"Superman Vs Thor"... and what Really went down

I know some people like to post half-assed scans that they claim being evidence of ANY kind of victory. So for instance this being one's evidence of Thor owning superman, or this of Superman owning Thor. In both cases, they were wrong. Thor caught superman by suprise in the first attack, and Superman overwhelmed thor because thor (as usual) underestimated his opponent. Aquaman and thor discuss this as the storyline continues ( here).  Superman and Thor even see themselves as their equals, too be seen on two occassions. As for Superman being able to lift Thor's hammer, people say he did this because he is worthy, or simply that he's strong enough. Here is the the truth, Thor gave it to him, knowing he was worthy of the moment. After the battle, we saw superman attempting to lift it again, but failing ( here).
 
After beating Thor, Superman admits that he may be the single most strongest opponent he ever faced ( here), and look how the avengers treat thor... sort of like the Justice League treat Superman eh? And last but not least, Superman admits beating him barely, it's a 50 / 50 thing. 
 
Hope you now see that these two are evenly matched, and that none of the two could easily beat the other. 
 
As for it being able to be used in battle threads or any other Superman Vs Thor material... Kurt Busiek says yes! Thing's like the Cosmic Egg that was created after the JLA / Avengers crossover still have been used in continuity. 

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Posted by Son Of The Northwind

Links are now fixed

Posted by Primmaster64

Thanx.

Posted by Son Of The Northwind

Welcome if it helped lol

Posted by Primmaster64

Yeah, but I would love too see Supes take on the Sentry.

Posted by Son Of The Northwind

Some say sentry was initally made to be Marvel's superman, marvel zombies was also initially ment to be a crossover in which issue a drawer drew superman but they had to recolour it to look like the sentry.
 

Posted by Primmaster64
@Son Of The Northwind: Yeah I heard about that...Well Sentry is Marvels Superman but Marvelman is coming soon too.
Posted by Son Of The Northwind

Maybe (just maybe) Marvelman... IS Sentry :O

Posted by Primmaster64
@Son Of The Northwind: NOOOOO!!!!I wanted the sentry too fight Marvelman too.
Posted by Son Of The Northwind

lol i was just kidding ^^

Posted by Primmaster64
@Son Of The Northwind: LOL I know...Hey seriously look at this

Posted by MichaeltheFly

Thanks for making this Void, Superman fans will go crazy after they see thread, thanks again for making it.

Posted by Primmaster64

lol

Posted by MichaeltheFly

Well it's true.

Posted by Primmaster64

Maybe...But I just want to see Sentry vs Supes.

Posted by GT-Man
@Son Of The Northwind said:
"I know some people like to post half-assed scans that they claim being evidence of ANY kind of victory. So for instance this being one's evidence of Thor owning superman, or this of Superman owning Thor. In both cases, they were wrong. Thor caught superman by suprise in the first attack, and Superman overwhelmed thor because thor (as usual) underestimated his opponent. Aquaman and thor discuss this as the storyline continues ( here).  Superman and Thor even see themselves as their equals, too be seen on two occassions. As for Superman being able to lift Thor's hammer, people say he did this because he is worthy, or simply that he's strong enough. Here is the the truth, Thor gave it to him, knowing he was worthy of the moment. After the battle, we saw superman attempting to lift it again, but failing ( here).
 
After beating Thor, Superman admits that he may be the single most strongest opponent he ever faced ( here), and look how the avengers treat thor... sort of like the Justice League treat Superman eh? And last but not least, Superman admits beating him barely, it's a 50 / 50 thing. 
 
Hope you now see that these two are evenly matched, and that none of the two could easily beat the other. 
 
As for it being able to be used in battle threads or any other Superman Vs Thor material... Kurt Busiek says yes! Thing's like the Cosmic Egg that was created after the JLA / Avengers crossover still have been used in continuity.  "

i agree
Posted by Son Of The Northwind

Thanks guys

Posted by babylinkz

I love you, i love this thread i love everything said in it, ( im crying as i write this lol ) i hate superman fanboys, i hope  they die a slow death.......in this fourm of course, not real life..........that would make me a murder......
Posted by Sun King

FINALLY, someone's told the full story.  KUDOS Sir!

Posted by tensor
@Son Of The Northwind: after beating thor he did not say strongest opponent ever face he said toughest opponent there is a difference
Posted by babylinkz
@tensor:

oh god here they come, supermans fandoys to the rescue
Posted by D3athstroke
@Son Of The Northwind said:
" I know some people like to post half-assed scans that they claim being evidence of ANY kind of victory. So for instance this being one's evidence of Thor owning superman, or this of Superman owning Thor. In both cases, they were wrong. Thor caught superman by suprise in the first attack, and Superman overwhelmed thor because thor (as usual) underestimated his opponent. Aquaman and thor discuss this as the storyline continues ( here).  Superman and Thor even see themselves as their equals, too be seen on two occassions. As for Superman being able to lift Thor's hammer, people say he did this because he is worthy, or simply that he's strong enough. Here is the the truth, Thor gave it to him, knowing he was worthy of the moment. After the battle, we saw superman attempting to lift it again, but failing ( here).
 
After beating Thor, Superman admits that he may be the single most strongest opponent he ever faced ( here), and look how the avengers treat thor... sort of like the Justice League treat Superman eh? And last but not least, Superman admits beating him barely, it's a 50 / 50 thing. 
 
Hope you now see that these two are evenly matched, and that none of the two could easily beat the other. 
 
As for it being able to be used in battle threads or any other Superman Vs Thor material... Kurt Busiek says yes! Thing's like the Cosmic Egg that was created after the JLA / Avengers crossover still have been used in continuity.  "

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Posted by Darkchild

Wow only two pages wowowowowow im surprised

Posted by Son Of The Northwind
@tensor: yea well, whatever he said in the picture i posted. Will not argue with it just couldn't recall that. Being the toughest Opponent still is very formidable no?
Posted by Son Of The Northwind
@babylinkz: LOL welcome
 
@Sun King:
thanks
Posted by TheJuggernautpunch

I still see Superman as Thor's superior .

Posted by Son Of The Northwind

don't see a problem in that, it's your opinion and I'm not trying to force others unto you.

Posted by Primmaster64

hmmm...

Posted by Captain Norway

I loved the scene after supes defeat him. 
 
 Hercules gets so pissed he hits superman so hard his golden adamantium mace cracks!

Posted by Lance Uppercut

While I'm sure much work went in to C&Ping this, the JLA/Avengers crossover hasn't been canon in a long time. It's just like the crossover where the brothers fused Marvel and DC, etc. etc. Most of the battles in it were voted on by fans, and those that weren't aren't much more valid. Things that happen and DC and Things that happen in Marvel don't influence each other. Technically, they don't even have the same omniverse. Otherwise MJJ would be a threat to all of DC, and everyone will tell you that it's simply not the case. However, the effort is once again applauded.

Posted by Static Shock

I take the Superman/Thor battle with a grain of salt, anyway. It's only canon to DC, and not to Marvel.

Posted by ThanosIsMad
@Lance Uppercut said:
" While I'm sure much work went in to C&Ping this, the JLA/Avengers crossover hasn't been canon in a long time. It's just like the crossover where the brothers fused Marvel and DC, etc. etc. Most of the battles in it were voted on by fans, and those that weren't aren't much more valid. Things that happen and DC and Things that happen in Marvel don't influence each other. Technically, they don't even have the same omniverse. Otherwise MJJ would be a threat to all of DC, and everyone will tell you that it's simply not the case. However, the effort is once again applauded. "
It was followed up in the Trinity maxi-series.  So yeah, it has been canon recently.
 
 
 
 
Anyway, it's pretty safe to say that Superman is stronger than Thor, but the difference is marginal, like the strength difference between Supes and Wonder Woman or Captain Marvel.
Edited by xan84


So Thor was holding back ? Well gues what Superman always holds back ... Thor is not and will never be anywhere close (especially curent Sups, SA Sups is a stomp) to Superman level.

 

Thor fans can keep on saying how Thor and Sups are evenly matched but they are not even close.

 

 

Strength - Sups by a large margine. He can move the Earth (with GL providing the harness) 
Speed  - Sups by far. 
Durability  - Sups can survive a damned Supernova or planets blowing up. Thor is not even close. 
fighting skills- Normaly i would go with a Norse God that has thousands  of years of battles but how marvels shows Thor fighting i have to give it to Sups. Expesialy with those 1000 years of valhala. Just look at Thor fighting Hulk in h2h over and over again ...  
Superman and Zod fighting where shattering the planet with the shockwaves created by there punches. 
Superman can vibrate so fast that DD punches go right trough him. 
A list of Sups high end feats is just to long. 
 
Superman beats the creap out of Thor anywhere and anytime. Superman can just fly right up (in space he goes abot 17x the speed of ligh) get a sun dip and then 1 shot Thor to pieces.

Posted by Lance Uppercut
@ThanosIsMad: Not cannon in marvel.
Posted by Captain Norway
@Xan:  And Thor could just fry the entire planet with his MAGICAL lighting. 
 
But you are obviously a Thor hater so i do not see any point in debating.
Edited by Static Shock
@Captain Norway said:

" @Xan:  And Thor could just fry the entire planet with his MAGICAL lighting. 

When has Thor done that or anything remotely close?
Posted by The Mjolnir Wielder
@TheJuggernautpunch said:
"I still see Superman as Thor's superior ."

Agreed
Posted by Waffle Fries

Thor has never shown feats even close to Supe's.

Posted by OblivionKnight

I must say thanks for posting this.Many people seemed to have been confused with what happened and what was said in that scene. But personallyI do find Superman to be superior in Thor in a couple of ways. But thats my opinion though.Not fact.
Posted by Son Of The Northwind

And no one should argue with that because of it. 
 
DC is the company that notably recognized it as canon, but they behold characters of the other company. 
 

Posted by xan84
@Captain Norway said:

" @Xan:  And Thor could just fry the entire planet with his MAGICAL lighting.   But you are obviously a Thor hater so i do not see any point in debating. "


This guy has to be joking ... 
Also i am not a Thor hater i actualy love the caracter. But the fact is Sups is superior to him in mostly everything. You are not going to see me trying to make a case for Sups in a fight with SS. But someone who is close to Hulk in strength, durability and speed has no way to fight Sups.
Posted by Son Of The Northwind

Did you read what thor and supes said in the Scans i posted? It's been acknowledged, there is no buts and if's. It can go either way.

Posted by xan84
@Son Of The Northwind said:
"Did you read what thor and supes said in the Scans i posted? It's been acknowledged, there is no buts and if's. It can go either way."

I don't care what they said in a crossover i care for there feats and curent Superman would win. Can you post a scan of Thor taking something close to a Supernova ? or moving a planet ? Thor fights on even ground with Hulk, Sups would 1 shoot hulk and he would do the same to Thor if he would give it all his got.
Posted by warlock360

If your going after feats then ok.

Posted by Primmaster64


Posted by Captain Norway
@Static Shock:  He never done it, but he is the god of thunder, so I'm pretty damn sure he can do it globally.
Posted by Static Shock
@Captain Norway said:
" @Static Shock:  He never done it, but he is the god of thunder, so I'm pretty damn sure he can do it globally. "
He has, even though it strained him. It was in Thor #6 of his current volume. Someone looked it up for me. So, you were right.
Posted by Neon_Nemesis
@Son Of The Northwind said:
" Did you read what thor and supes said in the Scans i posted? It's been acknowledged, there is no buts and if's. It can go either way. "
Not really, the only advantage Thor has is magic, he's outclassed physically and that gives Superman a huge advantage
Supes would defeat Thor at least 7/10 times
Posted by Captain Norway
@Xan:  Just look him up at the Marvel wiki, it sums it up nicely. I mean he withstood a blast from TOAA (celestial obviously)
 
 
 

Posted by Neon_Nemesis
@Son Of The Northwind said:
" I know some people like to post half-assed scans that they claim being evidence of ANY kind of victory. So for instance this being one's evidence of Thor owning superman, or this of Superman owning Thor. In both cases, they were wrong. Thor caught superman by suprise in the first attack, and Superman overwhelmed thor because thor (as usual) underestimated his opponent. Aquaman and thor discuss this as the storyline continues ( here).  Superman and Thor even see themselves as their equals, too be seen on two occassions. As for Superman being able to lift Thor's hammer, people say he did this because he is worthy, or simply that he's strong enough. Here is the the truth, Thor gave it to him, knowing he was worthy of the moment. After the battle, we saw superman attempting to lift it again, but failing ( here).
 
After beating Thor, Superman admits that he may be the single most strongest opponent he ever faced ( here), and look how the avengers treat thor... sort of like the Justice League treat Superman eh? And last but not least, Superman admits beating him barely, it's a 50 / 50 thing. 
 
Hope you now see that these two are evenly matched, and that none of the two could easily beat the other. 
 
As for it being able to be used in battle threads or any other Superman Vs Thor material... Kurt Busiek says yes! Thing's like the Cosmic Egg that was created after the JLA / Avengers crossover still have been used in continuity.  "
Superman holds back as well, if anything Superman holds back more since Thor has killed his enemies before. 
 
Superman saying Thor was the toughest opponent he had ever fought was pure modesty, Superman has tangled with Doomsday, Darkseid, Captain Marvel, Black Adam, Bizzaro, Despero, General Zod, and Mongul are all stronger and tougher then Thor is, 2 of them have superior magic based abilities as well. 
Posted by Captain Norway
@Static Shock:  I just took a shot in the dark.