Sovereign Vance

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The ways in which Hercules is better than Thor:

 

1. Strength - Herc is stronger, but not by a lot.

2. Fighting skill - Herc is a better hand-to-hand fighter.  Thor even admitted this.

3. Durablity & Stamina - Hercules is a true immortal; he never ages/weakens with the passage of time.  Thor will/does.

4. Charm - Herc gets more chicks than anyone in the MU.  Including Thor.

 

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" @Vance Astro said:

" @Freefa11 said:

 Then again, this is Marvel we're talking about, where pretty much everybody who looks even remotely human has the exact same pressure points, so I guess she could probably beat him with those. "

Why wouldn't they? "

Why would an alien life form born over 10 billion years ago with vastly superhuman attributes have the exact same nervous system as we do? Moreover, why would beings vastly physically superior to a given opponent be affected by pressure points? It's not like a 3 year old can drop an adult just by poking them in the right spot. "

" Bendis is writing New Avengers and Avengers, Brubaker is writing Secret Avengers, I think. "

" @Vance Astro said:

I've never seen Thanos mindrape anyone he wasn't touching anyway. "

Kosmos. A being that would kill the entire race of kryptonians on a whim. "

" @-Unseen- said:

"@Blackguard: Surfer never used his speed properly against thanos as i've said before. He just blasted Thanos once then stood there and did nothing while a slower, weaker opponent beat him to death. When i said serious speedsters i meant those who were taking the fight seriously (like runner was and supergirl will) not being screwed by their writers and written out of character like surfer was. Also Thanos (again as i've said before) isn't so good against physcial attacks like what Thor, Drax, Gamora, thing, spiderman, Captian america, and starfox have dished out before and hurt him with. "

And you know this HOW EXACTLY???   So basically you are suggesting that whenever Surfer fights Thanos, Surfer decides NOT to use his speed.  Decides NOT TO USE ONE OF HIS PRIMARY ASSETS!!!      The Speed Blitz arguement is always rolled out by the DC Fandom be it for Superman, Wonder Woman, Cap Marvel, Martian Manhunter, Black Adam (in fact is there anyone in DC who doesn't have super speed).  Then when we mention a Marvel speedsters you guys respond with "oh they didnt use their speed in that scan"!!  Oh and by the way, Thanos does defeat the Runner in the end, thus proving our point that he would overcome Supergirls one key advantage over him. "

"  I'm loving Mighty Avengers as always, so how come Bendis has 2 avengers books and Slott gets none?  Also props to him because its been years since I didn't even remotely see the ending of a comic a mile away "

"@Sovereign Vance said:

"@dreadmaster said:

"@VIZION2010 said:

"Team 2 take this, having sentry , hulk, ms marvel , justice , and thor is just over kill. "

Nobody from team 1 can handle either of those dudes? "

Yes.Except Sentry and Thor.I think BRB would physically drain Thor.If he does beat him it will be just barely.They will need just aboout the whole team to stop Sentry though. "

Gladiator BRB and Super-Skrull should be enough to take him down.....Also due to the fact that they are the strongest one there. "

" @cscredle20 said:

"  (She can control the temperature of the environment, control all forms of precipitation, humidity and moisture (at a molecular level), generate lightning and other electromagnetic atmospheric phenomena, and has demonstrated excellent control over atmospheric pressure.) This is why it think she could remove the moisture from the environment, the reason I'm brought this up is because when he is dehydrated he is weak to the point that lightning could affect him. 
 

True but the only time I've seen Storm do anything like that was when she was breathing underwater.
I never seen her do that...and looking @ UR post count u look new..and in these debates U can't speculate u have to have scans or issue #'s or someting.
If I did it like u I could say that Storm could just make a giant wind burst and throw him in the upper atmosphere. She has never done this but it is a possiblity...
Do u get what I'm saying?

 
@cscredle20 said:

. And as for her wind speed 231 mph is the highest wind speed ever recorded that i found and i was under the impression that she couldn't exceed earths natural boundaries for things like wind speed. If there is a higher speed please post it. "

Well the fact that an F4 tornado is 260MPH kinda blows that out of the water. "she couldn't exceed earths natural boundaries for things like wind speed"    Storm has been known to generate winds that FAR exceed anything that has ever been recorded on Earth. for instance she held up a multi-story building or the time she held up the black bird(300 tons) while on fire.
 

 Well mayB u didnt read Storm enough? IDK but she has moved WAY beyond those limits. She has done stuff that could NEVER happen on Earth naturally.
 
@King of the Iron Fist said:

" @Son Of Storm said:

@Vance Astro said:

" @cscredle20 said:

" Are you talking about newbies? lol "

I'm talking about all these random storm fans popping up. "

were a plague Vance so u better get used to seeing us!! 
@cscredle20 said:

" okay, in a comparison of speed Namor comes in at 150 mph where storm can reach up to at least 231 mph, which is the highest i can find. "

Ok i dont know for Namor but Storm can reach speeds that FAR exceed 231mph. So IDK where UR looking??
 
 
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This battle is getting to long. Even if Namor can withstand lighting this is far from guaranteeing him victory. Storm can turn on and off a hurricane with a thought(yes it happened and its cannon and no I'm not taking about that scan of the less than conscious thought thing the hurricane I'm talking about is different.). So unless Namor somehow developed the ability to control wind or gravity he's gonna be either pinned to the ground(and because this is a beach which has sand I'm sure Storm would go the the skin scraping sandstorm) or he would be forced to go in the air where he would definitely loose. And please dont give me that "he's faster than her" because the only ppl I know that are faster than thought are flash and superman as well as other speedsters which Namor is not.
Now the ppl arguing for namor as well as his BIO say that his strength is enough to go head to head with the likes of Hulk. Good for him but he wont get the chance to use it. I'm not sure what @cscredle20 meant when he said that stuff about moister removal? please explain! @Vance Astro  Wouldn't that mean that Namor might be vulnerable to Storm's lightning. There is a BIG difference between Thor's lightning and Storm's. "

Namor doesn't have to be faster than a thought because Storm doesn't react as fast as she thinks. "

This argument and all the other 1's like this are getting OLD real fast. We dont know how far they are so U can say that Namor will just run up and punch her in the face. The woman can summon a f5(wind speed 318MPH) tornado in the blink of an eye.
 
 
 
Dude what part of the woman can turn on and off a HURRICANE with a thought dont u understand!...His speed and strength will mean NOTHING if he cant reach her. I would also like to point out that because they are on a beach I see Storm creating this MAJOR sandstorm that tears his skin off. So unless Namor doesnt need skin..... 
 
Storms powers work at the speed of thought. And please dont tell me that Namor is faster than thought ON LAND PLEASE>! "