I don't think the rules allows for gadgets, but I could be wrong.

"Classic" is my way of saying "non-PIS". We are not going to erase past feats from people like Shadow King and Xavier just to give Jean a shot. If all the characters are given their due, Jean gets murdered in this fight.

Let's get the obvious out of the way first. Classic Shadow King> Classic Xavier>>>Nova>>>>>Jean Grey

The reason I give SK the edge over Classic Xavier is while he matches Prof. X in power, he has greater skill and experience. That said, if Classic Shadow King doesn't play with his food like he usually does, he'd win. However, because he tends to play around when fighting other telepaths, it may give Xavier the opening he needs to win.

Moving on, Jean comes in dead last in this fight. She's so far below the other psis it isn't funny. She really shouldn't be here. Cassandra Nova comes in third place after giving a good accounting for herself with Xavier and Shadow King competing for first and second place.

Now, if Shadow King really wanted to play it smart, I'd wager that Nova's animosity towards Xavier is so great that she'd target him first. That would leave Shadow King a clear shot at Jean Grey. Once he overpowers Jean, he can take possession of her and add her strength to his. Now, his power levels are equal to Xavier+Jean Grey.

Shadow King is now positioned to choose which foe he'd rather fight between Nova and Xavier while they continue fighting. Given his beef with Xavier, I'd bet that's the foe he'd pick. So, after Nova gets destroyed by a mindblast from Shadow King while she's distracted in her losing fight against Xavier, that leaves an amped SK vs. Xavier. SK crushes Xavier in this fight.

@onsipin: Selene has more at her disposal than just telepathy. She can counter telepathy with magic, and also animate structures around Rachel to distract her, divinding the focus she can use to fuel her TP. Once Selene animates a giant golem or something, it no longer requires her attention to attack. It becomes akin to a living thing that does whatever she tasked it to do. That frees Selene's full concentration to do other things while Rachel has to fight golems while simultaneously waging psychic warfare with this foe. Also, if Selene gets an opening to use a spell to shut down Rachel's TP, it's game over for Rachel.