" I think Thor takes the majority, especially after the scans of him removing Magnus's force field, which would be their only real protection from him. If BFR is still an option he could do that as well. I don't think Skaar's earth manipulation will be enough to do damage to Thor, and I don't think he could take Thor in a straight on fight. I was thinking that Storm, though unable to handle Thor, could have a more strategic use of her powers to amplify Magneto's powers, and increase the ambient moisture in the air for Iceman, (can't really think of a use for Johnny) but I don't think that it would be enough to overcome Thor. "
Great points, and I agree that a well written Thor is probably too much for this team.
Namor, Ms. Marvel, and Thor should be able to hold off Amazo while Emma has time to react and keep everyone shielded from psi attacks. Amazo likely will psi attack before Emma could react and bring a few members down. Sue and Magneto can provide heavy defense for Emma against his attacks. The real problem I see here is his phasing and don't believe anyone here would be able to affect him much besides maybe Blink and Magneto. The Team's best chance of bringing him down is for someone to hold Amazo off while Blink attempts to destroy him with a teleportation scatter. Magneto could probably do this if he attempted to wrap him in a magnetic force field, with Thor supplying him the sufficient power to hold. If no one can do that, Amazo will eventually eat through the team's defenses with hulk's strength, durability and healing factor, Vision's phasing and Hellions tk.
" @marvellover1: raven is tough ill admit that. renember wolverine regenerats all the time. he has a healing ability renember? so hes basicly invinsible. "
I honestly don't think Logan's regeneration will help him much against someone of Raven's capabilities. The only real shot team one has is Storm's reaction. And if she doesn't strike before the others do then I do not believe they could pull an honest win.
@BlackDove said:
" @Storm Calling: It's all good :) And sorry if I may have sounded a bit rude. "
It's perfectly fine, I didn't take it that way at all. :)
" @velle37: Garth is pure blooded Atlantean, that automatically means his speed is superior to a human. Atlanteans are physically superior in every way. Vandal Savage is freaking powerful. A loss to him is no shame. When he was human Black Manta had a suit that allowed him to engage Atlanteans, and at the time Aquaman was weaker than he is now. Ocean Master is not really only human, and this is an example of sorcery trumping other powers. Showings with Aquaman and low showings in general are irrelevent. They didn't disarm him because of PIS. Storm is not supersonic. Officially she is listed around 300 mph. Supersonic is 716. Garth isn't restricted to blasts. He can do area effects. He displaced the entire Atlantean civilization in time. What can Storm do against that? Storm has no way of interfering with Garth's hydrokinesis. She can manipulate water, but not well enough to take control away from someone who does it better than she ever has.Storm has sorcery in her blood, yes, but it does not grant her any resistance or immunity. It just makes it easier for her to learn it. "
That is the handbooks, Storm can increase her speed by riding lightning bolts, which she has done on several occasions (93,000mpsecond). Which is much faster then the speed of sound.
" @BlackDove: Prep does not = Using powers before the match. It only means they get time to prepare for the match. Such as building up battle strategies or weaknesses. Her precognition abilities are understandable, but phasing before the match starts is pushing it. "
My thread = My rules. Thanks. I was referring to her meditating abilites which Storm also uses to stay in control of her powers. I never said phasing. Please re-read the post. "
You responded to a post of mine towards another poster who claimed raven could start the match phased, and explained that this is what the prep was for. Which it is not in any normal rules set into place for prep.
@BlackDove
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" @Storm Calling said:
" @marvellover1 said:
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" @marvellover1: Then that would be using her powers prematurely. "
And? she still has used her vison to know the attack and what to expect , Cosmic has changed my opinion i see team 2 taking both rounds. "
Using your powers before the match begins is invalid. It's not how the battles work. She has to start with nothing on unless specified. "
That's what the 10 min. prep is for. The 10 min. prep is here so that the opponents can evaluate each other's powers which should include meditating. If both Storm and Raven didn't meditate, then they both would lose control of their powers meaning total destruction. "
You never specified that the characters could use their powers right before the match is about to begin, you only specified prep. Which is figuring out weaknesses and battle strategies. Figuring this out with powers is fine, such as precognition or meditating. But using your powers, such as phasing just before the match begins is spite and is unfair.
Edit: Nevermind, I think i see what you were talking about, I believe you were agreeing with me instead saying marvellover1's point was valid. Sorry about that. :(
" @Storm Calling: Yes an F5 hurricane, what you dont seem to get is that Storm had ample time to gather whatever energies she needed to make it happen and not just smash the entire building they were inside."
Even if she was building a charge to blow up the room with an F5 tornado(I'm putting emphasis because the winds in an F5 tornado are alot stronger then winds in a category 5 hurricane), it wasn't but a second or two since Emma was running out the room as fast as she could, which was nothing more than a few steps away. And that's being generous considering it didn't even show any signs of her using her powers anytime before the room exploded. It was also so abrupt and brunt that Emma didn't even register what she had done. So yeah, still a great display of power in such a short amount of time.
" @Storm Calling: I thought i mentioned that point earlier, about her maybe being able to do that. it sounds plausible sense she can manipulate the nervous system. "
Yes, the fact that she can see the nervous system in the human body would make this feat well within her capabilities.
" @czarny_samael: I would think so too with the range of comicbook showings, the speed of thought varies a great deal depending on the person and and their skills/ experience.
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These scans doesn't prove that Storm thinks faster. I am talking about people whos power depends on thier mind, on psionic powers. "
Storm's powers are psionic, she fits into that category.
Funny thing is Storm can control her own bio electricity and generate it into bio electric lightning bolts. Wouldn't she necessarily be able to boost her own bioelectric impulses to increase her reaction as well as control the bio electricity of others? Not using this for a battle strategy, just saying. :)
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