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Currently reading old 10-yr old PMs from my mod days, involving Erik, Spike, Babs, RazzaTazz, etc. lmao. The Vine was a circus.

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#1  Edited By Static Shock

That’s a good point, I haven’t seen T’Challa use most of his normal advanced tech since he lost his role as King of Wakanda. Isn’t he also currently exiled?

He is exiled. However, the vibranium nanoweave with all of his tech is housed in his Kimoyo beads (shown in Black Panther: Unconquered #1). Randomnerd1234 pointed this out to me already. While he doesn't wear that nanoweave currently, he is still in possession of it because he still has his Kimoyo beads (as of the Reign At Dusk storyline). So he still has access to his usual tech.

But because the nanoweave is a ceremonial garb, it seems he simply chooses not to wear it because he's not the King right now and wears the basic vibranium microweave to keep a low profile since he still operates in Wakanda.

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@beaconofstrength: no he can't. His best feats are suckerpunching Sentry to Earth's orbit and the watchers statement of him capable of destroying the moon with his punches. Unless you have any proof, it's just a blunt statement.

How do you sucker punch someone that was 1) already pummeling you, and 2) looking directly at you? You make it seem as if his back was turned when Blue Marvel hit him lol.

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Anyway, I think Blue Marvel takes him. Blue Marvel's individual strength feats, like nearly splitting the moon in half, lifting the Enterprise aircraft carrier, and carrying an asteroid the size of Arkansas are more quantifiable than Captain Atom's. Most of Captain Atom's strength best strength feats are:

  • statements (he was stated to be strong enough to move mountains in JLE, which on average, weighs about 260,000,000,000 tons, from what I've read). We never see Captain Atom actually do this on panel. Take it how you wanna take it.
  • unquantifiable (carried a large stone that was "the weight of his own pride" in Purgatory). How much does his pride weigh, exactly?
  • are based on power scaling (Mr. Majestic, Ultraa, Kylstar* etc). Ultraa, being an Almeracian like Maxima, should be more than enough to fight Kryptonians (if we assume his strength-level is anywhere around Maxima's, who has fought Superman and Doomsday).
  • His best showing is probably against Mr. Majestic, and while it's shown that Maj can move planets around, that doesn't mean that Captain Atom can do the same or is at least as strong as Maj. I will say that he's more than strong enough to fight someone at that strength level though (considering the fact that he KO'ed Maj in their first encounter). There's also the possibility that Maj was holding back some in that first encounter too, but it's debatable, since Maj did say that "he was going to send him back to where he came from in pieces." It could be argued that he was holding back because he underestimated Captain Atom at the time.
  • striking power (hit Firestorm so hard that it knocked both Ronnie and Martin out of the Firestorm Matrix).
  • *against Kylstar, it took the combined might of Captain Atom and Superman to beat him; he was briefly dominating both of them. Simultaneous punches from the both of them cracked his face, ending the fight.
  • he does, however, have consistent showings of durability against superpowered beings, though. I've already listed those in a separate post.

Even if we taking power-scaling into account, Blue Marvel has a better track record of that (Namor, Anti-Man, Sentry, King Hyperion, Ultimate Hulk) and actually outperforms Captain Atom when it comes to physical confrontations vs superpowered beings in his class. That said, Captain Atom isn't consistently shown to showcase his superhuman strength, in or out of battle. While Captain Atom struggled against the Justice League while holding back and was moreso defending himself, Blue Marvel knocked Sentry into orbit and briefly dominated the Avengers (Iron Man, Ms. Marvel, Ares, Wonder Man) until he was eventually brought down.

Captain Atom probably excels over Blue Marvel in terms of energy manipulation and such, but I don't think he does to point where Blue Marvel can't contend with him in that regard. Plus, Blue Marvel possesses genius-level intellect, and I believe it wouldn't take him long to figure out how Captain Atom's powers work or figure out how to get around them. There's also the possibility of Captain Atom quantum-jumping if he absorbs too much energy. Captain Atom has had this limitation exploited numerous times, especially against opponents that he's fought the first time, whom had no prior knowledge of his limitations. So there's no reason to think the same couldn't happen here.

EDIT: I forgot to mention how Captain Atom wore down Dr. Manhattan with energy blasts after everyone else couldn't faze him. It didn't put him down completely, though... Hmmm... I don't think it changes anything, however.

This is just my take on it though.

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@strike3 said:

CA's got a glass jaw vs strong types.

Actually, durability-wise, he holds up pretty well against strong types. A bloodlusted Power Girl couldn't even kill him, let alone KO him. A bloodlusted Apollo couldn't kill him, let alone KO him. Maul was hitting him with punches that had the mass of an aircraft carrier, and still, it hurt him but that was it. His "glass jaw" held up against Majestic also. It also took the whole Global Guardians (it had the Olympian and many other heavy-hitters) to beat him unconscious. There was his fight with Ultraa, who also couldn't KO him. Darkseid once backfisted him, it only knocked him off his feet. Orion also, but no KO. There's probably more I'm forgetting.

There are very few instances of him having a glass jaw, and almost all those instances are low showings.

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@atrocitus001 said:

Captain atom can manipulate the quantumverse, can manipulate and absorb energy and radiation and he's consistently with it. He's also fought high tier superheroes like superman and other members of the JL consistently.

The fights he had with Superman, not counting any out-of-continuity fights (JLU, Injustice, etc), kinda had some context. Bot of the fights they had were in Public Enemies. Superman dominated him only using his heat vision in the first fight. In the second fight, Captain Atom KO'ed Superman by channeling a quantum blast thru the Kryptonite ring that Earth-22 Superman gave to him. We have yet to see a straight-up fight between the both of them in mainstream continuity.

As for fighting members of the JL consistently, there are only a couple of examples. In Justice League America annual, Cap did defeat a version of the Justice League that had Shazam, Dr. Fate, Martian Manhunter, and the like, but that was an alternate reality version of the team. Then, there was the time he fought the JLA after his reappearance from his exploits as Monarch (Hal, Congorilla, Green Arrow, Dr. Light, the Atom, Cyborg, Green Arrow, Black Canary). He only brief held his own until, and wasn't trying to fight them seriously, until they dominated him.

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@static_shock: People hate Steven Seagal? And I think the hate for Iggy was crazy in a way.

I overexaggerated a lil bit lol

But nah. The hate for Steven comes mostly from martial arts fans (practitioners and martial arts film buffs as a whole). The hate Iggy gets comes mostly from hip-hop fans.

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